Mysterious Virus Spreading Across U.S. and Canada And Primarily Affecting Vaccinated Children

[donnay]

Mysterious Virus Spreading Across U.S. and Canada And Primarily Affecting Vaccinated Children

SEPTEMBER 22, 2014 by DAVE MIHALOVIC

It's being considered a severe respiratory virus known as EV-D68. It hits hard and fast and has already created an outbreak in Colorado, Missouri, Utah, Kansas, Illinois, Ohio, and four more states in the Midwest. It has also crossed over the Canada with confirmed cases in Alberta, British Columbia and Ontario. Although there is no known vaccine for the virus, ironically a common theme has been discovered in those who have been infected...they have all been vaccinated.



The symptoms can mimic those of the influenza virus, but can have a much more dire impact on those that fall ill. Dr. Mary Anne Jackson, the hospital’s division director for infectious disease shared her concern with CNN.

"It's worse in terms of scope of critically ill children who require intensive care. I would call it unprecedented. I’ve practiced for 30 years in pediatrics, and I’ve never seen anything quite like this."

The Enterovirus D68 (EV-D68) has infected more than 150 children in the U.S., and has recently spread to Canada with 18 confirmed cases in three provinces.

So far, no one has died from the virus but dozens of children have had to be treated in intensive care units.

Enteroviruses, such as EV-D68, are related to the common cold virus and can spread from person to person through coughing and sneezing, by close contact with infected persons or by touching a contaminated surface. In general, Enteroviruses circulate and peak in the summer and fall months so it is not unusual to see increased illnesses caused by Enteroviruses this time of year, however the intensity at which the virus is attacking children is rare.

There are more than 100 types of enteroviruses causing about 10 to 15 million infections in the United States each year, according to the CDC. They are carried in the intestinal tract and often spread to other parts of the body.

Although there is no known vaccine for the virus, and the scope which it will reach is also unknown, those that have become infected are following a common theme. They have all been vaccinated with the MMR vaccines, influenza vaccines, and polio vaccines. Of course, many children in the United States have been vaccinated, and most are required to be vaccinated in order to enter school. However, it is interesting to note that the illness is not occurring, yet, in children that have not been vaccinated.

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[Zippyjuan]

Given that most kids are vaccinated, any virus will occur mostly in vaccinated children.

[VIDEODROME]

Kinda wonder if I had this. Both myself and my parents just go over a helluva cold. Initial sore throat seemed worse than usual and a lot more coughing.

But yeah, I'm vaccinated

[thoughtomator]

Obama's little human smallpox blankets are playing their role perfectly. Wonder what else has come along with those shipments to undisclosed locations all around the US of medically unscreened minors?

[Acala]

Nearly all American children who die in car accidents each year are vaccinated.

[pcosmar]

Rare virus.

at least it was rare, ,until this year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterovirus_68

[dannno]

C'mon debunkers, learn to read..

The Enterovirus D68 (EV-D68) has infected more than 150 children in the U.S., and has recently spread to Canada with 18 confirmed cases in three provinces.

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Although there is no known vaccine for the virus, and the scope which it will reach is also unknown, those that have become infected are following a common theme. They have all been vaccinated with the MMR vaccines, influenza vaccines, and polio vaccines. Of course, many children in the United States have been vaccinated, and most are required to be vaccinated in order to enter school. However, it is interesting to note that the illness is not occurring, yet, in children that have not been vaccinated.

[jllundqu]

This is just sad.

Is that the best they could write? One could draw that conclusion about anything, as Acala notes.

Would be funny if it wasn't so friggin sad...

[Acala]

C'mon debunkers, learn to read..

Millions of children in the US and Canada have been vaccinated. Less than 200 cases of this virus are known in this outbreak. That is not a correlation. The allegation that none of the tiny number that got it have been vaccinated (assuming it is true) is also not significant. Unvaccinated children in the US and Canada are rare. That none turn up in such a tiny sample shows nothing at all. This kind of "thinking" hurts credibility.

Now if you had a situation where, for example, several hundred children were known to have been exposed (like in a school situation) and the half that had been vaccinated got sick and the half that were not vaccinated did not, THEN you have something to talk about. You can't get similar meaningful stats for an entire national population unless you have millions of people getting sick.

[erowe1]

Given that most kids are vaccinated, any virus will occur mostly in vaccinated children.

I don't know if the article is accurate. But it doesn't just claim that most of the cases are in vaccinated kids. It claims that all of them are: 168 out of 168.

[erowe1]

Turns out the debunkers are right here.

Only 3 in 1,000 kids in America are unvaccinated.
http://www.immunizationinfo.org/scie...nated-children

That means that the likelihood that any random sampling of 168 kids having zero unvaccinated kids is still as high as 60% (=.997^168).

[dannno]

Turns out the debunkers are right here.

Only 3 in 1,000 kids in America are unvaccinated.
http://www.immunizationinfo.org/scie...nated-children

That means that the likelihood that any random sampling of 168 kids having zero unvaccinated kids is still as high as 60% (=.997^168).

According to the article, all of the children have been vaccinated with required vaccines as well as influenza. That number is probably different.

I'd be more curious if they'd all received the influenza vaccine in the last year.

[erowe1]

According to the article, all of the children have been vaccinated with required vaccines as well as influenza. That number is probably different.

I'd be more curious if they'd all received the influenza vaccine in the last year.

I'm not sure if you're talking about a different part of the article. But the crucial lines for me are these:

However, it is interesting to note that the illness is not occurring, yet, in children that have not been vaccinated.

"So far all of the reports we are seeing are coming in from children who have been partially or fully immunized," said infectious disease specialist Dr. Heather Ashton.

So they're counting anyone who has ever had any immunizations (i.e. 99.7% of the population).

If you select a group of 168 people at random, there's a 60% chance that all 168 of them will be partially or fully immunized.

[TheCount]

If you select a group of 168 people at random, there's a 60% chance that all 168 of them will be partially or fully immunized.

If you narrow that to school-aged children in areas where vaccination is mandatory...

[donnay]

If you narrow that to school-aged children in areas where vaccination is mandatory...

Vaccines are not mandatory. They lie and say they are but there are waivers you have to specifically ask for.

Reference:
http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-New...t-Really-.aspx
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.c...-vaccinations/
http://www.thinktwice.com/school.htm

[erowe1]

If you narrow that to school-aged children in areas where vaccination is mandatory...

Do you think 99.7% is too low of a number?

I actually thought that there would be more than 3 out of 1000 kids whose parents would refuse all vaccines even if they're supposedly mandatory. I just used that number because it was the first one I found.

[KingNothing]

Turns out the debunkers are right here.

Only 3 in 1,000 kids in America are unvaccinated.
http://www.immunizationinfo.org/scie...nated-children

That means that the likelihood that any random sampling of 168 kids having zero unvaccinated kids is still as high as 60% (=.997^168).

I'm guessing the anti-vax crowd doesn't understand the math you just did.

[donnay]

I'm guessing the anti-vax crowd doesn't understand the math you just did.

Hmm...I didn't know common core was around when you were in grade school.

[MelissaWV]

Do you think 99.7% is too low of a number?

I actually thought that there would be more than 3 out of 1000 kids whose parents would refuse all vaccines even if they're supposedly mandatory. I just used that number because it was the first one I found.

How many unvaccinated children of that age are in public school? Most of the parents I know who are refusing vaccinations are also home schooling.

[donnay]

Spreading Respiratory Virus May Cause Polio-like Paralysis: CDC

September 28th, 2014
by Dave Hodges

Health officials are investigating nine cases of muscle weakness or paralysis in Colorado children and whether the culprit might be a virus causing severe respiratory illness across the country.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Friday sent doctors an alert about the polio-like cases and said the germ – enterovirus 68 – was detected in four out of eight of the sick children who had a certain medical test. The status of the ninth case is unclear.
The virus can cause paralysis but other germs can, too. Health officials don’t know whether the virus caused any of the children’s arm and leg weaknesses or whether it’s just a germ they coincidentally picked up.

“That’s why we want more information,” and for doctors to report similar cases, said the CDC’s Dr. Jane Seward.

The cases occurred within the last two months. All nine children are being treated at Children’s Hospital Colorado in Aurora, and most are from the Denver area. A hospital spokeswoman said the patients’ families didn’t want to talk to the media.

The nine children had fever and respiratory illness about two weeks before developing varying degrees of limb weakness.None seems to have a weak immune system or other conditions that might predispose them to severe illness, but the cases are still being investigated, Seward said.

Investigators don’t think it’s polio – eight of the nine children are up to date on polio vaccinations. It’s not known whether the limb weakness or paralysis is temporary or will be long-lasting.

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[TheCount]

Investigators don’t think it’s polio – eight of the nine children are up to date on polio vaccinations. It’s not known whether the limb weakness or paralysis is temporary or will be long-lasting.

So much for your assertion that the children were fully immunized.

[donnay]

So much for your assertion that the children were fully immunized.

Read that again...
8 out of the 9 are up-to-date on polio vaccinations.

[MelissaWV]

Read that again...
8 out of the 9 are up-to-date on polio vaccinations.

Read your OP again:

those that have become infected are following a common theme. They have all been vaccinated with the MMR vaccines, influenza vaccines, and polio vaccines.

You even bolded it for us.

So if all of those that became infected were immunized against polio, how can only 8 of the 9 in the follow-up be up to date on polio vaccinations?

[erowe1]

Read your OP again:


You even bolded it for us.

So if all of those that became infected were immunized against polio, how can only 8 of the 9 in the follow-up be up to date on polio vaccinations?

The loophole in the article in OP was the phrase "partially or fully immunized," which wasn't part of what was copied and pasted into the OP.

[donnay]

Read your OP again:


You even bolded it for us.

So if all of those that became infected were immunized against polio, how can only 8 of the 9 in the follow-up be up to date on polio vaccinations?

Yes...1 is not up-to-date with the polio vaccination in today's news. Enterovirus is a polio-like illness.

Enteroviruses gains entry into the body through the alimentary tract. Viral replication takes place in the cells lining the alimentary tract and may be preceded or accompanied by oropharyngeal replication. For several enteroviruses, a viraemic phase is followed by involvement of target organs e.g. the spinal cord, brain, meninges, myocardium or skin. Incubation periods vary widely from 2 to 40 days. It is also possible that enteroviruses can be transmitted by the respiratory route, although it is not known how many types can be transmitted this way. Enteroviruses can probably be transmitted in the same way as other viruses causing the common cold-that is by hand contact with secretions and autoinoculation into the mouth, nose, or eyes. Enterovirus infections are rarely associated with the consumption of contaminated water and foods.

http://virology-online.com/viruses/Enteroviruses.htm