Who Are Archangels?

[Ronin Truth]

Question: Who Are Archangels?


Archangels are such powerful spiritual beings that they often capture people’s attention and awe. What are these celestial creatures like?

Answer:

Archangels are the highest-ranking angels in heaven. God gives them the most important responsibilities, and they do their work both in the heavenly dimension and in the earthly one. The word “archangel” is from the Greek words “arche” (ruler) and “angelos” (messenger), signifying archangels’ dual duties. Archangels rule over the universe’s daily operation on missions from God, while also delivering messages from God to human beings.


Archangels in World Religions

Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all give some information about the archangels in their various religious texts and traditions. However, while the different religions all say that archangels are incredibly powerful, they don’t agree on the details of what the archangels are like.

Some religious texts mention just a few archangels by name; others mention more. While religious texts usually refer to archangels as male, that may be just a default way of referring to them. Many people believe that angels don't have a specific gender and can appear to humans in any form they choose, according to what will best accomplish the purpose of each of their missions. Some scriptures imply that that there are too many angels for humans to count. Only God knows how many archangels lead the angels that he has made.

In the Spiritual Realm

In heaven, archangels have the honor of enjoying time in God’s presence. Many people believe that archangels spend their time in heaven praising God and checking in with him often to get new assignments for their work on Earth. Archangels also spend time elsewhere in the spiritual realm fighting evil, say many believers. One archangel in particular -- Michael -- appears to be the head archangel who often takes the lead to battle evil with good, according to accounts in the Torah, Bible, and Qur’an.

On Earth

Believers say that God has assigned guardian angels to protect each individual person on Earth, but he often sends archangels to accomplish earthly tasks of a larger scale. For example, the archangel Gabriel is known for his appearances delivering major messages to people throughout history. Christians believe that God sent Gabriel to inform the Virgin Mary that she would become the mother of Jesus Christ on Earth, while Muslims believe that Gabriel communicated the entire Qur’an to the prophet Muhammad.

Their Names Represent Their Contributions

People have given names to the archangels who have interacted with humans throughout history. Most of the archangels' names end with the suffix "el" ("in God"). Beyond that, each archangel's name has a meaning that signifies the unique type of work that he or she does in the world. For example, archangel Raphael’s name means “God heals,” because God often uses Raphael to deliver healing to people who are suffering spiritually, physically, emotionally, or mentally. Another example is the archangel Uriel’s name, which means “God is my light.” God charges Uriel with shining the light of divine truth on the darkness of people’s confusion, helping them seek wisdom.

Which archangel is your favorite, and why?

http://angels.about.com/od/AngelBasi...Archangels.htm

[Schifference]

An archangel is a mig welder. When trying to fuse two metals together the mig welder/archangel allows a seamless flow due to the presence of gas.

[Ronin Truth]

An archangel is a mig welder. When trying to fuse two metals together the mig welder/archangel allows a seamless flow due to the presence of gas.

Well that's kind of interesting. OFF TOPIC, but interesting none the less. Learn something new every day. Thanks!

[Schifference]

Well that's kind of interesting. OFF TOPIC, but interesting none the less. Learn something new every day. Thanks!

Sorry it was a lame joke. Don't think anyone would call a mig welder an archangel.

[Ronin Truth]

Sorry it was a lame joke. Don't think anyone would call a mig welder an archangel.

Well now I've learned something else new, for today.

How about an arc welder called Hangel?

Thanks!

[Ronin Truth]

Since ancient times the Angels have been venerated with great respect. With the rise of New Age and Occultism comes an urgent need to understand these celestial benefactors in the light of our Catholic faith and tradition.

Angels are pure spirits, sinless servants of God. "Are they not all ministering spirits, sent to minister for them who shall receive the inheritance of salvation?" Heb. 1:13-14. The Angels are comprised of 9 choirs; Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones, Dominions, Powers, Virtues, Principalities, Archangels and Angels.

Particularly powerful are the 7 great Archangels spoken of in Apoc VIII:2 "And I saw 7 Angels standing in the presence of God".

When Luciel (Bearer of Light) rebelled against God and became Lucifer (Prince of Darkness) one entire choir of angels followed him and was lost. Many angels from other choirs also followed him in his rebellion. "And there was a great battle in heaven, Michael and his angels fought with the dragon, and the dragon fought, and his angels: And they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven. And that great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, who is called the devil and satan, who seduceth the whole world; and he was cast unto the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him." Apoc 12:7-9

7 angels from the second lowest choir were so outraged by the terrible offense to the dignity of the Most High they positioned themselves between the Throne of God and the infernal offenders, prepared to defend the honor and dignity of God, in spite of their inferiority to Lucifer and his legions. God was so moved by their heroic love he elevated them, enriching them with many new gifts and graces. So lofty was their new office that they were given the privilege of standing eternally before the Throne of God to carry out the Divine Will. "And from the throne proceeded lightnings and voices and thunders; and there were seven lamps burning before the throne, which are the seven spirits of God." Apoc 4:5. "Bless the Lord all ye His angels: you that are mighty in strength and execute His word, hearkening to the voice of His orders." Ps 102:20

The names of the 3 most commonly invoked Archangels, St. Michael, St. Raphael and St. Gabriel are found in Sacred Scripture. Unlike sects tied to a Bible-only understanding of God and creation we have sacred tradition, the writings of the saints and private revelation to expand our understanding and enlighten us.

In 1050 St. Celias made an exhaustive study of the approved writings of the Early Church Fathers up to the 4th century. In this way we have come to know the names of all 7 of these mighty Archangels, the meaning of their names and the sacrament each is patron of.

Since the 4th century these 7 Archangels have been honored in the Roman Martyrology. In Mettenheim Bavaria is the Catholic Church dedicated to the Seven Great Archangels. It is now over 250 years old. On the 18th of October 1720, this church was dedicated. Each of the 7 Archangels was mentioned by name in the consecration prayer by Rev. Franz Wagensberg, Bishop of Salzberg. Inside the church are 7 altars, each dedicated to one of the Archangels with a statue of the Archangel it was dedicated to. The dedication by a legitimate Catholic Bishop is additional proof of the correctness of the names and an encouragement to active devotion to these angels!

Pope Pius V said in his Bull to the Spanish Clergy, permitting and encouraging the worship of the seven archangels: "One cannot exalt too much these seven rectors of the world, figured by the seven planets, as it is consoling to our century to witness by the grace of God the cult of these seven ardent lights, and of these seven stars reassuming all its luster in the Christian republic." (Les Sept Esprits et l'Histoire de leur Culte; De Mirville's 2nd memoir addressed to the academy. Vol. II. p. 358.)

Michelangelo was ordered to adorn the church dedicated to Mary and the Seven Archangels, with a fresco of 7 Archangels on the altar, in Rome in the 16th century. In addition, the liturgy to Seven Archangels has been confirmed and was still in use around 1800 and has not been abolished, only it is not being practiced.

http://www.7archangels.info/

[Ronin Truth]

Azrael

Archangel of Death
Remember friend, as you pass by.
As you are now, so once was I.
As I am now, you soon shall be.
So, prepare for death, and follow me.

"God is eternal . . . the world is not. And neither are you."


Azrael was one of the first Grigori created, and he was the first to be made an Archangel. Patient, meticulous, soft-spoken, he was so inobtrusive about his work that few of his fellow Archangels could be said to have known him, even before the outcasting of his Choir. The few who did know him knew that in addition to his other qualities, Azrael was above all kind -- one of the gentlest souls in the Seraphim Council.

Shortly after his creation, Azrael was assigned to study a phenomenon not well-understood by Heaven at that time: the disposition of human souls. The angels had long known that some human souls arrived in Heaven, and others did not. Reincarnation and oblivion had been offered as theories, but no one really knew where the "missing" souls were going . . . and the Seraphim Council intuited that following the Fall, this question might be very important. Azrael was given the Word of Death to carry out his duties (angelic Words were much less competitive and assigned with less deliberation in those days).

In his research, Azrael learned how to track human souls after death -- an accomplishment other angels have been unable to duplicate. He confirmed that reincarnation and disbandment both occurred, in some cases. He also discovered that many souls were anchoring themselves to the corporeal plane as ghosts, or to the ethereal plane as dream-shades. Some were drawn into the domains of ethereal spirits -- mostly pagan worshippers.

The greatest revelation was the fate of those humans who were weighed down by their selfishness. They were banished to a nether-realm on the celestial plane. At one time, this had been a bleak and empty place where the dead shuffled forever in miserable isolation. But then the Fallen arrived, and the place became known as Hell. The demons were torturing and sometimes destroying the damned souls confined there, and using them to supply Essence.

This revelation appalled Heaven. Azrael was elevated to the status of Archangel, and given the duty of making sure no souls were misdirected away from Heaven. He and his Servitors would gently separate ghosts and dream-shades from their anchors, retrieve pagan souls from ethereal domains, and prevent the demons from claiming any souls that didn't belong to them.

Azrael was extremely effective at his job. Angels of Death became the bane of pagan gods, and exorcised hundreds of ghosts that had been clinging to the corporeal plane. Azrael instructed his Servitors to also teach humans to accept Death; that it was merely a transition to their next state, and that if they lived their lives well, they had no need to fear it.

But Azrael also began a secret project. He could not accept that those souls damned to Hell must suffer for all eternity for mistakes they'd made in their too-short mortal existences. So the Archangel of Death began ministering to the damned, sneaking into Hell to locate human souls who might be converted to selflessness, and made worthy of Heaven.

Angels of Death were among the least involved with day-to-day mortal existence . . . they visited humans only at the end of their lives. So neither Azrael nor any of his Grigori Servitors were guilty of the crimes that got the rest of his Choir cast out of Heaven. Azrael had allies on the Seraphim Council, and might have been able to exempt himself had he fought the sentence. But Dominic had already begun sniffing around his visits to the infernal realm, just as the Archangel of Death was achieving some success at liberating damned souls from Hell.

Most of the Host believed Azrael declined to appeal for special dispensation out of solidarity with his Choir, and because he was indignant at David's brutal treatment of the Grigori and the humans who'd been fraternizing with them. This was true -- but a more important reason was that Azrael wanted to continue his most important project, and deduced that he would have more freedom to do so as an Outcast. So he left Heaven . . . but never stopped serving God.

The majority of Azrael's Servitors, except his Grigori, transferred to the service of another Archangel. Only a few of his most ardently loyal Servitors refused to leave him. To this day, Azrael is carrying on his work, with the help of a small number of angels who followed him into exile.

The other Archangels know Azrael is still alive, but he is not spoken of in Heaven. It has happened -- a few times in the millenia since the Grigori were cast out -- that an angel has researched Azrael's work, identified strongly with his mission, and sought out the Outcast Archangel of Death. Azrael automatically turns away members of the Host who manage to find him . . . but a very rare few have been persistent and sincere enough to persuade the Archangel of Death to take them into his service. (Azrael only takes in angels who remain dedicated to Heaven, but who also feel a genuine calling to Azrael's mission -- he is not a refuge for dissatisfied Servitors or Outcasts seeking patronage.)

No one knows how many Servitors Azrael still has, but the number is almost certainly below a hundred, and some say he has no more than a dozen followers left. If any of them are Grigori, they stay very well-hidden.

Azrael's Servitors are not true Outcasts, in that they do have Hearts. No one knows where Azrael keeps them -- not even his Servitors. If put into Trauma (or when they ascend to the celestial plane using their Hearts as beacons), they awaken in a dark and silent place, alone with their Heart in what seems to be an endless void. Azrael has no known Tethers.

Azrael and his Servitors do four things now. First, they seek to separate ghosts and dream-shades from their ties to the corporeal or ethereal plane, so these souls will move on to their final destinations. In this capacity, angels of Death search for haunted places on Earth, and often venture into the Far Marches, and the domains of ethereal gods (who regard them as "thieves").

Secondly, they hunt undead and destroy them wherever they are found. When Saminga became the Demon Prince of Death, Azrael was disgusted and appalled. Saminga would love to destroy Azrael, but finds his reclusive and subtle adversary impossible to confront directly.

Third, angels of Death try to reduce humanity's fear of death, reflecting Azrael's Grigori nature. When possible, they try to steer humans near death toward their destiny, and away from their fate, or at least give them a second chance on the wheel of life. In this capacity also, they are implacable enemies of Saminga's Servitors, who promote death as a gruesome, frightening, and evil thing.

Lastly, Azrael continues his mission of ministering to the damned. It's much more dangerous now, and he can only slip into Hell occasionally, meeting those souls that might be found far out on the frontiers of some of the more remote Principalities, like Abaddon and Gehanna. He does not discuss this aspect of his work, and does not generally permit any of his Servitors to join him (though it's rumored that one or two have shared in his salvation efforts). No one knows how many souls he might have saved, or how he removes them from Hell, or where they go after that -- to the Higher Heavens, to another reincarnation, or simply to oblivion -- but he must succeed often enough to keep him going back for more.

http://www.amadan.org/Innomine/Azrael.htm

The whole point of this post is, if Azrael, the angel of death, has the job of keeping track of human incarnations, how can that be if reincarnation does not, in fact, exist?

Smoking gun? I think folks messed with (edited) the BOOK.

[Jamesiv1]

People that disbelieve in "heavenly" creatures I always ask "So you think all these ancient peoples from all over the ancient planet just made all that stuff up?"

Same with the Greek pantheon, same with the Egyptian pantheon, same with all the gods of the semitic peoples like the Sumerians and Babylonians.

I say No Way that they just made it all up. Ancient peoples were not less intelligent than modern - I contend they had better brain power because they did not grow up on Big Macs and fries. That $#@! rots your brain along with preservatives, toxic waist and exhaust fumes.

[Ronin Truth]

People that disbelieve in "heavenly" creatures I always ask "So you think all these ancient peoples from all over the ancient planet just made all that stuff up?"

Same with the Greek pantheon, same with the Egyptian pantheon, same with all the gods of the semitic peoples like the Sumerians and Babylonians.

I say No Way that they just made it all up. Ancient peoples were not less intelligent than modern - I contend they had better brain power because they did not grow up on Big Macs and fries. That $#@! rots your brain along with preservatives, toxic waist and exhaust fumes.

Yeah, I've always had major problems and issues with the whole "HOLY WORD OF GOD" propaganda myth. I think it's just been pretty much a lame attempt to divert and distract embarrassing criticism and questions from predominately and obviously human written folk tales.

Lots of Hindus and Buddhists claim reincarnation is real, with evidence to back it up. It's kinda tough to scare folks with threats of eternal damnation in HELL (BOOGA!, BOOGA!), if we really just keep getting "do overs", until we finally manage to get it right.

Seems like a much more loving Godly approach to me. But what do I know?

[Jamesiv1]

Yeah, I've always had major problems and issues with the whole "HOLY WORD OF GOD" propaganda myth. I think it's just been pretty much a lame attempt to divert and distract embarrassing criticism and questions from predominately and obviously human written folk tales.

Lots of Hindus and Buddhists claim reincarnation is real, with evidence to back it up. It's kinda tough to scare folks with threats of eternal damnation in HELL (BOOGA!, BOOGA!), if we really just keep getting "do overs", until we finally manage to get it right.

Seems like a much more loving Godly approach to me. But what do I know?

I don't know about 'folk tales'... like what for example?

Yes, I am attracted to Hinduism a lot - haven't spent much time on Buddhism. There is a Hare Krishna temple here that I used to spend a lot of time at. Awesome. I really liked it.

My main issue is the fundamentalist types of any faith or religion that say "it's my way or the highway" --- i.e. if you don't do what I do and believe what I believe then you are doomed to spend eternity in the hellfires of damnation lol

Most every path has their fundamentalists so I reckon it's just a human nature thing. But any spiritual path that thinks they have a lock on God and everybody else is screwed just makes me chuckle a little bit.

[otherone]

People that disbelieve in "heavenly" creatures I always ask "So you think all these ancient peoples from all over the ancient planet just made all that stuff up?"

[Jamesiv1]

not sure if you're agreeing with my premise or poking fun lol

Ancient gods of worship and Hollywood stereotypes can't really be put in the same category...

Wikipedia has a pretty good article about leprechauns. this engraving is interesting:



a little hook-nosed guy counting his gold? hmmmm....

[Ronin Truth]

I don't know about 'folk tales'... like what for example?

Yes, I am attracted to Hinduism a lot - haven't spent much time on Buddhism. There is a Hare Krishna temple here that I used to spend a lot of time at. Awesome. I really liked it.

My main issue is the fundamentalist types of any faith or religion that say "it's my way or the highway" --- i.e. if you don't do what I do and believe what I believe then you are doomed to spend eternity in the hellfires of damnation lol

Most every path has their fundamentalists so I reckon it's just a human nature thing. But any spiritual path that thinks they have a lock on God and everybody else is screwed just makes me chuckle a little bit.

Biblical folktales - Google link bomb incoming: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...85.NtSmyIgST3k

Enjoy!

[otherone]

not sure if you're agreeing with my premise or poking fun lol

poking fun. IMO, religion evolved from animism, which is a result of man's proclivity to anthropomorphize his environment.

[Ronin Truth]

poking fun. IMO, religion evolved from animism, which is a result of man's proclivity to anthropomorphize his environment.

Or maybe from ET "GODS from the Sky". At least that's what the first recorded human civilization, Sumerians said.

[otherone]

Or maybe from ET "GODS from the Sky". At least that's what the first recorded human civilization, Sumarians said.

Kudoes on your knowledge of cuneiform.

[Ronin Truth]

Kudoes on your knowledge of cuneiform.

http://www.sitchin.com/

[Ronin Truth]

World of Archangels is a spiritual masterpiece designed by Archangel Uriel that retraces the self-realization process that allows you to interact with some of the most influential Beings in this Universe.

Regardless of who you are, where you come from or what you are doing, this book contains Universal principles that will redefine your spiritual life. The book is filled with Enlightening meditations, Ancient wisdom and uplifting stories of ethereal encounters with the other side. Whether you are a beginner in this field or an old soul wiser than the day, World of Archangels will help you achieve the next level of your spiritual journey.

http://enlightenmentcity.com/world-o...r-command.html

FYI, your guess is probably just as good as mine on this one.

UPDATE: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=enlighcity-20

[Ronin Truth]

Meet Archangel Metatron, the Angel of Life

By Whitney Hopler

Metatron means either "one who guards" or "one serves behind [God’s] throne." Other spellings include Meetatron, Megatron, Merraton , Metaraon , Metatdon, Metatetron, Metathronon , Metattron, Metdatton, Methattron, Methratton, Metratton, Mattatron, and Mitatron.


Main Characteristics:

Metatron is known as the angel of life. He guards the Tree of Life and writes down the good deeds people do on Earth, as well as what happens in heaven, in the Book of Life (which is also known as the akashic record). Metatron is traditionally considered to be the spiritual brother of archangel Sandalphon, and both were humans on Earth before ascending to heaven as angels (Metatron is said to have lived as the prophet Enoch, and Sandalphon as the prophet Elijah. People sometimes ask for Metatron's help to discover their personal spiritual power and learn how to use it to bring glory to God and make the world a better place.

Symbols:

In art, Metatron is often depicted guarding the Tree of Life.
Energy Colors:
Green and pink stripes or blue

Role in Religious Texts:

The Zohar, the holy book of the mystical branch of Judaism called Kabbalah, describes Metatron as "the king of angels" and says that he "rules over the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" (Zohar 49, Ki Tetze: 28:138). The Zohar also mentions that the prophet Enoch has turned into the archangel Metatron in heaven (Zohar 43, Balak 6:86). In the Torah and the Bible, the prophet Enoch lives an extraordinarily long life, and then is taken up into heaven without dying, as most humans do: "All of Enoch’s days were 365 years. Enoch walked with God, and was no more, because God had taken him" (Genesis 5:23-24). The Zohar reveals that God decided to allow Enoch to continue his earthly ministry forever in heaven, describing in Zohar Bere$#@! 51:474 that, on Earth, Enoch was working on a book that contained "the inner secrets of wisdom" and then "was taken from this Earth to become a heavenly angel." Zohar Bere$#@! 51:475 reveals: "All the supernal secrets were delivered into his hands and he, in turn, delivered them to those who merited them. Thus, he performed the mission that the Holy One, blessed be he, assigned to him. One thousand keys were delivered into his hands and he takes one hundred blessings every day and creates unifications for his Master. The Holy One, blessed be He, took him from this world so that he would serve him above. The text [from Genesis 5] refers to this when it reads: 'And he was not; for Elohim [God] took him.'" The Talmud mentions in Hagiga 15a that God allowed Metatron to sit down in his presence (which is unusual because others stood up in God’s presence to express their reverence for him) because Metatron is constantly writing: " ... Metatron, to whom was given permission to sit down and write the merits of Israel."

Other Religious Roles:

Metatron serves as the patron angel of children, because the Zohar identifies him as the angel who led the Hebrew people through the wilderness during the 40 years they spent traveling to the Promised Land. (In Exodus 23:20-21, God tells the Israelites: "See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. Pay attention to him and listen to what he says...". Sometimes Metatron is also linked with Gabriel and Samael, overseeing their work as angels of death when they escort people’s souls from Earth to the afterlife.

http://angels.about.com/od/AngelsRel...l-Metatron.htm

[robert68]

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Lots of Hindus and Buddhists claim reincarnation is real, with evidence to back it up. It's kinda tough to scare folks with threats of eternal damnation in HELL (BOOGA!, BOOGA!), if we really just keep getting "do overs", until we finally manage to get it right.

Seems like a much more loving Godly approach to me. But what do I know?

No souls for the sinners to save, imagine that.

[Ronin Truth]

No souls for the sinners to save, imagine that.

Yeah, if that word gets spread around too much it just might become a major threat and hit to "ye olde revenue and cash flow".

[jmdrake]

http://www.amadan.org/Innomine/Azrael.htm

The whole point of this post is, if Azrael, the angel of death, has the job of keeping track of human incarnations, how can that be if reincarnation does not, in fact, exist?

Smoking gun? I think folks messed with (edited) the BOOK.

Ummmmm....except for your "smoking gun" to be "smoking" someone has to first believe what you have to say about Azrael...which I don't.

[Ronin Truth]

Ummmmm....except for your "smoking gun" to be "smoking" someone has to first believe what you have to say about Azrael...which I don't.

Which part? I'm no expert, but I am curious. Do you also have problems and issues with or about Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael, etc.?

[pcosmar]

http://www.amadan.org/Innomine/Azrael.htm

The whole point of this post is, if Azrael, the angel of death, has the job of keeping track of human incarnations, how can that be if reincarnation does not, in fact, exist?

Smoking gun? I think folks messed with (edited) the BOOK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azrael

Azrael is often identified with the Archangel of Death in some traditions and folklore but not in any religious texts.

None,, as in None.

Several are named directly and particularly in various scripture (and in Enoch),, but nothing of this.

imagination,, it's fine till you confuse it with reality.

[Ronin Truth]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azrael


None,, as in None.

Several are named directly and particularly in various scripture (and in Enoch),, but nothing of this.

imagination,, it's fine till you confuse it with reality.

Do you buy Enoch as becoming Archangel Metatron?

I'm not confused, just posting stuff.

How about Azriel?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Azri...gbv=2&oq=&gs_l=

[jmdrake]

Which part? I'm no expert, but I am curious. Do you also have problems and issues with or about Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael, etc.?

That Azrael was doing research about human reincarnation because nobody in heaven knew what had happened to the "missing souls". Now do I have problems with Michael or Gabriel? No. I don't have a problem with Azrael either. I just don't believe there was some angelic detective/researcher trying to solve the case of the missing souls. That would make interesting fiction though.

[jmdrake]

Do you buy Enoch as becoming Archangel Metatron?

I'm not confused, just posting stuff.

How about Azriel?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Azri...gbv=2&oq=&gs_l=

Change the "t" to a "ge" and you get "Megatron". Hmmmmmm.....

[Ronin Truth]

That Azrael was doing research about human reincarnation because nobody in heaven knew what had happened to the "missing souls". Now do I have problems with Michael or Gabriel? No. I don't have a problem with Azrael either. I just don't believe there was some angelic detective/researcher trying to solve the case of the missing souls. That would make interesting fiction though.

How about if archangels are really just non-supernatural long lived multi-dimensional ETs? I acknowledge that's a bit of a stretch. But who knows?

What is the rational way to deal with the religions of a couple of billion folks who believe reincarnation is real?

[Ronin Truth]

Change the "t" to a "ge" and you get "Megatron". Hmmmmmm.....

Which came first, the archangel or the comic robot?

[pcosmar]

Do you buy Enoch as becoming Archangel Metatron?

No.

I'm not confused, just posting stuff.

I'm pretty sure you are quite confused and are just posting $#@! to confuse and to muddy the waters. (trolling)