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  1. #361
    The UK is offering to provide 700 new beds but these won't be ready for weeks.Concrete Canvas can provide the buildings,however: http://www.concretecanvas.com/



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  3. #362
    Quote Originally Posted by orenbus View Post
    I think the guy in the Vice Video (video journalist) is the same guy that worked with NBC that contracted Ebola and is being flown to US for treatment.

    https://news.vice.com/article/he-wan...sed-with-ebola
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  4. #363
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    This says he has NOT been cleared as ebola-free, according to port authority.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...oms-Ebola.html



    We better pray he doesn't have it. 260 people on that plane.
    He was cleared at the hospital, which is when they allowed the passengers on board the flight to leave; that is what has been communicated to me, at least.

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  5. #364
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirvikalpa View Post
    He was cleared at the hospital, which is when they allowed the passengers on board the flight to leave; that is what has been communicated to me, at least.
    That's what I read.

    United issued this statement: "Upon arrival at Newark Airport from Brussels, medical professionals instructed that customers and crew of United flight 998 remain on board until they could assist an ill customer. We are working with authorities and will accommodate our customers as quickly as we can."

    Friends and relatives of the passengers told Fox 5 News that the passengers were taken off of the plane and taken to an isolated area at the airport.

    Passengers complained of disorganization and chaos when they were put into isolation for four hours. They say they were given notices about possible exposure to Ebola but told not to worry because the passenger had tested negative to the illness.
    http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/26...newark-airport
    And the inmate in Ga tested negative too.

    Two tests confirm Cobb inmate does not have Ebola

    The Cobb County Sheriff's Office tells the public how they dealt with an Ebola virus scare within the jail's walls.

    A state lab test and a CDC lab test both confirmed that Harry Randall Withers does not have the Ebola virus.
    ..
    http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/26...il-ebola-scare

  6. #365
    Just thinking "out loud" here but I'm starting to wonder if this Ebola stuff is basically the same as 'ISIS'. An excuse to instill fear in order to provide a cover story for more military intervention overseas. Thousands of troops and nearly a billion dollars already promised to help "combat" ISIS....errrr Ebola.
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  7. #366
    Sending the Army to go fight ebola....
    Last edited by GunnyFreedom; 10-05-2014 at 12:51 AM.

  8. #367
    When the UK says it is providing 700 beds but it will take weeks,I assume they mean the physical beds.If you have Ebola and are situated with other victims,what difference does it make if you lay on a blanket on the floor? What is the requirement for a bed? If there is some efficacy for treatment provided by raising the patient off the floor,why not hammocks?

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  11. #369
    Quote Originally Posted by S.Shorland View Post
    3,000? have died and with a 90% mortality rate in Africa,there are 300 or so survivors? Pay them 5x (or 50x) the average wage to distribute food,bedding and to burn waste for those who quarantine at home?
    Your mortality rate is way high. Anyway, I was thinking of something very similar. People go out so they can earn money so they can eat, though also for school, socialization, etc. The average pay in Liberia is $2 a day, however, in the slums where the biggest problem is, it's 2 cents a day. so lets say 3 cents a day pay (with no expenses) and 3 cents a day food. That means you could pay a person to stay home for a month and feed them for $2 a person - for the whole month! The worst hit slum in Liberia is West Point with a population of 75,000 so it would cost $150,000 to hire the entire slum to stay home for a month. Lets hire them! Even paying them $2 a day would be cheap, considering the current budget to deal with this is 1.3 Billion and it has a 14 month predicted run. Yes, hire the survivors to deliver food boxes once or twice a week and donate blood regularly as that's the most effective medicine (anti-bodies) we have right now. That's what ZMAPP is, except ZMAPP isn't going to be available till Mid-December.

    More expensive, but also more effective would be buying a ton of OLPC laptops ($100-200ea) and adding a temperature sensor. That opens up distance learning so the kids could go to school. It opens up reporting and response the day anyone gets a fever. It forms a MeSH net so would be like putting a VoIP video phone in every house (lets say 7.5 people per household to make the math easy) and tied into a internet pipe opens up telemedicine with medical volunteers located anywhere in the world. It also opens up entertainment cuz staying in for a month is going to get boring quick (though it's only a 7" screen)











    thoughts?

    -t
    Last edited by tangent4ronpaul; 10-05-2014 at 06:20 AM.

  12. #370
    Quote Originally Posted by S.Shorland View Post
    When the UK says it is providing 700 beds but it will take weeks,I assume they mean the physical beds.If you have Ebola and are situated with other victims,what difference does it make if you lay on a blanket on the floor? What is the requirement for a bed? If there is some efficacy for treatment provided by raising the patient off the floor,why not hammocks?
    I'm assuming it creates separation - as I'd imagine some of these patients would be "assumed to have" ebola and in the testing phase for it, and they'd be around those who already have confirmed ebola. If someone is just laying on a blanket on the floor, next to another person who's on another blanket on the floor with the more advanced state of disease, soiled linens (from sweat, diarrhea, blood) can come in contact with open wounds, the eyes, nose, mouth, etc and transfer.

    Medical beds can quickly (but thoroughly) wiped with bleach.

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  13. #371
    Ebola hates us for our freedoms.


    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Sending the Army to go fight ebola....

  14. #372
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirvikalpa View Post
    I'm assuming it creates separation - as I'd imagine some of these patients would be "assumed to have" ebola and in the testing phase for it, and they'd be around those who already have confirmed ebola. If someone is just laying on a blanket on the floor, next to another person who's on another blanket on the floor with the more advanced state of disease, soiled linens (from sweat, diarrhea, blood) can come in contact with open wounds, the eyes, nose, mouth, etc and transfer.

    Medical beds can quickly (but thoroughly) wiped with bleach.
    You know those inflatable swimming pool things... kinda bunk bed sized but smaller... It's fall and Walmart, CVS, etc is going to be ditching them at cost just to free up shelf space.. easily sterilized.. Now bleach... Have you priced HTH recently - OUCH!

    -t

  15. #373
    If someone is just laying on a blanket on the floor, next to another person who's on another blanket on the floor with the more advanced state of disease
    Separate pt's symptomatically? or by time in ward? They are not doing this in a fine grain way. Better isolation via plastic sheets on frames?

    -t

  16. #374
    There will be a CDC briefing about Ebola on C-SPAN at noon EST today.

    -t

  17. #375
    Quote Originally Posted by S.Shorland View Post
    I assume they mean the physical beds.If you have Ebola and are situated with other victims,what difference does it make if you lay on a blanket on the floor? What is the requirement for a bed?
    "Bed" in this sense does not just mean a place to sleep off the ground; its an isolated room with basic triage and sanitation provisions.


    Kind of like when you stay at a "bed and breakfast"... you get a toilet and shower too.

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  18. #376
    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    There will be a CDC briefing about Ebola on C-SPAN at noon EST today.-t
    Only this Administration could send out someone to relate this information and not have the fecal matter hit the fan.

    Texas Ebola patient not receiving experimental medication

    So the black guy doesn't get the medicine because it could possibly make his Ebola worse but the white medical professionals get it because they had nothing to lose?

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  20. #377
    Quote Originally Posted by S.Shorland View Post
    When the UK says it is providing 700 beds but it will take weeks,I assume they mean the physical beds.If you have Ebola and are situated with other victims,what difference does it make if you lay on a blanket on the floor? What is the requirement for a bed? If there is some efficacy for treatment provided by raising the patient off the floor,why not hammocks?
    Dude, if we got so many sick we are stacking them on the floor, then it's time to head to Colorado with Mother Abagail.

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  22. #379
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Last night over dinner the wife told me she thought she was coming down with a cold. Fearing ebola, I slipped a couple Xanax into her wine. After she passed out I dragged her downstairs and chained her to the support beam. I gave her an air mattress, 3 weeks of rations and 2 buckets. She's been down their screaming something all morning -- I can't make it out though but probably death cries, so I guess I assumed right and she's got ebola. Sucks to have to quarantine her like that; but gotta save the rest of the family, ya know?
    I think I saw the group of men who gave it to her, if you are interested...
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  23. #380
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I think I saw the group of men who gave it to her, if you are interested...
    First things first, I saw the cat barfing this morning... Can cats get ebola? Maybe I should toss it down the stairs and shut the door as well.

  24. #381
    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Sending the Army to go fight ebola....
    Obama’s “War on Ebola” or War for Oil? Sending 3000 Troops to African “Ebola” Areas that Happen to Export Oil to China
    http://www.wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.6119

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  25. #382
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    Obama’s “War on Ebola” or War for Oil? Sending 3000 Troops to African “Ebola” Areas that Happen to Export Oil to China
    http://www.wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.6119

    What an amazing coincidence.
    How convenient...


  26. #383
    walk those suspected of exposure to Ebola into the nearest natural active volcano autoclave for at least 30 minutes.

  27. #384
    My brother is in the 101st, spoke with him yesterday he's saying around 1k troops from Campbell are headed to Africa at the end of the month, that includes members of his unit. This is in addition to 3k troops from other installations around the country that are heading out to Africa as well, there is a good chance these numbers will increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Dude, if we got so many sick we are stacking them on the floor, then it's time to head to Colorado with Mother Abagail.
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  30. #386
    Sierra Leone records 121 Ebola deaths in a single day

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0HU0ZT20141005

    5 October 2014

    (Reuters) - Sierra Leone recorded 121 deaths from Ebola and scores of new infections in one of the single deadliest days since the disease appeared in the West African country more than four months ago, government health statistics showed on Sunday.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 10-05-2014 at 07:54 PM.

  31. #387
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Sierra Leone records 121 Ebola deaths in a single day

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0HU0ZT20141005

    (Reuters) - Sierra Leone recorded 121 deaths from Ebola and scores of new infections in one of the single deadliest days since the disease appeared in the West African country more than four months ago, government health statistics showed on Sunday.
    Time to stop your R & R at that port.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Sierra Leone records 121 Ebola deaths in a single day

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0HU0ZT20141005

    (Reuters) - Sierra Leone recorded 121 deaths from Ebola and scores of new infections in one of the single deadliest days since the disease appeared in the West African country more than four months ago, government health statistics showed on Sunday.
    Why there needs to be border security and a ban on travel from affected regions of sickness. A handful of cases should be able to be contained, while hundreds or thousands of cases mean an epidemic here as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orenbus View Post
    Spent an hour searching for the scene where Nadine said something about "going to hell" as the elevator door closed. Couldn't find it though...

  34. #390
    Quote Originally Posted by seapilot View Post
    I think the guy in the Vice Video (video journalist) is the same guy that worked with NBC that contracted Ebola and is being flown to US for treatment.

    https://news.vice.com/article/he-wan...sed-with-ebola
    That would be very interesting. Could mean he actually did catch it while filming at close range or that he's not just filming the propaganda but also 'living' it.
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