VIDEO: Rand Paul Speaks at Values Voter Summit 2014

[radiofriendly]

http://www.dailypaul.com/326829/vide...tember-26-2014

https://time.com/3433033/values-vote...ruz-rand-paul/

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-voters-speech

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

FRC's cut includes the introduction, which was predtty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j79mevHYA6I

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

Politico has the full transcript: http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.c...AAA118CBE34900

[William Tell]

Politico has the full transcript: http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.c...AAA118CBE34900

That was his 2012 speech. Thanks for posting it.

[torchbearer]

+1

[anaconda]

Does Mr. Paul have no concerns about apartheid in Israel?

[Crashland]

Ugh. Speeches like these make me wonder why I support this guy. Then I get towards the end and get a glimmer of why.

[William Tell]

Pretty good speech, but I just noticed something. Why is it that so much of the content of his speeches focus on quotes from famous people. Ronald Reagan, Mother Theresa, Thomas Payne...
Does anyone else think he might ought to focus more on being Rand Paul? That is not intended as criticism, I am behind him, but what do y'all think?

[CaptUSA]

Pretty good speech, but I just noticed something. Why is it that so much of the content of his speeches focus on quotes from famous people. Ronald Reagan, Mother Theresa, Thomas Payne...
Does anyone else think he might ought to focus more on being Rand Paul? That is not intended as criticism, I am behind him, but what do y'all think?

He does it to curry favor with the audience to which he is speaking. It's a way of getting them to agree with what he is saying. You wouldn't expect an attendee from the "value voters summit" to boo Reagan, Payne, or Mother Theresa, would you?

It's actually a humble way of making an argument. Instead of declaring that all these thoughts are mine and you should listen to me, he says, "hey, a lot of people you lie say some things I think are pretty smart."

[Brett85]

Ugh. Speeches like these make me wonder why I support this guy. Then I get towards the end and get a glimmer of why.

What was wrong with the first part of his speech?

[Crashland]

What was wrong with the first part of his speech?

It's kind of annoying when when Rand mixes in his own personal opinion as a private citizen, into a speech as a US Senator on advocating public policy. In the same speech he goes on about US foreign policy, and keeping government out of religion, and also goes on about how "America needs to revive the hope that springs eternal from the transcendent teachings of a humble carpenter who died upon a cross." dafuq? Who wrote that line?

[William Tell]

He does it to curry favor with the audience to which he is speaking. It's a way of getting them to agree with what he is saying. You wouldn't expect an attendee from the "value voters summit" to boo Reagan, Payne, or Mother Theresa, would you?

I don't think many of them would like Paine's religious views. Yeah, I get your point.

[Brett85]

It's kind of annoying when when Rand mixes in his own personal opinion as a private citizen, into a speech as a US Senator on advocating public policy. In the same speech he goes on about US foreign policy, and keeping government out of religion, and also goes on about how "America needs to revive the hope that springs eternal from the transcendent teachings of a humble carpenter who died upon a cross." dafuq? Who wrote that line?

He believes in keeping government out of religion, not religion out of government. Besides, he's not forcing his views on anyone simply by talking about his faith. It's his 1st amendment right to discuss his faith in public.

[William Tell]

It's kind of annoying when when Rand mixes in his own personal opinion as a private citizen, into a speech as a US Senator on advocating public policy. In the same speech he goes on about US foreign policy, and keeping government out of religion, and also goes on about how "America needs to revive the hope that springs eternal from the transcendent teachings of a humble carpenter who died upon a cross."

He wants a revival that goes beyond mere politics. 'Restore America Now'

[Crashland]

He believes in keeping government out of religion, not religion out of government. Besides, he's not forcing his views on anyone simply by talking about his faith. It's his 1st amendment right to discuss his faith in public.

I agree, but when you fail to make a distinction between when you are speaking your own personal views, versus public policy that you are willing to actually have government impose on everyone, then you are either misleading the audience, or you are advocating for keeping government in religion. In this case, it is probably the former, because it is politically expedient.

[Brett85]

I agree, but when you fail to make a distinction between when you are speaking your own personal views, versus public policy that you are willing to actually have government impose on everyone, then you are either misleading the audience, or you are advocating for keeping government in religion. In this case, it is probably the former, because it is politically expedient.

I don't see how the comment by Rand that you quoted had anything at all to do with "government imposing religion" on anyone.

America needs to revive the hope that springs eternal from the transcendent teachings of a humble carpenter who died upon a cross.

[Crashland]

I don't see how the comment by Rand that you quoted had anything at all to do with "government imposing religion" on anyone.

It's the context. When you sprinkle stuff like that in the middle of a bunch of other statements that actually do have to do with public policy, there is a certain implication there.

[ClydeCoulter]

Ugh. Speeches like these make me wonder why I support this guy. Then I get towards the end and get a glimmer of why.

I couldn't make to the end. So, it gets better after the Israel worship?

[ClydeCoulter]

Pretty good speech, but I just noticed something. Why is it that so much of the content of his speeches focus on quotes from famous people. Ronald Reagan, Mother Theresa, Thomas Payne...
Does anyone else think he might ought to focus more on being Rand Paul? That is not intended as criticism, I am behind him, but what do y'all think?

Yes, I noticed that also (to the point that I could watch). I think that quoting others is seen, by some, as more credible than having your own common sense and thoughts.

[William Tell]

Yes, I noticed that also (to the point that I could watch). I think that quoting others is seen, by some, as more credible than having your own common sense and thoughts.

Yeah, I think it would bother me less if he was quoting less famous people than those he generally does. It comes off as hitching his wagon to big names, to me anyway.

[Crashland]

It's the context. When you sprinkle stuff like that in the middle of a bunch of other statements that actually do have to do with public policy, there is a certain implication there.

TC - It's one of those things I think where it's a lot more difficult to see if you actually agree with it. Imagine if there was another libertarian-leaning Senator, doing a speech where he covers a number of public policy points, and sprinkled among those policy points, he brings up how America needs to come back with a revival to the teachings of the Vedas, and how no secular government can claim the same motivation as Ghandi; making constant references to Hinduism, no references to any other belief systems, and not taking any care to let the audience know when he is only expressing a personal opinion? How confident would you be that this Senator would keep government out of the business of imposing religion?

[Brett85]

TC - It's one of those things I think where it's a lot more difficult to see if you actually agree with it. Imagine if there was another libertarian-leaning Senator, doing a speech where he covers a number of public policy points, and sprinkled among those policy points, he brings up how America needs to come back with a revival to the teachings of the Vedas, and how no secular government can claim the same motivation as Ghandi; making constant references to Hinduism, no references to any other belief systems, and not taking any care to let the audience know when he is only expressing a personal opinion? How confident would you be that this Senator would keep government out of the business of imposing religion?

That would be rather weird. I think you do have to take into account though that America is predominately a Christian nation, and the majority of the people who will be voting in the 2016 elections will be Christians. (At least in name) That's just the way it is. This isn't to say that other religions aren't allowed in America. People are free to practice any religion they choose in this country, including atheism. But I don't think you can just ignore the Judea-Christian roots that we have as a nation.

[Crashland]

That would be rather weird. I think you do have to take into account though that America is predominately a Christian nation, and the majority of the people who will be voting in the 2016 elections will be Christians. (At least in name) That's just the way it is. This isn't to say that other religions aren't allowed in America. People are free to practice any religion they choose in this country, including atheism. But I don't think you can just ignore the Judea-Christian roots that we have as a nation.

Yes, certainly can't ignore it if you want to win an election. I'm not saying it's not good politically. But just because "Judeo-Christian roots" are a big part of our nation's history, does not mean that it will always be predominantly Judeo-Christian. The system has to still be able to work regardless of which religion happens to be in the majority. That's exactly how it was designed.

[anaconda]

Pretty good speech, but I just noticed something. Why is it that so much of the content of his speeches focus on quotes from famous people. Ronald Reagan, Mother Theresa, Thomas Payne...
Does anyone else think he might ought to focus more on being Rand Paul? That is not intended as criticism, I am behind him, but what do y'all think?

Absolutely agree with you.

[anaconda]

I couldn't make to the end. So, it gets better after the Israel worship?

How could it not?

[nayjevin]

TC - It's one of those things I think where it's a lot more difficult to see if you actually agree with it. Imagine if there was another libertarian-leaning Senator, doing a speech where he covers a number of public policy points, and sprinkled among those policy points, he brings up how America needs to come back with a revival to the teachings of the Vedas, and how no secular government can claim the same motivation as Ghandi; making constant references to Hinduism, no references to any other belief systems, and not taking any care to let the audience know when he is only expressing a personal opinion? How confident would you be that this Senator would keep government out of the business of imposing religion?

Maybe you're not aware the audience he's speaking to. He is talking about himself and his religion because that is what is important to the people who were there. He addressed the issues important to them, because they came to hear what he believes about what is important to themselves, not what is important to other people.

Pretty good speech, but I just noticed something. Why is it that so much of the content of his speeches focus on quotes from famous people. Ronald Reagan, Mother Theresa, Thomas Payne...
Does anyone else think he might ought to focus more on being Rand Paul? That is not intended as criticism, I am behind him, but what do y'all think?

I didn't know this opinion existed in the world, and I don't understand it. Quotes bolster credibility and are interesting IMO.

[specsaregood]

Randal @ 16:59 shows just how comfortable he has gotten and can charm off the cuff. Start @16:35 for context.

[Krugminator2]

I didn't know this opinion existed in the world, and I don't understand it. Quotes bolster credibility and are interesting IMO.

Rand quoted Bastiat and went through the Seen vs the Unseen with McConnell during the health care debate last year and I thought it was really great. Those kind of little quotes and examples convinced me that he knows his stuff.

[mit26chell]

The audience cheering for Israel made me nauseous. I understand the religious pandering $#@!, but it's definitely uncomfortable to watch.

[Liberty74]

So many of you want to change the Republican Party from within. I am of one who wants to bolt and take the Liberty message to the Independent Party which has really no message, no platform, no leaders. It could be ours!

With that said, this is the speech you have to give to social conservatives if you want to win the Republican nomination. It was a good speech but nothing mind blowing. Rand unlike his father is doing what needs to be done to pave a way to the WH which includes his most recent trip to CA silicon valley area. It's how you win within the system - expanding your network, rubbing shoulders, building coalitions, etc.

For those anti-semantics in here, Israel isn't going anywhere.