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Thread: 1 in 4 Americans open to secession

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    1 in 4 Americans open to secession

    (Reuters) - The failed Scottish vote to pull out from the United Kingdom stirred secessionist hopes for some in the United States, where almost a quarter of people are open to their states leaving the union, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll found.

    Some 23.9 percent of Americans polled from Aug. 23 through Sept. 16 said they strongly supported or tended to support the idea of their state breaking away, while 53.3 percent of the 8,952 respondents strongly opposed or tended to oppose the notion.

    The urge to sever ties with Washington cuts across party lines and regions, though Republicans and residents of rural Western states are generally warmer to the idea than Democrats and Northeasterners, according to the poll.
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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0HE19U20140919



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    I'm curious to see a state by state breakdown

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    I would vote yes

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    These are the "good" times. Wait until the dollar collapses and the federal government has to tighten the screws.

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    Wake me when it's 3 of 4.

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    I'm in. Do we need to get a permit or something? </sarc>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    I'm in. Do we need to get a permit or something? </sarc>
    During the Civil War ,one town and township in my State seceded , I do not think they ever lifted it.It is in a county Northeast of me by a county .

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    I'm curious to see a state by state breakdown
    I'd like to see the demographic of the states too...

    What percentage of their populace sucks the tit has got to play a major factor...



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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I would vote yes
    When do we start, and where?

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    That is a pretty scary statistic for the establishment. I expect it to hit a third in the next 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    That is a pretty scary statistic for the establishment. I expect it to hit a third in the next 5 years.
    A quarter are undecided. That means it is already at a third: 26-52%. I imagine in some areas it could be more like 32-45%. Given another stock market crash and unpopular war and we probably see a majority supporting secession in some states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    I'm curious to see a state by state breakdown
    Here's a regional breakdown

    http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaine...e-u-s-but-why/
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    under the direction of the most wealthy citizens." - Anonymous framer of the US Constitution, Independent Gazetteer, January 29, 1791

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    lol the neocons would just invade and drag them back.
    Last edited by pessimist; 09-19-2014 at 01:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    I'm in. Do we need to get a permit or something? </sarc>
    Of course we need a permit silly.
    "Sorry, guys, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit." -Tod

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    Wow, look at the age break down. Younger people seem significantly more likely to support secession than older people:

    60+: 67.4 oppose, 15.3 support
    40-59: 58.4 oppose, 23.5 support
    18-39: 43.2 oppose, 32.2 support

    http://polling.reuters.com/#!respons...40823-20140919

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    My breakaway country would be VT NH ME along with NB and NS from Canada.

    Pretty much nothing would ever happen there.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    My breakaway country would be VT NH ME along with NB and NS from Canada.

    Pretty much nothing would ever happen there.
    I, literally, dream of the day.

    VT - ME - NH allied with NB - NS - Newfoundland and Labrador, seperated by a Quebec barrier after they secede.

    Oil, natural gas, stunning scenic beauty for tourism, fisheries, coal, ice free ports, timber, gold and granite, along with hi-tech industries.

    All free from the tyrants in DC and Ottowa.

    *sigh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    My breakaway country would be VT NH ME along with NB and NS from Canada.

    Pretty much nothing would ever happen there.
    I, literally, dream of the day.

    VT - ME - NH allied with NB - NS - Newfoundland and Labrador, seperated by a Quebec barrier after they secede.

    Oil, natural gas, stunning scenic beauty for tourism, fisheries, coal, ice free ports, timber, gold and granite, along with hi-tech industries.

    All free from the tyrants in DC and Ottowa.

    *sigh*

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    Independence from the British Empire is ridiculous...never happens.


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    Yet the UK STILL won't let Northern Ireland go.

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    23.9 percent of Americans just got their names on the no-fly list.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Northern Ireland wouldn't vote for independence until the demographics shift

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    In general, it replaces a far-away tyrant with a tyrant in your own back yard.
    In other words, it puts them in rifle range.
    Equality is a false god.

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    It is going to happen but not until 2032.

    http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/0...-into-regions/

    It appears that Hillary will be the Democratic candidate and that will merely solidify the Republic split. By 2032, the other side of this 51.6 year wave looks to be a starkly different world. The USA will split and China will become the Financial Capital of the World.

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    xxxxx
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    Here at RPF, we don't promote every conspiracy theory - merely the ones we've been made aware of. If there's anything that Ron Paul followers know, it's that bad things don't just happen; bad things require dark and insidious forces acting in concert and in secret to make them happen.

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    There is nothing less treasonous than wanting to split from America. Ironic, considering the daily attacks from Paulites about the "treasonous" obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 56ktarget View Post
    There is nothing less treasonous than wanting to split from America. Ironic, considering the daily attacks from Paulites about the "treasonous" obama.
    Then explain to us why there exists a formal, US federal government blessed process for renouncing US citizenship.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I'd like to see the demographic of the states too...

    What percentage of their populace sucks the tit has got to play a major factor...
    I have the sneaking suspicion we already know the truth on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    That is a pretty scary statistic for the establishment. I expect it to hit a third in the next 5 years.
    At the rate things are proceeding, in 5 years the question may be moot.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Freedom will be stolen from you in a heartbeat if you do not behave as a wild and ravening beast pursuant to its protection.

    "Government" is naught but a mental construct, a script to which people meekly accept and play out their assigned roles by those with no authority to dictate such.

    Pray for reset.

    We get what we tolerate and we deserve what we get precisely because we tolerate it.

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