Your thoughts on "ISIS" in Juarez, MX and calls of violence coming..

[Captain Shays]

My thoughts? If they are here kill every one of them. I also want to kill them everywhere they exist.

[presence]

If ISIS manages to make a major attack in the US I bet you Israel and Saudi Arabia will be in on it and the FBI and NSA release 28 redacted pages to explain what really happened.

[Ender]

My thoughts? BS.

Same propaganda $#@!e that was used to pass PA I & II.

If there was really a threat the borders would be closed and military deployed there.

[qh4dotcom]

It's extremely plausible that IS could walk across the border and commit acts of terror in retaliation for being bombed.

Give anyone who wants to work here a green card, make them pay taxes and give them no entitlements until citizenship.

I can live with militarizing the border. Better to use our military to guard ours than the one between Syria and Iraq.

IS isn't going to invade the US, anyone that believes that is looney tunes. But they are well financed, disciplined and ruthless, they could kill a lot of people here.

What are the chances that ISIS will come to the city where you live?

[pcosmar]

What are the chances that ISIS will come to the city where you live?

None.

I don't live in or near a city.

[Brett85]

They've already militarized them.

Perhaps you've missed the American citizens traveling through a checkpoint to go to and from work and the Constitution free zones allowing the searching of, including but not limited to, American anuses, and seizing of, including but not limited to their vehicles and time?

You are calling for a further militarization, though, correct? Something akin to the harbor of Boston or say, the Baghdad 'Vatican'?

I am certain nothing could ever go wrong with the implementation of such a concept. Or is it that you are aware that indeed, (inevitably and quite predictably), something is wrong and would go wrong with such a concept but that you believe that cracking some eggs to fry up up one nationalistic omelet is necessary to ensure freedom? Because if indeed that is what you are offering, and it's pretty clear what you are offering (no matter how shorted-sighted and naive you appear to be), I'd offer you the point that those proposing big government increases in other areas offer the same sorts of 'solutions' founded upon the same sorts of 'principles' as you do (it's almost as if human fears could be studied and played upon using propagandized tactics). And when in 20 years your 'solutions' are utter disasters against fry reedom, perhaps your children will seek to repeal them. But in the mean time, all is well. One more brick in the wall. Quite literally, at that.

I'm not in favor of check points 100 miles from the border. I'm just in favor of putting our military right on the border, to keep people from coming here illegally.

[dannno]

We need to militarize the borders. It's better to use our military for actual national defense than use them to police the world.

Ya, we need a military to defend us from the CIA, great idea

[DP714]

They'd get mowed down in a second. I doubt even Boobus would wait for jackboots to arrive before shooting back at those punks. I doubt even he would believe any such rag tags could make it that close to the mainland without significant help from someone somewhere near D.C., just waiting for the news of "the attack" to be broadcasted before quickly getting Part 2 of the Patriot Act passed...But then again, crazier $#@! has been widely accepted without question before so who knows..

[69360]

What are the chances that ISIS will come to the city where you live?

Define city. By most definitions the nearest one is over 100 miles from here. By choice too.

So just about zero.

[69360]

They'd get mowed down in a second. I doubt even Boobus would wait for jackboots to arrive before shooting back at those punks. I doubt even he would believe any such rag tags could make it that close to the mainland without significant help from someone somewhere near D.C., just waiting for the news of "the attack" to be broadcasted before quickly getting Part 2 of the Patriot Act passed...But then again, crazier $#@! has been widely accepted without question before so who knows..

Nobody thinks IS is going to invade the US with conventional ground forces. They would walk across the border or fly in with western passport and commit a terrorist attack.

[tod evans]

Nobody thinks IS is going to invade the US with conventional ground forces. They would walk across the border or fly in with western passport and commit a terrorist attack.

I'm not willing to forego freedom and liberty in exchange for protection.

Americans are just as fed up with government as the foreigners are.

The answer isn't more government.

Do yourself a favor and reject the MSM and their propaganda.

[bolil]

I am not afraid of ISIS. I live in Chicago, one of their purported targets, and I'll tell you what: If I get blown up, don't use my corpse as an excuse for anything- that means you 69. America, stop being so puss-puss. If they attack (whoever they really are) well, then, welcome to the world America, it is a dangerous place. Made moreso when you bomb the $#@! out of people. LOL, do your worst you Islamic retards.

[twomp]

I am not afraid of ISIS. I live in Chicago, one of their purported targets, and I'll tell you what: If I get blown up, don't use my corpse as an excuse for anything- that means you 69. America, stop being so puss-puss. If they attack (whoever they really are) well, then, welcome to the world America, it is a dangerous place. Made moreso when you bomb the $#@! out of people. LOL, do your worst you Islamic retards.

+rep! This is fking America! Since when did we get so scared of every little thing that the media tells us to be scared of. When you find yourself agreeing with Sean Hannity and John McCain about ISIS, you know you have been brain washed.

[torchbearer]

Tell ISIS to come to Rapides parish, Louisiana.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-the-Map-Might

[JK/SEA]

Will they be coming in MRAPS and body armour wrapped in 'the flag'..?...

[GunnyFreedom]

I have no doubt that radicalized Muslims have come into the US across the Mexican border. I have no doubt that at some point in the future there will be some kind of attack. Sure, we are the ones who pissed them off in the first place, but nevertheless, I am fairly certain they are already here and will attack at some point, either by dribs and drabs, in groups, or all at once. Sure it's a consequence of our own (national) stupidity, but it doesn't change the logic of it. If I were in the 'radicalized caliphate' proponents shoes, I would have spent the last decade stacking my people up in the US, and when I needed to do something that the US would find particularly objectionable, push the red button and set chaos loose. It's not even the best strategy, but it is one that I am most likely to pick in light of the organizational problems with radicalized Islam.

I would be more surprised, strategically, if they were not already over here by the gross. If it looks like we are actually going to back off of the police state, their attack will likely be right around the corner. Their aim to prevent the US from reobtaining liberty and prosperity, because extinguishing our prosperity will bankrupt us and leave our tanks empty on the field of battle, and taking our freedom is just some kind of petty revenge. Just because the bad guys are acknowledging the existence of a threat doesn't necessarily automatically mean the threat is fake. I can totally acknowledge that our foreign policy is to blame for radicalizing the people who want to hurt us, while at the same time recognizing that there are actually people out there who want to hurt us.

Truth be told, if there were not 'sleepers' in the US right now, then our 'enemies' would be strategic imbeciles, according to their own stated goals and plans. I would rather not underestimate them, and so I will assume that they are not imbeciles. I reckon there are already radicalized Muslims in the US, that many of them are 'passing' as illegal Mexicans (minus the added vulnerability of having to work), and that we will hear from them at some point in the future.

I also think it is important to account for reality, because if we go around saying "this is all fake" and then something happens and it was not fake, then we lose credibility. As an intelligence analyst, I would have said, "It could happen this way, or it could happen that way. Here are the indicators it will happen this way, and there are the indicators that it will happen that way."

Problem here, is there aren't much in the way of 'indicators' excepting stories like Quran and prayer shawls left south of the border, which could easily be real as it could be a practical joke by an imaginative Mexican. Chatter indicating a growing relationship between radicalized Muslims and Mexican cartels are another indicator that was tripped about a year ago iirc. The known-verified existence of radicalized Muslim militia training camps in places like Clover, SC is another pretty strong indicator, although the ones who sneak across the border likely wouldn't be caught dead near one of the known militia camps.

There is just too much to indicate that this threat is real to dismiss it out of hand as if it were fictitious. Mind you, that doesn't change the fact that the threat is a direct consequence of blowback, nor does it posit as a solution a more militarized police force. The actual solution would be to empower the citizenship in general to the regular and irregular militias of the United States, and equip and train the people at large to defend against such things without government help. Then whenever governments do arrive, the situation will already be well in hand, and so we can cut their equipment budgets in half.

[pcosmar]

Will they be coming in MRAPS and body armour wrapped in 'the flag'..?...

[GunnyFreedom]

tldr; The solution to the potential for radicalised islamic terrorism in the United States, is to re-activate the American organized and unorganized militias, and provide them (the public at large) with training on reducing active terrorism scenarios. Preferably training from veterans who have actually done such things. Re-build Yamamoto's "a rifle behind every blade of grass" and give it the substance that it has never had before. Arm, equip, and train the whole people of the United States to come together spontaneously and put down an active terrorist attack.

Make every target in the f'n United States a 'hard target' by virtue of an armed populace. We will lose a few who just blow up without warning, but it will work out in the end when all the failed ops just get too expensive. Then we would be justified to establish Marque and Reprisal, hand out massive cash rewards for the actual people whodunit, spend less than 1% what a war costs (while actually accomplishing far more) and we can show the Bushidiotophiles how it was supposed to have been done in the first place, without invading all these countries and creating a century of blowback.

lol my tldr is almost tldr...

[TheTexan]

ISIS.... is in Mexico??

[TheTexan]

My thoughts? If they are here kill every one of them. I also want to kill them everywhere they exist.

Yes, this. ISIS will drown in their blood, for everything they have done to us. Or at least, for what they have said they would do to us.

[JK/SEA]

glad to see the fear mongering tactic still works.

[HOLLYWOOD]

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=210y...8#.VATQEIGUDDA



http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle39005.htm

[CaptainAmerica]

propaganda and hot air. the borders have been ignored for decades, no one cares... its an import for narcotics, the cartels are not going to allow some foreigners mess with their operations

[Working Poor]

I think IS is pure fear mongering propaganda.

[Brett85]

When you find yourself agreeing with Sean Hannity and John McCain about ISIS, you know you have been brain washed.

I imagine McCain and Graham probably support sending 100,000 troops back to Iraq.

[GunnyFreedom]

I would lay odds that there are at least somewhere between 20 and 150 radicalized Muslims of whatever flavor 'asleep' inside the United States today. Possibly more if they became obsessed with the strategy. I don't care if they are IS MB PDQ, just a generic "radicalized Muslim with an intent to cause harm." Laying aside who is responsible for radicalizing them, the reality is it is liable to be a problem at some point in the future. So rather than saying it just can't happen here (and you are crazy to think it could - libertarian political correctness), how about saying what is the right solution if it does happen?

Because I think it's a lot more likely than some here give credit to.

[JK/SEA]

i'm waaay more fearful of cops than some whack job with an 'agenda'...

but...the media sez its time to cower in fear and wait for the pressure cookers to go off...

send in the clowns.

[JK/SEA]

ISIS.... is in Mexico??

yep...its a small town just outside Mexico City...

[kcchiefs6465]

I'm not in favor of check points 100 miles from the border. I'm just in favor of putting our military right on the border, to keep people from coming here illegally.

Well, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Regardless of what level of socialistic despotism you are in favor of, I am aware of the possible or even the possibly probable result.

For instance, Constitution free zones. I'm sure no one who supported having the border patrol along the border particularly thought that the result would be that.

[Mani]

The ISIS is all the buzz nowadays?

Is McCain still writing their Anti-American hate speeches?

Terrorists are McCain's best friend. They make him relevant again...Sort of...Well...it gives him an opportunity to get his mug on TV and talk about blowing stuff up.



Are there real terrorists out there? Yes. Some the CIA directly created, some our Foreign Policy created, and some are just there. Are they a threat? Probably lower then the odds of a wacko marching into a theater/school/Temple and shooting up the place. And probably much lower than getting your ass beat down by the militarized police force protecting and serving you.