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    Fluoride is Classified as a Neurotoxin

    While the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) would have us all believe that fluoride is perfectly innocuous and safe, scientists from the EPA's National Health and Environmental Effects Research Laboratory have classified fluoride as a "chemical having substantial evidence of developmental neurotoxicity".2Consistent with the EPA's conclusion, a continually growing body of human and animal research strongly suggests that fluoride can damage the developing brain.
    Consider for example:

    • 24 studies have now reported an association between fluoride exposure and reduced IQ in children
    • Three studies have reported an association between fluoride exposure and impaired neurobehavioral development
    • Three studies have reported damage to the brain of aborted fetuses in high fluoride areas, and
    • Over 100 laboratory studies have reported damage to the brain and/or cognitive function among fluoride-exposed animals3.

    Most of the 30 studies linking fluoride to reduced IQ, impaired neurobehavioral development, and fetal brain damage have come from China where fluoride occurs at moderate to high levels in the drinking water in what is known as "endemic areas for fluorosis." While there have been shortcomings in the methodologies of some of these studies, they have been remarkably consistent in their findings. Children exposed to excessive fluoride have been consistently observed to suffer from some form of neurological impairment.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...of-safety.aspx



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    In b4 all the people with Stockholm syndrome.
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    Flourine is one bad ass kick butt chemical.

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    24 studies have now reported an association between fluoride exposure and reduced IQ in children
    The "studies" looked at data in China and were not controlled. They compared flouride useage in water with student's IQs. The differences found were actually less (about three points) than the differences one could find by testing the exact same person on different days- it was not a statistically significant difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The "studies" looked at data in China and were not controlled. They compared flouride useage in water with student's IQs. The differences found were actually less (about three points) than the differences one could find by testing the exact same person on different days- it was not a statistically significant difference.

    While there have been shortcomings in the methodologies of some of these studies, they have been remarkably consistent in their findings.
    are you denying that fluoride is a Neurotoxin? Or are you waiting for someone to do human testing on the different levels to make sure we have a spreadsheet that tells us that it causes brain damage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The "studies" looked at data in China and were not controlled. They compared flouride useage in water with student's IQs. The differences found were actually less (about three points) than the differences one could find by testing the exact same person on different days- it was not a statistically significant difference.
    ^^^this goes here...^^^

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    as an American, I have a real problem with forced medication.
    there are lots of arguments that go both ways on this subject. if you believe ingesting this stuff is good for you fine, same with all other drugs imho.

    mass medicating the populace is wrong. good intentions or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HVACTech View Post
    as an American, I have a real problem with forced medication.
    there are lots of arguments that go both ways on this subject. if you believe ingesting this stuff is good for you fine, same with all other drugs imho.

    mass medicating the populace is wrong. good intentions or not.
    I think you hit the nail on the head.

    On the one hand, we have people being locked up and imprisoned for voluntarily taking a drug that they want and believe helps them.
    On the other hand, we have people being locked up and imprisoned for refusing to voluntarily take a drug that they don't want and believes hurts them.

    Forced medication deserves to be a part of the debate.

    If you actually do the math on the amount of people being locked up and imprisoned over just the issue of drugs, you won't get the correct answer unless you include the 2 million people who are involuntarily institutionalized every year for the simple fact that they "just said no" to drugs.

    There is another prison system in this country that no body talks about. What goes on in those prisons is a secret and those who do eventually get out are literally LITERALLY too brain washed to give an account of their experiences.

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    This is not "forced medication". Maybe it is an example of corporatism because I do know that in some cases, "flouride" coming from industrial waste was being put into water. The pro-flouride conspiracy crowd has never even demonstrated what flouride does to people that would be so beneficial to a government. Even if it is a strong neurotoxin, show me the evidence that it hurts brain function in the exact way that makes people submissive to authority or whatever you want to believe.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    This is not "forced medication".
    I live in Hot Springs AR. I can avoid the... "unforced" medication. which word offended thou?
    forced or medication?

    ps,
    thank you for caring SO much about my tooths.
    Last edited by HVACTech; 09-02-2014 at 08:42 PM.
    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by HVACTech View Post
    I live in Hot Springs AR. I can avoid the... "unforced" medication. which word offended thou?
    forced or medication?

    ps,
    thank you for caring SO much about my tooths.
    Sorry, I've been hanging out too much in loony land where people think that it is forced medication that is intentionally mind-altering. I'd personally rather it not be put in water either.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    This is not "forced medication". Maybe it is an example of corporatism because I do know that in some cases, "flouride" coming from industrial waste was being put into water. The pro-flouride conspiracy crowd has never even demonstrated what flouride does to people that would be so beneficial to a government. Even if it is a strong neurotoxin, show me the evidence that it hurts brain function in the exact way that makes people submissive to authority or whatever you want to believe.
    It is actually mandated poisoning of the masses:

    Hydrofluosilicic Acid (HFSA)

    Hydrofluorosilicic Acid, also known as FSA or HFS, is a transparent, colorless, aqueous solution that is used in a variety of applications. One of its most common uses is in the fluoridation of water. FSA is produced during the concentration of phosphoric acid in an evaporation process unique to the phosphate industry.
    Corrosive to the skin, eyes and mucous membranes through direct contact, inhalation or ingestion. May cause severe irritation and burns, which may not be immediately apparent. Handle with extreme care.
    MSDS:

    http://www.mosaicco.com/images/Hydro...DS_03Jan14.pdf
    http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/content/.../201154pis.pdf

    Sodium Fluoride (NaF)

    Sodium fluoride is an inhibitor of serine/threonine phosphatases.2,3 NaF is also an activator of G proteins.4,5 NaF has been shown to induce endothelial cell dysfunction, as indicated by increased albumin permeability and decreased transcellular electrical resistance.6 Sodium fluoride is also widely studied in bone and dental research.
    For Laboratory Use Only. Not for drug, household or other uses.
    SIGNALWORD: POISON

    Skull and Crossbones [GHS06] Acute toxicity (oral, dermal, inhalation), categories 1,2,3
    The substance may be toxic to kidneys, lungs, the nervous system, heart, gastrointestinal tract, cardiovascular system, bones, teeth. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage. Repeated exposure to a highly toxic material may produce general deterioration of health by an accumulation in one or many human organs.
    Precautions:
    Do not ingest. Do not breathe dust. In case of insufficient ventilation, wear suitable respiratory equipment. If ingested, seek medical advice immediately and show the container or the label. Avoid contact with skin and eyes. Keep away from incompatibles such as oxidizing agents, metals, acids, alkalis.

    Waste Disposal:
    Waste must be disposed of in accordance with federal, state and local environmental control regulations.

    DOT Classification: CLASS 6.1: Poisonous material.

    Toxicity to Animals: Acute oral toxicity (LD50): 52 mg/kg [Rat].

    Chronic Effects on Humans:
    CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: A4 (Not classifiable for human or animal.) by ACGIH, 3 (Not classifiable for human.) by IARC. MUTAGENIC EFFECTS: Mutagenic for mammalian somatic cells. Mutagenic for bacteria and/or yeast. May cause damage to the following organs: kidneys, lungs, the nervous system, heart, gastrointestinal tract, cardiovascular system, bones, teeth.

    Other Toxic Effects on Humans:
    Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of eye contact (corrosive), of ingestion, of inhalation. Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (corrosive).

    Special Remarks on Chronic Effects on Humans:
    May cause adverse reproductive effects (fertililty, fetoxicity), and birth defects based on animal data. May cause cancer based on animal data. May cause genetic (mutagenic) and tumorigenic effects.

    Special Remarks on other Toxic Effects on Humans:
    Acute Potential Health Effects: Skin: Causes skin irritation and possible burns, especially if skin is wet or moist. Eyes: Causes eye irritation and burns. May cause chemical conjunctivitis and corneal damage. Ingestion: Harmful if swallowed. Causes digestive (gastrointestinal) tract irritation and burns. May cause severe and permanent damage to the digestive. Ingestion of large amounts may cause salivation, thirst, nausea, vomiting, hypermotility, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. May affect behavior/central nervous system/nervous system (headache, nervousness, dizziness, seizures, convulsions, tremor, muscle weakness, somnolence), respiration (respiratory depression, dyspnea), cardiovascular system (weak pulse, hypotension, dysrhythmias, cardiac arrest), liver, urinary system (polyuria, polydypsia) brain, metabolism (loss of appetite, hypcalcemia, hyperkalemia, hypomagnesia, ), teeth, bones, and blood (changes in red and white blood cell count, interference in blood coagulation) Inhalation: Causes irritation and chemical burns of the respiratory tract with coughing, breathing difficulty and possibly nasal septum perforation and coma. May affect bones. Chronic Potential Heath Effects: Chronic ingestion may cause fluorosis. Effects of fluorisis may include joint pain, weakness, limited joint mobility, brittle bones, ossifications on x-ray, thickening of long bone cortices, calcificaiton of ligaments, osteomalacia, osteosclerosis (skeletal (bone and teeth) abnormalties) and mottled tooth enamel. Other symptoms may include anemia, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea or constipation, kidney damage and weight loss/anorexia. Chronic inhalation may cause bronchitis to develop with cough, phlegm, and/or shortness of breath. , liver (hepatic enzymes increased, jaundice), .
    MSDS:
    http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927595
    http://msds.orica.com/pdf/shess-en-c...0031020001.pdf

    A3 Confirmed animal carcinogen with unknown relevance to humans: The agent is carcinogenic in experimental animals at a relatively high dose, by route(s) of administration, at site(s), of histologic type(s), or by mechanism(s) that may not be relevant to worker exposure. Available epidemiologic studies do not confirm an increased risk of cancer in exposed humans. Available evidence does not suggest that the agent is likely to cause cancer in humans except under uncommon or unlikely routes or levels of exposure.

    A4 Not classifiable as a human carcinogen: Agents which cause concern that they could be carcinogenic for humans but which cannot be assessed conclusively because of a lack of data. In vitro or animals studies do not provide indications of carcinogenicity which are sufficient to classify the agent into one of the other categories.
    http://www.crios.be/general_classification/ACGIH.htm

    Calicium Fluoride (CaF2)

    Calcium fluoride is a mineral composed of CaF2. It occurs as cubic, isometric crystals and cleavable masses. When pure, it is colorless and transparent, or translucent with a glassy luster. Impurities cause color in the stone, and several varieties exhibit fluorescence. Usually found either in pure veins or associated with lead, silver, or zinc ores, it is common in limestone and dolomites. Fluorite occurs in England and the United States.
    Calcium fluoride is used as component of electrolyte, fluxing agent for aluminum metallurgy. It is used in glass and fluorescent lamps industry. It has dental applications.
    http://www.reade.com/products/21-flu...cium-fluoride-

    Chronic Effects on Humans:
    DEVELOPMENTAL TOXICITY: Classified Development toxin [POSSIBLE]. May cause damage to the following organs: blood, kidneys, lungs, liver, cardiovascular system, skin, bones, central nervous system (CNS), teeth.

    Other Toxic Effects on Humans:
    Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of ingestion, of inhalation.

    Special Remarks on Chronic Effects on Humans:
    May affect genetic material (mutagenic). May cause adverse reproductive effects and birth defects (teratogenic) based on animal test data.

    Special Remarks on other Toxic Effects on Humans:
    Acute Potential Health Effects: Skin: May cause skin irritation. Eyes: May cause eye irritation. Inhalation: Causes respiratory tract irritation. Ingestion: May cause gastrointestinal irritaiton with nausea, vomiting and diarrhea, salivation, thirst, abdominal pain, fever, labored breathing (respiratory depression, apnea, dyspnea). Exposure to fluorides may also cause disturbed color vision, hypocalcemia, hyperkalemia, and hypomagnesemia, and may result in systemic toxic effects on the heart/ cardiovascular system (hypotension, tachycardia, arrhythmia, weak pulse, cardiovascular collapse), liver (hepatic enzymes increased), and kidneys (abnormal renal function, renal damage). It may also affect behavior/Central Nervous System (CNS depression - headache, dizziness, weakness, somnolence, ataxia, loss of conciousness). Other neurological symptoms of acute fluoride ingestion may include muscle weakness, difficulty speaking, fitfulness(hyperreflexia), tetany, numbness or tingling of the extremities. Chronic Potential Health Effects: Skin: Prolonged or repeated skin contact may cause dermatitis. Inhalation: Prolonged or repeated inhalation may cause bronchitis, asmtha, silicosis, increase in respiratory infections, pulmonary lesions. Ingestion: Prolonged or repeated ingestion cause diseases of the blood, teeth, bones and other organs (osteosclerosis, fluorosis). (Fluorisis is characterized by vomiting, diarrhea or constipation, weakness joint stiffness, loss of appetite, anemia).
    MSDS:

    http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927120


    The CDC' take:

    NSF/ANSI Standards for Drinking Water Additives
    The NSF/ANSI standard 60 limits a chemical or product's contribution of contaminants to drinking water applications. Standard 60 provides for product purity and safety assurance that aim to prevent adding harmful levels of contaminants from chemicals and water treatment additives.

    Measured Levels of Impurities
    Fluoride additives are analyzed for impurities that have been identified as having the potential to occur. Those impurities include arsenic, lead, and radionuclides. . . . Consumers sometimes raise concerns about arsenic in drinking water and the fact that fluoride additives may contain some arsenic. The EPA allowable criterion for arsenic consumption in drinking water is 10 parts per billion.

    FDA Regulatory Criteria for Fluoride
    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) does not regulate additives to community drinking water, because its regulatory reach concerns the safety and efficacy of food, drugs, or cosmetic-related products. Because the FDA has authority over bottled water as a consumer beverage (Federal Register, Volume 44, No. 141, July 20, 1979), they do regulate the intentional addition of fluoride to bottled water and requires labeling identifying the additive used. Bottlers typically use NSF/ANSI Standard 60-certified fluoride product.

    In 2006, the FDA announced that bottled water with greater than 0.6 and up to 1.0 mg/L could be labeled with the statement "Drinking fluoridated water may reduce the risk of tooth decay." Questions About Bottled Water and Fluoride provides additional information on FDA requirements. Fluoride in bottled water that is marketed as a consumer beverage is also included.

    The FDA also regulates fluoride in over-the-counter drug products, such as toothpaste and mouthwash, and in prescription items, such as fluoride supplements and professional-strength gels and foams. The FDA does not have criteria on allowable impurities in sodium fluoride or fluorosilicates products.

    Fluoride Additives Are Not Different From Natural Fluoride
    Some consumers have questioned whether fluoride from natural groundwater sources, such as calcium fluoride, is better than fluorides added "artificially," such as FSA or sodium fluoride. Two recent scientific studies listed below demonstrate that the same fluoride ion is present in naturally occurring fluoride or fluoride drinking water additives and that no intermediates or other products were observed at pH levels as low as 3.5. In addition, fluoride metabolism is not affected differently by the chemical compounds nor are they affected by whether the fluoride is present naturally or artificially.
    http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/fact...itives.htm#a10
    http://www.nsf.org/newsroom_pdf/NSF_...uoridation.pdf

    Further information: http://www.waterloowatch.com/
    Last edited by Weston White; 09-03-2014 at 09:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston White View Post
    It is actually mandated poisoning of the masses:
    I just object to some people's perception of the motives behind this. Let's focus on HSFA, the primary fluoridation chemical. It is industrial waste and therefore certain corporations love the ability to sell their garbage to the government for $$$. There is really no reason why we should be drinking fluoride but the corporate-controlled government of course wants an excuse to sell it. I don't believe there is proof that pure HSFA is chemically any worse of a fluoridation chemical than others but the industrial waste HSFA has been shown to have arsenic and other poison in it. Drinking tap water with fluoride probably won't do much to you but it is better to avoid, not only for the fluoride but also the arsenic that often accompanies it.
    Last edited by Anti-Neocon; 09-06-2014 at 10:23 AM.
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