Chelsea Manning Threatens to Cut "Her" Balls Off

[presence]

https://wikileaks.org/Bradley-Manning-Trial-FAQ.html

Chelsea Manning has filed a lawsuit against the United States Defense Department and the Department of the Army for denying her medical care for her gender dysphoria. It seeks a preliminary injunction requiring the Pentagon to provide “clinically appropriate treatment.”


While deployed as an intelligence analyst in Iraq, Manning provided WikiLeaks with around a half million classified documents, which exposed details of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, including war crimes like torture and summary executions. She is currently serving a 35-year prison sentence at Fort Leavenworth after being convicted of Espionage Act violations and other offenses on July 30, 2013.


She has spent more than a year trying to convince the Pentagon to provide her access to hormone therapy, but they have ignored her requests or insisted on denying her access to treatment—an alleged violation of her Eighth Amendment rights under the US Constitution.


The lawsuit [PDF] accuses the Pentagon of prohibiting her “from expressing her female gender by growing her hair and otherwise following female grooming standards.” It

says she is “experiencing escalating distress and is

at serious risk of severe and imminent harm, including

resorting to self-surgery (

auto-castration) or suicide, because this medically necessary treatment is being withheld.”

http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/201...der-dysphoria/

[Working Poor]

Manning needs therapy to accept self the way they are...

[Carlybee]

To each his/her own but I don't think that's a reason for litigation

[dannno]

Maybe he is doing it for continued press so people don't forget about him and just let him rot in prison, like almost all would otherwise.

[Christian Liberty]

To each his/her own but I don't think that's a reason for litigation

While you are correct, the fact that he is in prison at all is a reason for litigation. He's a hero.

[cajuncocoa]

Why does no one consider the possibility that he/she had been given psych drugs to drive him/her crazy?

[Christian Liberty]

Why does no one consider the possibility that he/she had been given psych drugs to drive him/her crazy?

This is very likely the case

[specsaregood]

Why does no one consider the possibility that he/she had been given psych drugs to drive him/her crazy?

That'd be a hell of a threat to prevent future whistleblowers: if you leak information and get caught; we'll give you drugs to make you crazy enough to want to cut your own balls off.

[enhanced_deficit]

Maybe he is doing it for continued press so people don't forget about him and just let him rot in prison, like almost all would otherwise.

This.

This would put LGBT movement behind Obama in a fix.





Obama proclaims June LGBT Pride Month

By Justin Snow on May 30, 2014


Photo: Barack Obama. Credit: Official White House Photo by Pete Souza.

President Barack Obama declared June Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month in a proclamation released by the White House Friday and called on Americans to recommit themselves to finishing the work that remains for achieving full equality.

http://www.metroweekly.com/2014/05/o...t-pride-month/

[RonPaulFanInGA]

It's really insulting to real women that the media keeps referring to Bradley Manning with feminine pronouns. In what way, shape or form is Manning a woman? Just because he says he "identifies" as one? I wasn't aware that was how the two sexes worked.

Chelsea Manning Sues Pentagon for Denying Her ‘Urgently-Needed’ Medical Care for Gender Dysphoria

Urgent? Why should taxpayers foot the bill for this? Prisoners shouldn't get cosmetic surgeries on our dime. This is about as "urgently-needed" as another prisoner's rhytidectomy.

Firedoglake also keeps calling Manning "her". This is a site that referred to itself as part of the "reality-based community" during the Bush years. Calling a man with a Y chromosome and a penis dangling between his legs "her" and "she" for no reason other than he wants to be referred to as such? Some "reality".

[Christian Liberty]

It's really insulting to real women that the media keeps referring to Bradley Manning with feminine pronouns. In what way, shape or form is Manning a woman? Just because he says he "identifies" as one? I wasn't aware that was how the two sexes worked.



Urgent? Why should taxpayers foot the bill for this? Prisoners shouldn't get cosmetic surgeries on our dime. This is about as "urgently-needed" as another prisoner's rhytidectomy.

Firedoglake also keeps calling Manning as "her". This is a site that referred to itself as part of the "reality-based community" during the Bush years. Calling a man with a Y chromosome and a penis dangling between his legs "her" and "she" for no reason other than he wants to be referred to as such? Some "reality".

I refer to Manning as he deliberately. I feel for him because I knew someone who was transgendered and I know its not easy for them. At the same time, if God created you a male, that's still exactly what you are.

I think Manning's actions were heroic. But he's still a man.

[Matt Collins]

This guy is really messed up in the head

[GunnyFreedom]

Why does no one consider the possibility that he/she had been given psych drugs to drive him/her crazy?

This has been my thought all along, frankly.

[KCIndy]

There's absolutely no doubt Manning was severely abused in captivity. It may still be going on, for all I know.

There are a wide variety of articles from numerous credible publications detailing the harsh treatment he received. Just do a search for "treatment of Bradley Manning" and see what comes up.

Solitary confinement. Forced nudity. Constant bullying and threats. Held in irons anytime outside the cell. For years. It would be enough to drive anyone insane.

Here's an excerpt from a 2012 article from Wired.com that gives just a few of the sickening details:

http://www.wired.com/2012/08/general...ail-treatment/

Manning’s treatment during his detention was the subject of intense criticism. The ACLU called his treatment “gratuitously harsh” in a letter sent to U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates. And former State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley was forced to resign after publicly calling Manning’s treatment at Quantico “counterproductive and stupid.”

Manning, 23, was arrested in May 2010 in Iraq after telling a former hacker that he had leaked vast amounts of classified material to the secret-spilling site WikiLeaks. He was subsequently transferred to Kuwait, where he was detained for about two months before being moved to the Quantcico brig.

For most of his time at the brig, Manning was held in highly restrictive pretrial confinement. Designated a maximum-custody detainee under prevention-of-injury watch, or POI, he was confined to his cell for all but an hour a day, and has a number of other restrictions placed on him. At one point his clothes were taken away, and he was forced to sleep naked.

The brig maintained that Manning’s treatment was consistent with other prisoners placed under POI watch. But Manning’s attorney filed protests alleging mistreatment and indicating there was no legitimate reason for his client to be under protective watch.

“Manning was awoken at 0500 hours and required to remain awake in his cell from 0500 to 2200 hours,” Coombs claims in the latest motion, and says Manning “was not permitted to lie down on his rack during the duty day. Nor was Manning permitted to lean his back against the cell wall; he had to sit upright on his rack without any back support”.

He was also allowed only 20 minutes of “sunshine call” and was given no more than five minutes in the shower. When he was allowed out of his cell, his arms and legs were bound in metal shackles, preventing him from getting sufficient exercise. He was also given only a pair of running shoes that had no laces so that when he tried to walk in them, while shackled, the shoes fell off his feet, Coombs writes.

Manning was also forced to remove his clothes for an inspection after he protested his treatment.

“It is well established that forced nudity is a classic humiliation technique. The only permissible inference is that the Brig intended to punish Manning by subjecting him to humiliating treatment because Manning correctly pointed out the absurdity of his POI status,” Coombs asserts.

[jmdrake]

I refer to Manning as he deliberately. I feel for him because I knew someone who was transgendered and I know its not easy for them. At the same time, if God created you a male, that's still exactly what you are.

I think Manning's actions were heroic. But he's still a man.

Exactly. He/she is a hero.

[jmdrake]

There's absolutely no doubt Manning was severely abused in captivity. It may still be going on, for all I know.

There are a wide variety of articles from numerous credible publications detailing the harsh treatment he received. Just do a search for "treatment of Bradley Manning" and see what comes up.

Solitary confinement. Forced nudity. Constant bullying and threats. Held in irons anytime outside the cell. For years. It would be enough to drive anyone insane.

Here's an excerpt from a 2012 article from Wired.com that gives just a few of the sickening details:

http://www.wired.com/2012/08/general...ail-treatment/

And people wonder why Edward Snowden doesn't come home?

[Christian Liberty]

There's absolutely no doubt Manning was severely abused in captivity. It may still be going on, for all I know.

There are a wide variety of articles from numerous credible publications detailing the harsh treatment he received. Just do a search for "treatment of Bradley Manning" and see what comes up.

Solitary confinement. Forced nudity. Constant bullying and threats. Held in irons anytime outside the cell. For years. It would be enough to drive anyone insane.

Here's an excerpt from a 2012 article from Wired.com that gives just a few of the sickening details:

http://www.wired.com/2012/08/general...ail-treatment/

That's just awful. I wish I could remember all of these stories in all of my political debates. The US government is truly messed up.

[liberty2897]

While you are correct, the fact that he is in prison at all is a reason for litigation. He's a hero.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A $#@!ING HERO. If HE wants to be a SHE, then so be it.. not my place to say. It is totally irrelevant , but the FACT still remains that this wonderful person put their $#@!ing life on the line to expose a completely corrupt system. If you (RP forum) can't get behind that, then I'm in the wrong place.

[Christian Liberty]

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A $#@!ING HERO. If HE wants to be a SHE, then so be it.. not my place to say. It is totally irrelevant , but the FACT still remains that this wonderful person put their $#@!ing life on the line to expose a completely corrupt system. If you (RP forum) can't get behind that, then I'm in the wrong place.

I honestly have to wonder if the government is making the transgender bit up to make soc cons less sympathetic. It won't work on me, despite my VERY strong opposition to transgenderism.

[jmdrake]

I honestly have to wonder if the government is making the transgender bit up to make soc cons less sympathetic. It won't work on me, despite my VERY strong opposition to transgenderism.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to FreedomFanatic again.

[liberty2897]

I honestly have to wonder if the government is making the transgender bit up to make soc cons less sympathetic. It won't work on me, despite my VERY strong opposition to transgenderism.

I am curious what your reasoning is for "VERY strong opposition to transgenderism". I don't really understand it myself, so maybe you can enlighten me some? I have people who work for me who reportedly fit this category, so I would like to be enlightened if you you have something informational.

[Dr.3D]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to FreedomFanatic again.

I've got ya covered.

[presence]

I am curious what your reasoning is for "VERY strong opposition to transgenderism". I don't really understand it myself

Mom I'm almost done with my BPA sippy, I need a triclosan wipe to clean my hands, before I go out and play in the atrozine lawn.

[amy31416]

I am curious what your reasoning is for "VERY strong opposition to transgenderism". I don't really understand it myself, so maybe you can enlighten me some? I have people who work for me who reportedly fit this category, so I would like to be enlightened if you you have something informational.

Live and let live. I don't care that Manning considers himself transgendered, nor do I care that these fellows are opposed to it--so long as neither party doesn't harm others.

Everyone is entitled to live their lives as they please.

[liberty2897]

in reply to presence
So, I take it that you have all the physics and life surrounding you figured out. I claim no such thing. If humans want to re-shape themselves into something non-traditional, I have no problem with that. I'm pretty sure that Bradley Manning, like it or not, is going to have more of an impact on the universe than you are.

[Dr.3D]

At a boy.... you can be anything you want to be.

[Christian Liberty]

I am curious what your reasoning is for "VERY strong opposition to transgenderism". I don't really understand it myself, so maybe you can enlighten me some? I have people who work for me who reportedly fit this category, so I would like to be enlightened if you you have something informational.

Theological reasoning: God created men as men and women as women, I'd hold that its a sin (though not a crime) to try to change it.

[liberty2897]

At a boy.... you can be anything you want to be.

Are you replying to me? $#@! you punk.

[liberty2897]

Theological reasoning: God created men as men and women as women, I'd hold that its a sin (thoYouugh not a crime) to try to change it.

$#@!... you guys are hopeless... I'm out for good.

[Dr.3D]

Are you replying to me? $#@! you punk.

Oh, I'm sorry....

At a girl.... you can be anything you want to be.