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    [Video] Rand Paul speaks out against police militarization at senate hearing 9/9/14




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    Sigh at the comments on his FB page...Things like "What are the cops going to do when ISIS is on the streets?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermario21 View Post
    Sigh at the comments on his FB page...Things like "What are the cops going to do when ISIS is on the streets?"
    Pretty sure that's one of the main reasons why America's Founders supported a popular militia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermario21 View Post
    Sigh at the comments on his FB page...Things like "What are the cops going to do when ISIS is on the streets?"
    Was it posted the part time interventionists on our forums? It wouldn't surprise me. They are absolutely TERRIFIED of ISIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermario21 View Post
    Sigh at the comments on his FB page...Things like "What are the cops going to do when ISIS is on the streets?"
    Behead them with bayonets?
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    I just lost it at 3:10 LOL


    Paul: 12,000 bayonets have been given out. What purpose are bayonets being given out for?

    Estevez: Senator, bayonets are available under the program. I can't answer what a local police force would need a bayonet for.

    Paul: I can give you an answer--NONE.

    Estevez: Ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermario21 View Post
    Sigh at the comments on his FB page...Things like "What are the cops going to do when ISIS is on the streets?"
    That's what the 2nd Amendment is for and why private citizens should be armed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    he said "titty"
    It was a nice recovery though.
    *pictures Santorum making the same mistake, getting flustered and turning beet red*
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    This was great, he humiliated them in a clever way.

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    Great job Senator Paul!


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    beautiful. his father's congressional videos were epic, particularly his floor speeches. Rand does well here, the 3:10 mark is great, and I love how he can scold them in a subtle way
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    anyone know if the mrap shootout (mentioned in video) that "saved" police was a drug case?
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    Rand Paul Blasts FEMA! “What purpose are bayonets being given out for?”

    SEPTEMBER 9, 2014

    Senator Rand Paul publicly denounced the militarization of police as a response to the events in Ferguson, Missouri. Paul spoke before a meeting of the Senate Homeland Security Committee at a hearing on Tuesday to ask questions about the type of equipment that local police are attaining from the Department of Defense.

    The Assistant Administrator of FEMA for Grant Programs, Brian Kamoie, responded to Senator Paul that the categories of personal protective equipment for police officers contain a prohibition for the use of riot suppression. Kamoie promised to investigate the incidents in Missouri to determine whether there was a misuse of equipment against civilians.

    Paul appeared angry about the use of MRAP trucks in towns as small as 3,900 people. The Kentucky senator put the FEMA representative and the Obama administration on blast for handing out thousands of bayonets to local police. “What purpose are bayonets being given out for?”

    “I can’t answer what a local police force would use a bayonet for,” Alan Estevez said. “We’re going to look at what we’re providing under the administration’s review of all these programs.”

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    read more:
    http://libertyviral.com/rand-paul-bl...given-out-for/

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    These hearings are so pointless. You never get anything but the run-around. "I'll have to wait to see what the Dept. of Justice finds in their investigation." Then you ask the D.O.J. and they say go ask the people who approve grants.

    That's $#@!ing bureaucracy for you.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    These hearings are so pointless. You never get anything but the run-around. "I'll have to wait to see what the Dept. of Justice finds in their investigation." Then you ask the D.O.J. and they say go ask the people who approve grants.

    That's $#@!ing bureaucracy for you.
    He should be asking, "In your opinion which person should be losing their job for distributing bayonets to police forces?'
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    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    He should be asking, "In your opinion which person should be losing their job for distributing bayonets to police forces?'
    Yeah. Who the hell was the one who made that call? We will never find out, unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashland View Post
    Yeah. Who the hell was the one who made that call? We will never find out, unfortunately.
    Start firing randomly, then the finger pointing will start.

    Its a prisoners dilemma, the bureaucrats have amazing self control. But the moment you start firing people because of something that they know was someone else's fault they will break.
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    He seems to have missed a fine opportunity to pin Estevez's hide to the barn door. At the beginning Paul cited that military equipment was to be used strictly for counter-terrorism. Later, Estevez cites drug trade as a permitted use and Paul let it pass. It can be difficult to see every opportunity in real time, but this could have been very interesting had Paul pressed Estevez for an explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by surf View Post
    anyone know if the mrap shootout (mentioned in video) that "saved" police was a drug case?
    Anyone know if the mrap shootout that "saved" police ever even happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    He seems to have missed a fine opportunity to pin Estevez's hide to the barn door. At the beginning Paul cited that military equipment was to be used strictly for counter-terrorism. Later, Estevez cites drug trade as a permitted use and Paul let it pass. It can be difficult to see every opportunity in real time, but this could have been very interesting had Paul pressed Estevez for an explanation.
    Paul called him on that at @4:48



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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    he said "titty"
    where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    where?
    @2:33-2:34

    And im juvenile enough to suggest that somebody autotune that.



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