The sexual threats against Emma Watson are an attack on every woman

[pcosmar]

Emma Peel I remember..



These other Emmas,, not a clue.

[juleswin]

I agree that the term "feminism" is quite ambiguous nowadays. I mean, you have everyone from the street-walking hooker, the cashier at the 7-11, the lonely housewife, the factory worker, the man-hating lesbian, the porn star who gets gang-banged on camera, the elementary school teacher, the RN, to the erudite college professor all claiming to be a feminist.

What is it? It offers no clear definition.

With that said: you sound like you've taken on a victim mentality. To claim that men are somehow a 'victim' of women or feminism is laughable. I agree that the educational system sucks- there is no reason why a kid who either will end up becoming a construction worker or mechanic or an electrician or a plumber being forced into a curriculum that preps them for higher education, and favors those with higher verbal IQs. That's not the fault of feminism, though.

Are there no vo-tech schools anymore? I think the Germans have it right.

I dont quite understand the problem with diverse professionals and people calling them feminists. I hope more people adhered to the dictionary definition of feminism. But to your second paragraph, I refer to that to show that men and women are both victims depending of the area being discussed but movement feminism wants to elevate the problems faced by women as somehow greater than that men face.

Some of the problems men and women face cannot be solved by govt or society, they are just problem that arise because of human nature. Women will always be handicapped by the fact that they are the child bearers, the same goes for men when there aren't enough space in the life boat of a sinking ship. Tinker with this dynamic in favor of one gender and you hurt the others and this is why I oppose movement feminism.

[fr33]

I hate the headline but I'll be sure to let my wife know she's been attacked.

I didn't really have much of a problem with Emma Watson's speech. She talked about realities that some and all of us live in.

[pessimist]

I dont quite understand the problem with diverse professionals and people calling them feminists. I hope more people adhered to the dictionary definition of feminism.

I meant that some self-proclaimed feminists wouldn't consider the woman who has five guys stuffing a penis into every opening of her body as a real feminist, even though she may view herself as one. Some wouldn't consider a woman who chooses a traditional role in life as one either. Feminists can't even agree on a definition.

I hope more people adhered to the dictionary definition of feminism.

We do have equal rights though. There is nothing stopping one from attempting to achieve something in this country. However, as you alluded to, there are biological differences between the sexes, and there are genetic differences between individuals that prevent a truly egalitarian society.

There is no way I could ever become an NBA player, for example. I am just not athletic or fast enough for it. That doesn't mean I couldn't do something to become involved in the organization though.

I refer to that to show that men and women are both victims depending of the area being discussed but movement feminism wants to elevate the problems faced by women as somehow greater than that men face.

Men still hold most of the institutional power and wealth in this country. In fact, this is the case for the entire globe.

Some of the problems men and women face cannot be solved by govt or society, they are just problem that arise because of human nature.

I don't think we're at a stage in the West where a (collective) gender faces a 'crisis'. I think it's more about economic class than anything else.

[pessimist]

Didn't anyone watch this video? The guy on the right tried to explain how men are victims of women rapists- even the host (who apparently supported his cause) couldn't contain his laughter.

[fisharmor]

I meant that some self-proclaimed feminists wouldn't consider the woman who has five guys stuffing a penis into every opening of her body as a real feminist, even though she may view herself as one. Some wouldn't consider a woman who chooses a traditional role in life as one either. Feminists can't even agree on a definition.

But my point is that they DO agree on a definition.
The "Attack on Women" article is, as far as I can tell, common knowledge among feminists on FB and Twitter & such.
The writers who write on feminism choose to focus on a hoax rather than on real issues. The article I posted actually admits that the whole thing is a hoax, and goes on to say how it doesn't matter, it's still horrible.

I had an interesting conversation with several feminists on FB about this. Some of them bothered to look up the story about the OK police chief, and found some sycophantic article claiming that he's being taken out of context.
But none of them even knew that was even a thing. All feminists know what's going on with Watson - none of them know how likely it is to get raped by a cop and how little recourse there will be afterward.

The reason I don't take feminism seriously is because the group is generally too busy talking about teenage pranksters to recognize that women actually get raped by actual patriarchs and other actual patriarchs cover it up.

[fisharmor]

Emma Peel I remember..

She kicks ass on Game of Thrones.

[dude58677]

Rand Paul would say we are all individuals and we all have a right to defend ourselves.

[pessimist]

But my point is that they DO agree on a definition.
The "Attack on Women" article is, as far as I can tell, common knowledge among feminists on FB and Twitter & such.
The writers who write on feminism choose to focus on a hoax rather than on real issues. The article I posted actually admits that the whole thing is a hoax, and goes on to say how it doesn't matter, it's still horrible.

I had an interesting conversation with several feminists on FB about this. Some of them bothered to look up the story about the OK police chief, and found some sycophantic article claiming that he's being taken out of context.
But none of them even knew that was even a thing. All feminists know what's going on with Watson - none of them know how likely it is to get raped by a cop and how little recourse there will be afterward.

The reason I don't take feminism seriously is because the group is generally too busy talking about teenage pranksters to recognize that women actually get raped by actual patriarchs and other actual patriarchs cover it up.

My point was that the feminist 'movement' isn't homogenized- it's fragmented and has become high school cliquey- just like a subculture. There are groups out there who genuinely care about womens rights and are focused on real issues though. You can't discount them.

[Weston White]

Should any of us—females included—be shocked that the (so-called) feminist movement moralizes a romance-story playwright who is the proud owner of three failed marriages; an unethical journalist, who after reading her husband notes, etc., then finally putting two-and-two together, publicly exposed her first husband’s source (Deep Throat) in the Watergate scandal; who believes that institutions of higher education aught to be tasked with getting its students onboard with forwarding social agendas, be it statism, globalism, or feminism; and who championed Hilary Clinton—herself fired for corruption pertaining to Watergate, Nora Ephron?

Perhaps, it is true what they say, when it comes to feminism, fervid is misery made by its company?

So when I disagree with Hilary Clinton, I do so only because I am a misogynist, never may it be the case that my disagreement is because she is incorrect, negligent, misguided, deceitful, or whatnot? So what does it make a female that disagrees with Hilary Clinton, a traitorous bitch-whore, dishonest to the advancing cause of all other females, past, present, and future?

Is this sounding familiar yet or am I merely channeling spiteful tinges of Obama-tact? (Except in his case I would be labeled not a misogynist, but a racist.)

What about males who are threatened with battery or death; being financially neutered; or with having their families robbed, raped, and killed; or having photos of their drug abuse or infidelities publicly released unless they start toeing the line?

So what is the real issue here that females prefer to be equally threatened with battery and death or occupational termination—just as their male counterparts—than with sexual perversion or depravity by those that disagree with their agenda?

In the timeless words of Kevin Spacey (Lloyd) in “The Ref”:

“You know what I'm going to get you for Christmas, Mom? A big wooden cross, so that every time you feel unappreciated for your sacrifices, you can climb on up and nail yourself to it.”

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Men still hold most of the...wealth in this country.

Spent by most of the women in this country.

[Brian4Liberty]

Emma Peel I remember..



These other Emmas,, not a clue.

All I ever knew about Emma Peel was a song...

[Brian4Liberty]

I hope you 2 will be very happy together, she looks cute

No doubt she is.

What was expected was the response that AF wouldn't know who she was...

What they have in common is that they are very attractive (and both named Emma), but not top notch, from "Hollywood" standards. Maybe 8 out of 10s. Of course they would stand out in any ordinary room full of people. They also play somewhat nerdy characters. It makes them seem "accessible" to ordinary guys.

In that vein, I would be more Dana Scully than any Emmas...

[The Bavarian]

the truth is out there....

[Spikender]

"Understand," she said, "every attack on Hillary Clinton for not knowing her place is an attack on you." We must all take such attacks personally, she argued: "Underneath almost all those attacks are the words: Get back, get back to where you once belonged."

Hillary's "place" is underneath a pile of the dead bodies of every life she's responsible for $#@!ing over or ending, just like all of her ilk.

I don't play gender favoritism when it comes to cursing out these $#@!s.

Regardless, I'm too much of a self-centered person right now to care what "women" as a whole do, as if all women are on the same team. Maybe some men out there really do care about the gender of those in power, but I would kill to have a person who cares for liberty in high places whether they're a man or woman.

[KingNothing]

"Feminist" tend to be so far from rational at this point that the term is almost an insult. They're just progressive shills.

No, the wage gap is not real. No, all drunken sex is not rape. No, there is no rape culture. No, twenty, thirty or forty percent of women, or whatever percentage they want to throw out today, have not been raped. No, calling a man or woman a "bitch" or "pussy," is not inherently misogynistic. No, the term "bossy," is not emblematic of a patriarchal society that oppresses women.

They've earned their scorn by dis-empowering the very group they're ostensibly trying to support. Feminists seem absurd now because they make absurd arguments and fight for absurd things.

[Weston White]

Didn't anyone watch this video? The guy on the right tried to explain how men are victims of women rapists- even the host (who apparently supported his cause) couldn't contain his laughter.

To show one possible scenario: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1938146

However, the much greater concern should be when and where the FBI acquired the authority to redefine statutory definitions?

[PaulConventionWV]

It always amazes me how people manage to make a big deal out of stuff people say on 4chan.

[PaulConventionWV]

Didn't anyone watch this video? The guy on the right tried to explain how men are victims of women rapists- even the host (who apparently supported his cause) couldn't contain his laughter.

It happens. Why is that not relevant?

[pessimist]

To show one possible scenario: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1938146

However, the much greater concern should be when and where the FBI acquired the authority to redefine statutory definitions?

Yeah, everyone knows it's possible but it's just not common at all, and not freaking likely to happen.

Sadly, females have to be aware that there is a possibility of rape because it happens all the time to them. Mostly by the men they know, but they are much more likely to be date raped at a party, or raped at gun-point in a backalley.

[cajuncocoa]

We'll...don't have pictures taken with that on your face is all I have to say.

Probably too simple for a Hollywood starlet.

[pessimist]

It happens. Why is that not relevant?

A man is much more likely to be raped by another man.

You need to give some pretty extreme examples of women raping men.

[Weston White]

Yeah, everyone knows it's possible but it's just not common at all, and not freaking likely to happen.

Sadly, females have to be aware that there is a possibility of rape because it happens all the time to them. Mostly by the men they know, but they are much more likely to be date raped at a party, or raped at gun-point in a backalley.

In the beginning of the movie Moore attempts to rape Douglas in her office the first night after she becomes his boss. The rest of the movie is about the sexual harassment charges and countercharges, but there is much more going on in the plot that just that.

Disclosure (1994)

In asking 40,000 households about rape and sexual violence, the survey uncovered that 38 percent of incidents were against men.
. . .
The experience of men and women is “a lot closer than any of us would expect,” she says. For some kinds of victimization, men and women have roughly equal experiences. Stemple concluded that we need to “completely rethink our assumptions about sexual victimization,” and especially our fallback model that men are always the perpetrators and women the victims.
. . .
When those cases were taken into account, the rates of nonconsensual sexual contact basically equalized, with 1.270 million women and 1.267 million men claiming to be victims of sexual violence.
. . .
A recent analysis of BJS data, for example, turned up that 46 percent of male victims reported a female perpetrator.
. . .
For example, of juveniles reporting staff sexual misconduct, 89 percent were boys reporting abuse by a female staff member. In total, inmates reported an astronomical 900,000 incidents of sexual abuse.

When Men Are Raped: A new study reveals that men are often the victims of sexual assault, and women are often the perpetrators.

Nearly 3 in 10 women and 1 in 10 men in the United States have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner and reported at least one impact related to experiencing these or other forms of violent behavior in the relationship (e.g., being fearful, concerned for safety, post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) symptoms, need for health care, injury, contacting a crisis hotline, need for housing services, need for victim’s advocate services, need for legal services, missed at least one day of work or school).

http://www.cdc.gov/violencepreventio...port2010-a.pdf

We concluded that federal surveys detect a high prevalence of sexual victimization among men—in many circumstances similar to the prevalence found among women. We identified factors that perpetuate misperceptions about men’s sexual victimization: reliance on traditional gender stereotypes, outdated and inconsistent definitions, and methodological sampling biases that exclude inmates.

http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi...rnalCode=ajph&

[KingNothing]

Men can be raped by women, but... c'mon. Really? Really?

[pessimist]

A recent analysis of BJS data, for example, turned up that 46 percent of male victims reported a female perpetrator.

so that would mean the majority still would have been men raped/sexually assaulted by other men. And really…46 percent? Does this include drugging, enslavement, and violent intercourse?

I'm sorry but most men simply do not fear being raped by a woman. You can toss out any stat you want to support your argument, but you'll have a hard time convincing everyone that women are just as likely to be violent rapists as men are.

As for the domestic abuse thing... I'll buy into that, but I think women are more likely to verbally abuse than to physically beat their husbands...I mean, how many stories do you hear of a woman coming home drunk, beating her kids, and putting her husband’s head through a wall?

No doubt they can fly into a rage just as men do, but I just don't believe that they violently assault and batter in the way men do to them.

Most violent crime and murder are committed by men, btw.

[Weston White]

No doubt they can fly into a rage just as men do, but I just don't believe that they violently assault and batter in the way men do to them.

Most violent crime and murder are committed by men, btw.

3:10 to 1:10, thus women are about 2/3 more likely to be sexually battered or raped by somebody they are close to, e.g., their "partner"... these are not fifty to one odds, these are not a million in one chance, this is not a then I might just as well play the Lotto situation.

...And while on the subject just how many men drown all of their children, put their babies into microwaves, or shoot their entire family, and for no apparent reason or without any relatable justification?

[osan]

And also, that this is why nobody takes feminism seriously.

Feminists do.

[juleswin]

Men can be raped by women, but... c'mon. Really? Really?

lol, that is usually the point where some of the MRAs loose me. If a man doesn't want to be "raped", he will not be raped. The same goes with physical abuse. But just like every rule there are few exception

[osan]

Good golly Miss Molly... her juggs arrive in a room three minutes before the rest of her. How, pray tell, does that small woman not tip over onto her face 40 times an hour?

[osan]

What did she just say?

She was talking?