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It appears that they came up with their official excuse for allowing the second nurse to fly. They are claiming that protocol states that Ebola healthcare providers are under no travel restrictions if they wear "appropriate personal protective equipment". These guys are shameless in their CYA.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
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that worked sooo well for the 260+ PPE clad healthcare workers that died in africa....
Our CDC director doesn't know too much, eh?
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
EPA and DoT regulations F things again! whoo hooo!
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
If you take into account the details of what transpired, it's clear this wasn't just a case of air sickness or your typical flu. The guy was a foreigner "of African decent", couldn't speak English, sweating profusely, and so warm that the passenger next to him could "almost"(whatever that means) feel heat radiating from him. AND, he was uncooperative. Which we're gonna see a lot more of, in the coming weeks. Especially if they ban flights from that region of Africa. Desperate people are already trying to get here. They're gonna take ibuprofen, commute to another country first, then fly in - all while trying to mask their symptoms.
“Do you not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?” - Oxenstiern
Violence will not save us. Let us love one another, for love is from God.
There is not much that can be done about this, but it is a concern. When Ebola moves to a cold, dry environment, there is the possibility that it will become far more contagious. Flip a coin.
The only thing that can be done is travel restrictions from hot-zones to prevent Ebola from migrating (any more).
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
Yes, low level minions that are compartmentalized and clueless. But the heads of agencies, especially the CDC--this is an act. Anyone with a lick of common sense could figure out stopping flights from countries that have these outbreaks and securing our boards would stop any further spread of disease.
A friend of mine lives in England and this is the hoops they have to go through to get a visa:
Look What You HAVE to go for a GREEN CARD
Form I-693
http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/f...form/i-693.pdf
Tests for Tuberculosis, Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, Leprosy, etc ...
Oh and VACCINATION RECORDS !!! Your records must be up-to-date.
H/T: EG
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
The only way to confirm that story is to demand to know what happened to that passenger, and find out if that plane was ever cleaned properly, and apparently, Delta is not forthcoming with the information. So you have to ask yourself, why are they being tight lipped about it?
'This is not a situation like the flu where the risks of a rapid spread of the disease are imminent.' - Obama
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3GKe8hjyk
aerosol transmission is thought to be possible and may occur in conditions of lower temperature and humidity which may not have been factors in outbreaks in warmer climates [13]. At the very least, the potential exists for aerosol transmission, given that virus is detected in bodily secretions, the pulmonary alveolar interstitial cells, and within lung spaces [14].
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Filoviruses cause severe hemorrhagic fever in humans and non-human primates (NHP),
causing epidemics at times involving hundreds of people. Filoviruses, which are classified as Category
A Bioterrorism Agents by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (Atlanta, GA), have stability
in aerosol form comparable to other lipid containing virusessuch as influenza A
Viruses 2012, 4, 2115-2136; doi:10.3390/v4102115
ISSN 1999-4915
www.mdpi.com/journal/viruses
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997182/The potential of aerogenic infection by Ebola virus was established by using a head-only exposure aerosol system. Virus-containing droplets of 0.8-1.2 microns were generated and administered into the respiratory tract of rhesus monkeys via inhalation. Inhalation of viral doses as low as 400 plaque-forming units of virus caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997182/In summary, the pathogenesis we propose for aerosol EBOV infection in rhesus, based on the results of the current study, is as follows: initial infection occurs in the respiratory lymphoid tissues
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...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...
pretty good hour 2 and 3.
C-SPAN is going to re-broadcast in a few minutes and again at 9pm EST tonight.
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Rand Paul: Ebola is "not like AIDS"
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/16/politi...ids/index.html
"[The Obama administration] has downplayed how transmissible it is," Paul said in an interview with CNN on Thursday morning. "They say it's the exchange of bodily of fluids. Which makes people think, 'Oh, it's like AIDS. It's very difficult to catch.'"
"If someone has Ebola at a cocktail party they're contagious and you can catch it from them," Paul continued. "[The administration] should be honest about that."
"They say all it takes is direct contact to get this," he said. "If you listen carefully, they say being three feet from someone is direct contact. That's not what most Americans think is direct contact.
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It may not be airborne, yet, but - for a disease to be spread through sweat and body fluids displaced through sneezes and coughs - that's enough to cause serious concern. Given the mortality rate, the level of contagion, methods of transmission, and how long the virus can live on hard surfaces, I don't think anyone can be considered overreacting!
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The CDC is understating the threat of Ebola because of trade and travel concerns. Well, to put it bluntly, if they don't start implementing some common sense precautions there is going to be no economy whatsoever. So they have a choice. A damaged economy or no economy in the long run.
Ebola's transmission methods are much worse than the authorities have let on. See this.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-h...-ebola-2014-10
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