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    Obama wants $100K per rebel for training

    Sounds like Obama's stimulus programs. What do those cost? A million dollars per minimum wage job created?

    Senator: Obama wants $100K per rebel

    By Kristina Wong - 09/16/14

    Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) blasted the president's plan to train and arm moderate Syrian opposition forces against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria as Congress prepares for a vote to authorize it.

    He said the plan, which would cost $500 million to train 5,000 rebels for a year, would essentially cost $100,000 per rebel.

    "So that is $100,000 per person that we are supposed to do," he said at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing Tuesday.
    ...
    "And when you start looking at what we've spent, almost $20 billion trying to build up a 280,000-person army in Iraq, and the first time they were tested, they turned tail and ran, turned over the arsenal that we equipped them with, now it's being used against us," he said.

    "The only thing that I know that we are short of is that training and those weapons will probably be used against us at some time in the future if everything that has happened in the past," he added.

    He also said the U.S. has spent enough money and lives in the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars.

    "And then when you look at what we have done in that part of the world ... $1.6 trillion to date and growing; 4,400 lives lost in Iraq; 36,000 wounded; 2,200 lives in Afghanistan and 21,000 wounded," he said.
    ...
    "You can't sell this stuff. And no one believes the outcome will be any different," he said.
    ...
    House and Senate leaders are planning to attach a measure authorizing the plan to a spending bill lawmakers will likely vote on this week before they go on recess. Manchin said lawmakers should stay longer and debate the plan as a separate measure.
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    More:
    http://thehill.com/policy/defense/21...l-says-dem-sen
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    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    So why is the U.S. arming and training terrorists? One would think they would have learned their lesson the last time they did that.

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    100k? what are they being trained to do? How to shoot golden AK47's with silver bullets to hunt werewolves?
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    'Per Rebel' in the Ukraine to fight the; Fascists, Nazis, Zionists, Globalists, & Banksters?

    oh wait...
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    Time to buy stock in Black Wat...er...Xe...no, wait ...Academi. That's the ticket.



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    Spend it while it's still worth something. Some people are getting stinking rich off this administration like never before seen.
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    Politico article makes reference the vote will happen tomorrow.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...99s-Syria-plan
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    No Doubt McCain will vote for it..

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    Damn! At $100,000 per head, one would think we could buy some really good kickass mercenaries for that price. Already trained and housebroken and everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCIndy View Post
    Damn! At $100,000 per head, one would think we could buy some really good kickass mercenaries for that price. Already trained and housebroken and everything.
    No those cost $250,000 / year each and we've already got 50,000 on payroll in Afghanistan

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    So, how does one become a rebel. I'm interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulIsGreat View Post
    So, how does one become a rebel. I'm interested.
    https://www.academi.com/pages/careers

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    That's an awful lot to pay for someone who will probably turn around in a few months and shoot the guys who trained him.
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    Oh...those rebels. For a second I had thought that he had become a liberty president.
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    Ridiculous. I'd prefer that the government gave 5,000 U.S. citizens $100,000 each.
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    It costs just over $20K to outfit a combat infantryman with body armor, night vision, and everything, including a PRC-126 radio.
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

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