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  1. #31
    Ron Paul INC may get hit with this as well.
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  3. #32
    Indeed. I'm curious to know what ITC is. Collins? Oh Collins?



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    I just remembered the Weigel article on Paul Inc.

    That became more important in 2011. Iowa State Sen. Kent Sorenson, one of the candidates aided by National Right to Work’s 2010 letter program, became a power player in the state’s Republican caucuses. Sorenson endorsed Michele Bachmann, and his Grassroots Strategies group started receiving monthly $7,500 checks from her campaign, which wasn’t even legal in Iowa. He could, in other words, be bought. Later in 2011, according to some documents leaked by Fusaro and some obtained by an investigator in Iowa, the Iowa Gun Association’s Aaron Dorr drafted a proposal under which Sorenson could switch his endorsement to Ron Paul. Dorr’s memo was addressed to John Tate, who’d temporarily left the Campaign for Liberty to manage the 2012 Paul effort. The plan would require Sorenson being paid off secretly.

    “The money for salary and the PAC needs to be paid in advance,” wrote Dorr in the Oct. 29, 2011 memo. “To be blunt, there is an issue of trust involved, likely on both sides, and as a result KS, etc. needs to have the financial side met in advance.” In return, “KS would naturally speak at RP events in Iowa and be visible with him.”

    Dorr’s plan called for the Paul campaign to pay nearly a quarter-million dollars: $100,000 for a PAC to be run by Sorenson, $8,000 a month for the senator, and $5,000 a month for Aaron’s brother Chris Dorr, who was Sorenson’s clerk. Had the plan been carried out, it would have tied the Paul campaign to a career-ending scam.

    But it wasn’t carried out, at least not to completion. Under investigation in 2013, Sorenson handed over to investigators a $25,000 check from Ron Paul’s deputy campaign manager Dimitri Kesari, dated Dec. 26, 2011. Sorenson had endorsed Paul two days later, but the check had never been cashed. Sorenson had previously said as much in a secretly taped phone call with Fusaro, in which he revealed his intention to “give it back,” wondering only whether he should “hold onto it so I have something over” Kesari. Drew Ivers, who introduced Sorenson at the endorsement event, says he was shocked when the senator showed up.

    “I’ve been around for a long time, and I can smell out people pretty good,” says Ivers. “I put distance between Ron Paul and Kent Sorenson and Aaron Dorr.”
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...g_machine.html

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Under indictment?
    What was it? Five felonies a day?
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  7. #35
    Amusing that this sort of thing is entirely legal AFTER you're elected - we call it lobbying!

  8. #36
    Well glad to see my donations, that for all intents and purposes I could not even afford, went to a good cause and not spent frivolously!
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  9. #37
    Washington Times says he pleaded guilty to "accepting a bribe". How rare, a politician facing jail time over accepting a bribe! Why this guy, and why now? This story is already being used to hurt McConnell and discredit those pesky Pauls

    Former Iowa state senator pleads guilty to accepting bribe in 2012 presidential campaign
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ty-accepting-/
    Last edited by randomname; 08-28-2014 at 12:45 AM.

  10. #38
    I was just thinking, is it any wonder why "money bombs" fail so completely any more? Things like this are almost like getting an IV full of apathy, and pumping it full drip right into my veins.

    This just infuriates me!!!
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by randomname View Post
    Washington Times says he pleaded guilty to "accepting a bribe". How rare, a politician facing jail time over accepting a bribe! Why this guy, and why now? This story is already being used to hurt McConnell and discredit those pesky Pauls

    Former Iowa state senator pleads guilty to accepting bribe in 2012 presidential campaign
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ty-accepting-/
    If the end result of this is that McConnell loses in November, that's more than a fair trade off.
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Feelgood View Post
    Well glad to see my donations, that for all intents and purposes I could not even afford, went to a good cause and not spent frivolously!
    At least one story claims the $25,000 check was never cashed.
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  14. #41
    About time. Rand said he wasn't going to announce and pick his team until after the midterms. Surely this will be enough to keep Benton away from the campaign. If it isn't, then he doesn't deserve to win. I had pretty much written off doing the delegate thing again because of all of Benton's dirty dealings in Colorado, but I held on to my precinct chair position just in case he came to his senses. Hopefully they'll go further and throw Benton's ass in jail too. I will gather all local Ron Paulers for a party on the day that happens!

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by papitosabe View Post
    On a serious note, I don't believe RP knew anything about it. And I can see Benton being elbow deep in it.
    I suspect that is true of a whole lot in two campaigns.
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  16. #43
    So who should his campaign manager be? Doug Wead? Or is he still selling weightloss potion? He seemed more excited about Rand 2016 than Ron 2012, in 2011.
    Last edited by Shane Harris; 08-28-2014 at 08:43 AM.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Maltheus View Post
    About time. Rand said he wasn't going to announce and pick his team until after the midterms. Surely this will be enough to keep Benton away from the campaign. If it isn't, then he doesn't deserve to win. I had pretty much written off doing the delegate thing again because of all of Benton's dirty dealings in Colorado, but I held on to my precinct chair position just in case he came to his senses. Hopefully they'll go further and throw Benton's ass in jail too. I will gather all local Ron Paulers for a party on the day that happens!
    I bet he will hire Benton But the r3volution must go on, it's not about Rand.
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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Badger Paul View Post
    "After Sorenson publicly switched his endorsement, Paul’s campaign routed the state senator a total of $73,000 in 2012, transferring the payments through a film production company and another company to conceal the intended recipient, according to court filings. Sorenson wanted the payments kept secret because of Iowa Senate ethics rules that prohibit sitting senators from accepting payments from a political campaign, according to court papers.

    Smoking gun right there. The money was laundered. Wasn't a jewlery store involved too?

    Sorenson is facing five to 20 in a Federal pen. You think he plead guilty so he could do some easy time? My guess is the Feds will be happy see him pay a fine and pick up trash on the highway for a year. They've got bigger fish to fry.

    If I'm Jesse Benton I'm asking Mitch for some D.C legal referrals right about now. Might as well get something out being a glorified gofer.

    "Yup, this sort of thing will destroy Rand if it happens again."

    It will happen again if he continues to employ the same people. I think Rand can do better than Benton and Tate and the parasites at Sabre Communications.
    So true. Paul's granddaughter should be getting legal advice as well.
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by randomname View Post
    Washington Times says he pleaded guilty to "accepting a bribe". How rare, a politician facing jail time over accepting a bribe! Why this guy, and why now?
    Selective enforcement and prosecution. Some animals are more equal than others.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by RM918 View Post
    Amusing that this sort of thing is entirely legal AFTER you're elected - we call it lobbying!
    I was thinking something similar. Where's the crime here? Who's the victim?

  21. #48
    I don't even remotely care about this. Mitt Romney funded campaigns of literally dozens, possibly hundreds, of local and state candidates to win their support. What's the difference?



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    What was it? Five felonies a day?
    Was three.

    I reckon it's every bit of five now.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by randomname View Post
    Why this guy, and why now?
    This has been ongoing for two years,, like since it happened.

    There have been a lot of denials.. and obfuscation,, and evidence.

    He just plead guilty,, which means a Plea Bargain. I am wondering what he got for the Bargain? (or what they dropped)
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    If the end result of this is that McConnell loses in November, that's more than a fair trade off.
    As much as McConnell deserves to be sent home, replacing him with Grimes is not an improvement.

  26. #52
    Thing is, this sort of stuff is stupid common in politics. Not saying it's good or ok but it is common practice to route endorsement payoffs through shell corps and charities. Most examples don't even get a blink from LE and regulators. I'm sure this is only 'news' because it's tied to Ron and, by loose extension, Rand.

    Happy to say it's more evidence of why Benton better not have any part of Rand's campaign. He's been a liability from the start.


    Quote Originally Posted by Badger Paul View Post
    Indeed. I'm curious to know what ITC is. Collins? Oh Collins?
    ITC? Name rings a bell. Where did you see it? Context?
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  27. #53
    I saw ITC in this report:

    How rare, a politician facing jail time over accepting a bribe! Why this guy, and why now?

    Because he accpeted cold, hard cash. Most "bribery" in politics is more subtle and most politicians not as stupid as Sorenson.

    Top story on Yahoo.com now.

  28. #54
    It's "ICT Inc" in your link. Probably just a shell corp entity created solely for funneling pay-offs not tied to any particular human name. Maryland's dept of taxation website doesn't have much info about it.
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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    As much as McConnell deserves to be sent home, replacing him with Grimes is not an improvement.
    Of course it is, McConnell is the kingpin Republican in the Senate. Grimes would simply be a goon.
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  30. #56
    its perfectly legal to pay people for endorsements. Tiger Woods, Rory McElroy, and Dan Marino get paid all the time.
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  32. #57
    Why pay for an endorsement? Why not just hire the dude as a campaign manager or consultant, and then get his endorsement as part of the deal?
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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Galileo Galilei View Post
    Why pay for an endorsement? Why not just hire the dude as a campaign manager or consultant, and then get his endorsement as part of the deal?
    That's actually how it was structured. This is only illegal because most campaign finance laws are idiotic.

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Feelgood View Post
    Well glad to see my donations, that for all intents and purposes I could not even afford, went to a good cause and not spent frivolously!
    Being reminded of that does not make me Feelgood. I've said it before and I will say it again. If Benton is on the team then the team will not get any support from me. Not even the gas money to go to the poll.

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    Of course it is, McConnell is the kingpin Republican in the Senate. Grimes would simply be a goon.
    That and the fact I do not want to see McConnell as senate majority leader.
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