Judge decriminalizes polygamy in Utah

[green73]

A judge has ruled that parts of Utah's law banning polygamy are unconstitutional, effectively decriminalizing the practice, in a victory for the family that appears in the reality TV show 'Sister Wives'.

Kody Brown, who stars in the TLC reality show with his four wives, filed a lawsuit against the state after leaving Utah fearing prosecution after the programme aired.

Now a federal judge has issued his final ruling in the case that strikes down parts of the state's anti-polygamy law.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ygamy-ban.html

[William Tell]

Nice.

[DevilsAdvocate]

I never really understood polygamy. Do they realize that the ratio of men vs. women in the world is 50/50? If everybody was a polygamist with 4 wives, then 3/4ths of the male population must be single right? Thus it can never catch on to the population at large, it is destined to exist forever in tiny little cultish enclaves.

[presence]

I never really understood polygamy. Do they realize that the ratio of men vs. women in the world is 50/50? If everybody was a polygamist with 4 wives, then 3/4ths of the male population must be single right? Thus it can never catch on to the population at large, it is destined to exist forever in tiny little cultish enclaves.

Re: mormon polygamy...

I think the logic is that 3/4 of the male population shouldn't breed because they lack faith in God.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_bo...damentalism%29


But who's to say that polygamy is always one man with many wives... could be one woman with many husbands. One might consider female prostitution a form of matriarchal polygamy.

[tod evans]

One at a time is plenty for my ol' contrary ass....

[brushfire]

Now to get the government completely out of the marriage business.

[Pericles]

One at a time is plenty for my ol' contrary ass....

Likewise, one good one would be enough for me.

[Ender]

Now to get the government completely out of the marriage business.

Exactly.

The gov has no business in marriage or what happens between consenting adults.

[tod evans]

Now to get the government completely out of the marriage business.

Get government out of the welfare business and they're automatically out of the marriage business..

If there are no benefits to squabble over the the issue of marriage falls back to the Church where it belongs......

[Ender]

Re:

But who's to say that polygamy is always one man with many wives... could be one woman with many husbands. One might consider female prostitution a form of matriarchal polygamy.

The word, polygamy means: many marriages- not many wives.

[Ender]

Get government out of the welfare business and they're automatically out of the marriage business..

If there are no benefits to squabble over the the issue of marriage falls back to the Church where it belongs......

Actually, the marriage license originated as a racist ploy. It was to keep inter-racial marriages from happening. If more people understood THAT, I believe there would be a huge outcry.

[Christian Liberty]

Nice.

While I agree that the legalization is good, polygamy is still immoral

[Ender]

While I agree that the legalization is good, polygamy is still immoral

I thought you believed in the Bible?

[dannno]

I never really understood polygamy. Do they realize that the ratio of men vs. women in the world is 50/50?

Back when polygamy began with the Mormon church, most of the men had gone off to fight in the Mexican/American War and there were in fact too many single women.

The irony here is that for Utah to become a state, the church had to agree to ban polygamy because it was against federal law or something.

[dannno]

Re: mormon polygamy...

I think the logic is that 3/4 of the male population shouldn't breed because they lack faith in God.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_bo...damentalism%29

That doesn't make any sense, does that assume that more women have faith in God or that men with faithful wives should take on more wives with women who are unfaithful?

[presence]

That doesn't make any sense, does that assume that more women have faith in God or that men with faithful wives should take on more wives with women who are unfaithful?

You're in that realm of "great unanswerable questions" my friend. Some would say the word "chattel" comes into the conversation.

[Philhelm]

One at a time is plenty for my ol' contrary ass....

I prefer two at a time. It's exquisite.

[Vanguard101]

I'm moving there. I need 2 wives

[HOLLYWOOD]

I always found it odd seeing those pro polygamy billboards driving up and down I-15. We used to joke about them in starting our own harem.

I hear the Kingstons(family tree) are a large polygamist clan that practically owns Davis County, UT.

[Ender]

Back when polygamy began with the Mormon church, most of the men had gone off to fight in the Mexican/American War and there were in fact too many single women.

The irony here is that for Utah to become a state, the church had to agree to ban polygamy because it was against federal law or something.

Bingo-

The Mormons are a conquered people that had to do or die.It wasn't just about statehood, it was also that all Mormons, who didn't comply, would be taken to jail.

[John F Kennedy III]

Get government out of the welfare business and they're automatically out of the marriage business..

If there are no benefits to squabble over the the issue of marriage falls back to the Church where it belongs......

The Church doesn't need to have any say either.

[bolil]

Judge gives his opinion on a belief that is none of his damn business anyways, somehow this becomes law. Murica!

[Christian Liberty]

I thought you believed in the Bible?

God's original design for marriage, as explained in Genesis 2:24, only allows for one wife.

Now, to be clear, I have no issue with the decision. Polygamy isn't aggressive and thus shouldn't be illegal. William Tell agrees with you that its not morally wrong, hence my comment.

[PierzStyx]

Back when polygamy began with the Mormon church, most of the men had gone off to fight in the Mexican/American War and there were in fact too many single women.

The irony here is that for Utah to become a state, the church had to agree to ban polygamy because it was against federal law or something.

Republicans actually made up the federal law so they could go after the Mormons.

[PierzStyx]

God's original design for marriage, as explained in Genesis 2:24, only allows for one wife.

Now, to be clear, I have no issue with the decision. Polygamy isn't aggressive and thus shouldn't be illegal. William Tell agrees with you that its not morally wrong, hence my comment.

Genesis 2:24= That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

It's a stretch to say that God only ever intended man only have one wife from that verse, especially considering God allowed the practice under the Law of Moses. Even if you try and argue that God prefers monogamy nothing in the Bible says that polygamy is immoral.

[PierzStyx]

Bingo-

The Mormons are a conquered people that had to do or die.It wasn't just about statehood, it was also that all Mormons, who didn't comply, would be taken to jail.

And their assets (money, property, land, etc.) seized, their families broken, and their society forcibly shattered. The Mormons resisted for a long while even in the face of all that. The history of Mormon polygamy is a perfect example of why you don't want government involved in marriage.

[PierzStyx]

I always found it odd seeing those pro polygamy billboards driving up and down I-15. We used to joke about them in starting our own harem.

I hear the Kingstons(family tree) are a large polygamist clan that practically owns Davis County, UT.

To add a little clarity to that quote, Brigham Young said the following in the same paragraph as the quote in the picture but before the quote in the picture.

"It may be hard for many, and especially for the ladies, yet it is no harder for them than it is for the gentlemen. It is the word of the Lord, and I wish to say to you, and all the world, that if you desire with all your hearts to obtain the blessings which Abraham obtained, you will be polygamists at least in your faith, or you will come short of enjoying the salvation and the glory which Abraham has obtained."

Mormons believed God commanded the practice of polygamy, to resist it was to disobey His commands. That meant even if you did not actively practice it, you had to accept it as a principle of faith or rebel against God. And no one who rebels against God can expect celestial glory.

[69360]

I never really understood polygamy. Do they realize that the ratio of men vs. women in the world is 50/50? If everybody was a polygamist with 4 wives, then 3/4ths of the male population must be single right? Thus it can never catch on to the population at large, it is destined to exist forever in tiny little cultish enclaves.

They realize it all right. The men kick all the boys out of the church when they become teenagers so they can take all the women as wives. They end up out on their own at 14 or 15 not able to contact their family.

Still, consenting adults can marry as many as they please for all I care, not my concern.

[ChristianAnarchist]

Now we need to get rid of the "marriage license". Who the hell do they think they are "licensing" us anyway? Why do people put up with asking permission to do what is their right??

[William Tell]

While I agree that the legalization is good, polygamy is still immoral

So the Patriarchs were living in sin, and king David and others? I wonder why God and his prophets never told them to repent?
I guess the Lord is OK with Immoral behavior?