The difference between an AnCap society and what we have now

[DevilsAdvocate]

Isn't the difference between an ancap society and the society we have today freedom of movement? Once everybody is free to move around to wherever they like, states will have to compete with each other for the service they provide. They already do in a limited way, especially for rich people with the money and freedom to move.

In fact, I can't imagine an ancap society would look much different than what we have right now, there will still be organizations providing for protection and defense, and it's likely those organizations will have a bill of rights and conditions of membership and enforcement ("laws"). I suppose that a lot of ancap's imagine a system where governing bodies won't be tied down to localized pieces of land, but there's no reason why they couldn't be, if they own the land.

My point is that ancap people should mainly be advocates for freedom of movement between nations. Beyond that things will structure themselves as they will.

[Keith and stuff]

An AnCap society? That sounds like the Porcupine Freedom Festival and nothing else in North America. It is a shame that freedom is so unique to New Hampshire during that one time of the year.

[staerker]

What about taxes/involuntary servitude?

(6) Involuntary servitude
The term “involuntary servitude” includes a condition of servitude induced by means of—
(A) any scheme, plan, or pattern intended to cause a person to believe that, if the person did not enter into or continue in such condition, that person or another person would suffer serious harm or physical restraint

[Keith and stuff]

The Planet Money Podcast presents:
Breakfast At Libertarian Summer Camp
by Robert Smith
July 01, 201112:01 AM ET
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/...an-summer-camp

The episode is 4 and half minutes long. Here is the majority of the article that goes along with it.

Last weekend, a group of libertarians and anarchists gathered in the woods of northern New Hampshire for the annual Porcupine Freedom Festival, aka PorcFest.

I went up for breakfast.

Lucky for me, George Mandrik has brought along 150 lbs. of bacon, which he's selling out of a tent to finance his trip to the festival. He does this thing where he weaves 10 pieces of bacon into what he calls "a little blanket," and cooks the whole thing up.

I tell him that I want to experience a government-free breakfast, and George makes his best pitch.

He tells me proudly that, although he makes his living cooking, he has no permit to sell food. He's never been inspected. And he does not pay taxes.

"I don't want them in my business at all," he says of the government. "If somebody wants to buy my food, it's between me and them."

But of course no government means no official inspection stating that George washes his hands or that he keeps his bacon cold. As I'm asking about food safety, we are interrupted by another customer, who happens to have a handgun strapped to his belt.

"We'll regulate him," he says. "If he poisons me, I won't buy his food. And he'll be done."

The marketplace here is booming. Hundreds of people have shown up to spend the week. Many are drawn here by the Free State Project, which is trying to get libertarian-leaning folks to move to New Hampshire.

You can buy just about anything you want at PorcFest — food, drugs, bootleg cigarettes or alcohol. And you don't even need U.S. government currency to do it.

Someone shows me a cash register stocked with tiny pieces of silver and gold.

Trying to give up the U.S. dollar means a lot of extra math. You hear it all day long. How much is silver? How many grams in an ounce?

It's 8:30 in the morning, in the woods, and people are checking the precious metal prices on their cell phones.

I go directly to the source. Down the hill, Ron Hellwig has set up a bank and a mint on a folding table.

Ron has invented these neat little laminated cards that contain strips of silver. He has basically created a silver-based currency with different denominations — 1 gram, 5 grams, etc.

I give him a $20 bill and get about 10 grams of silver in exchange. Then I head back to George's for a cup of coffee and a bacon-weave omelet. Cost: Five grams of silver.