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    New airstrikes under way; planes targeting refineries used by ISIS

    New airstrikes under way; planes targeting refineries used by ISIS

    By Laura Smith-Spark, Barbara Starr and Gul Tuysuz, CNN
    updated 5:33 PM EDT, Wed September 24, 2014

    The airstrikes against ISIS positions in eastern Syria targeted modular oil refineries, Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby told CNN on Wednesday.

    "These strikes just ended moments ago," he said.

    The warplanes targeted 12 locations, and they included warplanes from the United States, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, Kirby said.

    U.S. and coalition warplanes pounded ISIS positions in eastern Syria, targeting oil installations being used by the so-called Islamic State terror group, a U.S. official with knowledge of the operation told CNN on Wednesday.

    The latest round of airstrikes appeared to be an effort to cut off money flowing to ISIS, which has been selling oil to help finance the group's operations.

    The strikes hit about a dozen targets, the official said. Among those flying alongside U.S. planes were forces from the United Arab Emirates, a second official said. Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release details to the media.

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    http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/24/world/...kes/index.html



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    Later, we will pay Bechtel to rebuild them. Then we can blow them up again.
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    glad I got gas today....
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    What a load of horse$#@!! Blowing up refineries in Syria is an attack on 'ISIS'? They're not even trying to be slick about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    Later, we will pay Bechtel to rebuild them. Then we can blow them up again.
    Quite effectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    What a load of horse$#@!! Blowing up refineries in Syria is an attack on 'ISIS'? They're not even trying to be slick about this.
    IS sells the oil from the refineries on the black market for $2 million a day.

    Cutting off their funding sources is the best way to prevent them from having the financing for a large scale terror attack.

    The sad part is that the US will probably pay to rebuild them in the future if this war follows the typical path of recent wars.

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    what about the climate change thing?...all that pollution from the burning oil and stuff?...

    Its all about our 'interests'...is that right....? or not...?

    nevermind. I think i hit my head too hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JK/SEA View Post
    what about the climate change thing?...all that pollution from the burning oil and stuff?...

    Its all about our 'interests'...is that right....? or not...?

    nevermind. I think i hit my head too hard.
    Obama will probably get a Nobel prize in environmentalism for bombing the refineries. That's how it seems to work lately.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    IS sells the oil from the refineries on the black market for $2 million a day.
    No they don't. ISIS is a CIA and Mossad controlled front group of mercenaries and intelligence operatives. Refineries are being attacked because that's where Assad's government gets it's revenues from. They're destroying the infrastructure of the existing government just like always.

    Cutting off their funding sources is the best way to prevent them from having the financing for a large scale terror attack.
    WE ARE THE TERRORISTS BY BOMBING AND MISSILE ATTACKING A COUNTRY THAT NEVER EVEN THREATENED US!

    The sad part is that the US will probably pay to rebuild them in the future if this war follows the typical path of recent wars.
    That we agree on. Only once a puppet government is installed and a western central bank is in place will they be rebuilt though. It's following the exact same path of lies and disinformation to invade a sovereign nation as Afghanistan and Iraq so naturally the nation building process will be the same too.
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    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Turkey will be pissed. They are main buyer of ISIS stolen oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surf View Post
    glad I got gas today....
    Yeah, I'm sure they will use this as an excuse to raise the price of fuel again. (Isn't that just admitting they were buying from the black market?)

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    Expect Fuel Tanker Hijackings to increase in the whole area.

    I am just wondering how long it will take for the blowback inside these Arab countries to start.

    I was already expecting a Civil war in Jordan,, but this will piss off a lot of Wahabis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Turkey will be pissed. They are main buyer of ISIS stolen oil.
    Energy @ a 40% DISCOUNT TOO

    The Fascist State must protect corporate profits and government taxes on energy... just more proof, doesn't matter who or what is in office... the markets/commodities and money, will be rigged/controlled and the bombs will always fall to protect the profitnerships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orenbus View Post
    These people make a big deal out of simple minded crap and discuss it at length. This is supposed to get everyone to think it "normal" to be so simple minded. I can't watch the whole thing. And If the first Obama segment had been any longer I may not have been able to post this but would have been on the way to Walmart for another monitor.
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    What.
    da.
    $#@!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    What.
    da.
    $#@!?
    Nutshell would be using this as a prop to justify a different kind of cyber security. Especially with regard to the broader scheme of foreign policy with other nations. So then we need to become better aquainted with infrastructure that has been systematically put into place with regard to the domestic and international finance clearing models of those various nations and partners. Like Russia, China, all the BRICS...you get the idea. Remember the old gag about never let a good crisis go to waste?

    As well, it should be noted that some countries were not invited" into the so called "coalition".

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    AWESOME!!!

    This is exactly the strategy I was hyping before. Turn their mobile armor - hell, mobile everything into pillboxes.

    Now lets create some 40' "potholes" in every road connecting ISIL controlled towns...

    To some of the idiots posting on this thread please note that Syria only has TWO, that's right TWO industrial size oil refineries! See my thread DIY oil refinery - Nigerian style to get an idea of what they hit! Refineries are rare,

    Finally! - the US mil is growing a brain!

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    Last edited by tangent4ronpaul; 09-25-2014 at 04:04 AM.

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    I believe this to be an attack on assad's government. This is not about the ISIS BS
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    IS sells the oil from the refineries on the black market for $2 million a day.

    Cutting off their funding sources is the best way to prevent them from having the financing for a large scale terror attack.

    The sad part is that the US will probably pay to rebuild them in the future if this war follows the typical path of recent wars.
    Yep, agree.

    This shows this is a more traditional full blown war - that the Senate should have approved of -

    the sorties hitting radar installations very first to get clear dominion of the airspace -



    Saudi, UAE, French and Australian fighter jets are already involved (bombing and support) . . . once that is total - I mean TOTAL air no-fly outside of allied forces, then . . .
    Last edited by extortion17; 09-25-2014 at 01:48 AM.

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    French and Australian fighter jets are already involved
    ref please?

    I can see why the French would throw their hat in the ring, concerning the recent beheading of one of their citizens.

    -t

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    Next targets are hospitals and valuable infrastructures that ISIS is using to hide and operate from.. let's bomb those too. Oh, yeah, bomb out bridges so ISIS cant travel on. ISIS needs water, lets blow up some aquaducts and irrigation channels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alucard13mm View Post
    Next targets are hospitals and valuable infrastructures that ISIS is using to hide and operate from.. let's bomb those too. Oh, yeah, bomb out bridges so ISIS cant travel on. ISIS needs water, lets blow up some aquaducts and irrigation channels.
    You are being sarcastic, but thinking along the right lines. ISIL is the borg. convert or die and that means you are an involuntary soldier for them. They feed you. They arm you. You don't want to be there. Make your life more miserable and you will REVOLT or DESERT! They want to set up a gvmt. Destroy their credibility to do that. Let them hold tiny pieces of land and not be able to attack anyone. Not be able to touch our peeps. SPW XXXIII

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    AJAM is reporting that they hit oil FIELDS! There is a world of difference between an oil field and a refinery. Engines do NOT run on crude! Getting from crude to a refined liquid fuel is the Achilles heal. Refineries are rare.

    I pity the people fighting those fires. They are a bitch to put out.

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    server F up
    Last edited by tangent4ronpaul; 09-25-2014 at 02:51 AM.

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    server F up

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    ref please?

    I can see why the French would throw their hat in the ring, concerning the recent beheading of one of their citizens.

    -t
    Aussies dedicated fighhter jets last week in a news conference by Prime Minister Tony Abbott
    when their terror level went to it's highest ever last week - days later arrests for plot by ISIL-sympathizers/operatives
    for public beheadings of random Aussie citizens.

    Aussies also committed to the allied forces some 600 SF pairs of boots

    French was from a forum post here - hadn't seeen anythng specific.

    I'll presume that rthe Danish would be involved as well - USA built F-35's need a testing ground for the Danes and Aussies -
    I guess WWIII is now that testing ground maybe a little earlier than originally planned.

    NATO treaties means it is World War III vs. the Hitler-esque quasi-nation ISIL

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ttack-25585654




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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    IS sells the oil from the refineries on the black market for $2 million a day.
    You write of "IS" as if you knew that they were what media reports them to be. That is a pretty wild assumption.

    Cutting off their funding sources is the best way to prevent them from having the financing for a large scale terror attack.
    This is also rife with presumptions that may be correct in whole or in part. They may also be likewise incorrect.

    The sad part is that the US will probably pay to rebuild them in the future if this war follows the typical path of recent wars.
    And finally, you write something sensible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by extortion17 View Post



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