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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Wrong, it's no big deal and nothing new. He is eluding to the fact that it was an intelligence failure, not a conspiracy.
    LOL....conspiracy? Is this the place to hang with the conspiracy freaks?



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    Ah yes, to some its the child who can do no wrong. Thankfully they have a shroud to protect themselves, at least long enough to get away with whatever they're doing. Terrorists - the fascist's best friend.


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    I'm sure that the neocon wing will have a full court press to keep a lid on the 28 pages. Because, if the 28 pages get released, there goes Jeb Bush's hopes in 16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnyman View Post
    LOL....conspiracy? Is this the place to hang with the conspiracy freaks?

    Oh, look, it's another troll I get to neg rep. If you check "Ronnyman's" posts, then it looks like he is just seeking posts where he can troll. Like these:



    Knowing mitrosky....he probably gave the cops a load of crap too because he hates all Feds and cops.

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    people just need to deal with it...theres a reason the laws are in place.....for our safety.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnyman View Post


    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    From memory,the thing that irked Ron was that no blame was placed: As a former airforce officer,the fact that many in the chain were promoted rather than court martialled seemed odd to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Thank you. I believe that you are largely correct. Personally, I come down heavier on MIHOP "inside job" side of the issue. Who knows.....yet?
    Some people LIHOP and some MIHOP. It was a combination of both.
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    There's this video from last year, where he continues on the government commissions are designed to deceive to the people idea:


    Which, I agree with of course. Knowing my government, and how they will propagandize ANYTHING for political purposes, and the media reads the teleprompters like the good puppets they are, I have no doubt the 9/11 Commission (Fraud) Report committee withheld information and didn't put in all information. We know for a fact they withheld information from the report, just with the 28 classified pages, and I can only imagine what wasn't in the report that was buried, destroyed, and erased.



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    For the sake of completeness, here is what Ron Paul said when asked to clarify his position:

    "I have never changed my position on 9/11, and I do not accuse the government of planning or knowing about 9/11 beforehand. I think what you will find is that government commissions tend to protect government incompetence, and that perhaps the government should have been able to put the intelligence pieces together prior to the attack. I have always advocated for transparency in government, which is why I believe the full 9/11 Commission Report should be declassified so the American people can read it for themselves. "
    Source:http://rare.us/story/ron-paul-im-not-a-911-truther/
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    Ron Paul on 9/11: “I Believe That If We Ever Get The Full Truth, We’ll Find Out That Our Government Had It In The Records Exactly What The Plans Were, Or At Least Close To It”

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    Cui bono?
    The million dollar question that the usual suspects don't want answered.
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    So, Ron Paul said
    “I Believe That If We Ever Get The Full Truth, We’ll Find Out That Our Government Had It In The Records Exactly What The Plans Were, Or At Least Close To It”
    And when asked to clarify that statement, he explained
    "I have never changed my position on 9/11, and I do not accuse the government of planning or knowing about 9/11 beforehand. "
    "Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand." - John Adams

    "He is the best friend to American liberty, who is most sincere and active in promoting true and undefiled religion, and who sets himself with the greatest firmness to bear down on profanity and immorality of every kind." - John Witherspoon


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    I'm sure he's talking about Able Danger. I've always believed this version as well. http://historycommons.org/timeline.j.../11=abledanger

    In a nutshell: Able Danger was a unit charged with collecting data on terrorist suspects, namely OBL and his gang, starting in 1998. As they got closer to suspecting a terrorist act in the U.S., federal agents confiscated their info, and the CIA and FBI were not permitted to share info with each other. Several whistleblowers from Able Danger came forward to state that their investigation was quelled.

    Notice how not many people know about this? It's because the media is complicit in the cover-up. Our glorious government knew we were going to be attacked and let it happen.
    This could perhaps explain why:

    http://www.okcbombing.net/News%20Art...rist_motel.htm
    If this recollection is correct, the entire incident, and its absence from the public record, raises new questions about the FBI investigation of Moussaoui and even the 1995 destruction of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Already the FBI has endured a withering political and media critique for failing to aggressively investigate Moussaoui and his contacts during his four weeks in custody prior to the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Some FBI officials have responded by characterizing Moussaoui as only a minor player. But the report from the motel owner, if proven, could change that. And it also could force the FBI to reopen its investigation of Middle Eastern connections to the 1995 Oklahoma City blast, because convicted bombers Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols reportedly stayed at the same motel, interacting with a group of Iraqis during the weeks before the bombing.
    As for the terrorists who took part in 9/11, Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi visited the Airman Flight School in Norman in July 2000, according to the Moussaoui indictment. (The motel owner identifies al-Shehhi as the third person with Atta and Moussaoui when they allegedly inquired about a room.) And on April 1, 2001, Nawaf al-Hazmi, who helped hijack American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon, was stopped for speeding in Oklahoma and given two tickets. The Oklahoma state trooper found no outstanding warrants and turned al-Hazmi loose. The media has since reported that the CIA had been tracking al-Hazmi, but never told the immigration service or the FBI that he was a suspected terrorist during his 21-month U.S. stay. Authorities have never publicly accounted for Atta and al-Shehhi's whereabouts during the time of the alleged motel encounter.
    http://911blogger.com/node/15075
    The man in the truck with McVeigh has been identified as Hussain al-Hussaini and was seen at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in the truck by six witnesses to the scene. Al-Hussaini was named as John Doe#2 by local TV station KFOR and had to flee the state. He later returned to press a suit of defamation against Jayna Davis and KFOR, but his suit was dismissed and his alibi for that day has been proven a lie.

    In The Third Terrorist, Jayna Davis documents that al-Hussaini later went on to work at Boston’s Logan Airport as a baggage handler, and was there the day of the 9/11 attacks. Lead Hijacker Mohammed Atta’s flight took off from Logan Airport that morning while his baggage later went on a different flight, to be captured by the FBI with its incriminating “last will and testament” inside. Al-Hussaini’s whereabouts these days are unknown.
    http://deadlinelive.info/2011/09/09/...fully-ignored/
    And many more sources, that a quick search will reveal.
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