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    U.S. Army Plans to Battle Anti-Government Dissidents in “Megacities”

    U.S. Army Plans to Battle Anti-Government Dissidents in “Megacities”
    Future operations will neutralize groups which 'undermine the authority of the state'


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    by Paul Joseph Watson | September 2, 2014

    The U.S. Army is preparing to fight political dissidents who challenge the power of the state as “megacities” become the battleground of the future, according to a new report in the Army Times.

    The article details how the Army’s Capabilities Integration Center (ARCIC) worked with US Army Special Operations Command, the chief of staff’s Strategic Studies Group and the UK’s Ministry of Defence earlier this year to wargame the future of armed combat, which will revolve around the neutralization of groups “who can influence the lives of the population while undermining the authority of the state,” a chillingly vague description which could easily be applied to political dissidents.

    The plan foresees an unprecedented realignment of U.S. military strategy focused around putting “boots on the ground” in megacities to deal with “politically dispossessed” populations while relying on “more lethal and more autonomous” methods.

    “It is inevitable that at some point the United States Army will be asked to operate in a megacity and currently the Army is ill-prepared to do so,” asserted a report by Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno’s Strategic Studies Group, while Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster warned that the Army will increasingly have to expand its presence to battle an enemy which operates in “other contested spaces like organized crime and politics.”

    The report also notes how the Army will utilize directed energy weapons which “would allow U.S. to have direct-fire capabilities with significant logistics reduction, and to counter enemy long-range missile capability.”

    The article also cites a recent report by the Australian Army which identifies the fact that “these cities represent the battlefields of the future.”

    Confirmation that the U.S. Army is preparing to fight disaffected groups and individuals who attempt to ‘undermine the authority of the state’, which could apply to a whole host of perfectly legal political activities, is particularly concerning given the recent militarized police response to unrest in Ferguson, Missouri.

    A 2012 study by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism at the University of Maryland which was funded by the Department of Homeland Security lists Americans who are “reverent of individual liberty” and “suspicious of centralized federal authority” alongside violent terrorist groups.

    Continued...
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    Yikes
    Non-violence is the creed of those that maintain a monopoly on force.

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    So does that mean it is no longer patriotic to disagree with an administration?
    "The Patriarch"

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    Probably why I don't live in a city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    So does that mean it is no longer patriotic to disagree with an the last two administrations?

    FIFY
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    FIFY
    Typical woman........
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    So does that mean it is no longer patriotic to disagree with an administration?
    ... 'undermine the authority of the state'
    It shows once they have power, they are unwilling to give up that power. They will protect that power by any means necessary. This is Totalitarian. Total Control. And any who oppose their Total Control is a threat to "the authority of the state". It doesnt matter if the power is usurped or voted, whether it is lawful or unlawful, they will not give up that power.

    It seems that even speaking out against specific actions is enough to get us labeled as "Enemy of the State". It is why Anonimity is so preciously important in maintaining balance. When things are this out of balance, Privacy becomes a threat to the Power of the State. Total Awareness gives them the ability to come after you before you go after them, even if your intentions are peaceful.

    The longer we continue down this path, the harder it will be to ever have a chance at restoring Freedom to the people. Perhaps by showing people what threats do exist as a consequence of giving up their freedoms is the only possible way for people to understand how important freedom really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Typical woman........
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    I somehow imagined that these mega cities would not be bastions of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I somehow imagined that these mega cities would not be bastions of liberty.
    Now where would you get an idea like that?
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Now where would you get an idea like that?
    I like to think of it as 'gifted" .

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    So much for Posse Comitatus.

    I think I'll put this here:

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    •City of Chicago
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    •Corpus Christi Police Department
    After all, they'll need a place to put the "dissidents in the 'megacities'".
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I somehow imagined that these mega cities would not be bastions of liberty.
    Didn't you watch Judge Dredd?

    In Dredd backstory, the megacities formed out of growing urbanisation and reached crisis point in 2027, forcing the United States to impose an "instant justice" form of law enforcement.[4] This was widely copied by the foreign megacities,[5] which included the Union of Soviet Mega-Cities, the European City-States, Brit-Cit, and the Sino Block by 2070.[6] During the run of Dredd, eight cities have been destroyed.


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    So? The military has contingency plans for all sort of scenarios, this is just one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    So? The military has contingency plans for all sort of scenarios, this is just one.
    We're talking about a "contingency plan" by the military to operate in American cities and kill Americans... and you don't have a problem with that? Been here for three years, and no problem with that. A little slow to catch on, are we?
    Be careful when you pry my gun from my cold dead hands, the barrel will be hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    So? The military has contingency plans for all sort of scenarios, this is just one.
    What about Posse Comitatus?
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!



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    So did they mention how they planned to get those dissidents into the megacities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    So? The military has contingency plans for all sort of scenarios, this is just one.
    Just one contingency plan below. No big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    What about Posse Comitatus?
    Posse Comitatus is just a word, they have guns and bombs.
    "One thing my years in Washington taught me is that most politicians are followers, not leaders. Therefore we should not waste time and resources trying to educate politicians. Politicians will not support individual liberty and limited government unless and until they are forced to do so by the people," says Ron Paul."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZENemy View Post
    Posse Comitatus is just a word, they have guns and bombs.
    It used to mean the federal gov't was limited in its scope with regard to attacking Americans. Which is why I believe the only thing between us and total tyranny is our personal weaponry. It's what's causing them to do this incrementally. But, someday there will be a flashpoint. And it behooves all of us to be ready for it.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    So did they mention how they planned to get those dissidents into the megacities?
    Well Doc , my guess would be they have them lined up for food , water etc

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    I somehow doubt the dissidents will be in large numbers in the cities.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I somehow doubt the dissidents will be in large numbers in the cities.....
    Your average sleeping citizen will become a "dissident" in a matter of days - once the shelves at the stores go empty. Every country that has had an economic collapse is followed by a social collapse. We're not immune.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    Your average sleeping citizen will become a "dissident" in a matter of days - once the shelves at the stores go empty. Every country that has had an economic collapse is followed by a social collapse. We're not immune.
    That is certain , they would have to feed them or fight them .



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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    That is certain , they would have to feed them or fight them .
    True. And either way, they win. Which is why those of us who see the handwriting on the wall, have our work cut out for us.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chudrockz View Post
    We're talking about a "contingency plan" by the military to operate in American cities and kill Americans... and you don't have a problem with that? Been here for three years, and no problem with that. A little slow to catch on, are we?
    No, I don't have a problem with that.

    It's a just contingency, it doesn't mean they will do it. You never know what the future could bring. What if half the population decided join a terrorist organization but retained american citizenship? There are all sort of far fetched situation where the military might have to operate in a city.

    The government has contingency plans in place for all sort of off the wall situations including attacks on allies.

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    Im sure the next step is to diagnose all these people with Adult ADHD, which means they have trouble "concentrating", so they should all be sent to "concentration camps"!

    When peaceful change becomes impossible, violent change becomes inevitable.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    That is certain , they would have to feed them or fight them .
    They are already feeding them. EBT and food stamps. Bread and circuses.
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    When will they rename DHS to the Ministry of Love?
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    When will they rename DHS to the Ministry of Love?
    When they officially connect it to the welfare system.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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