Learning from psychopaths -- want to win in life and politics?

[Edward777]

Maybe the reason psychopaths win is because they know how to play the game -- and they play to win. So what can normal people learn from these people? Can normal people remain good while learning from psychopaths in politics, election strategy and even their personal lives? With the elections coming up we have seen how Romney lost the election in 2012 trying to be Mr. Nice Guy. Can we afford to make the same mistake twice?

How to incorporate psychopathic strategies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UzOT8Ftljc

One does not need to turn to the dark side to use the force you know.

[VIDEODROME]

Call the Psycho-HotLine for advise.

[pessimist]

Maybe the reason psychopaths win is because they know how to play the game -- and they play to win. So what can normal people learn from these people? Can normal people remain good while learning from psychopaths in politics, election strategy and even their personal lives? With the elections coming up we have seen how Romney lost the election in 2012 trying to be Mr. Nice Guy. Can we afford to make the same mistake twice?

How to incorporate psychopathic strategies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UzOT8Ftljc

One does not need to turn to the dark side to use the force you know.

It is no surprise that many of those in power are sociopaths. Those with a conscience usually aren't driven to power or have the need to control or influence others.

Only a small percentage of people actually want to be Politicians, CEO's, and dictators.

[Philhelm]

I have a friend from high school whom I believe is a sociopath. He's not murderous or anything like that, but he really knows how to schmooze people and has no honor. In high school, he pushed away his exams and put his head on the desk. He lost his driver's license because he had lied in court about not being in town (he was racing another friend who got pulled over by the cops, and the friend ratted - apparently the cop found his car in his driveway when he was supposedly away at college). He dropped out of college because he was partying and doing drugs (weed, shrooms, acid, etc.). He got married and divorced, and his wife let him keep the house, which he sold for a profit. He always wins money at the casino. He went to a two-year technical school for programming, and now he apparently earns $130,000 per year and is in a management position - oh, and he lives in San Diego. He banged a 20-year-old intern and gave her an outstanding performance review. His boss is a partier too, so he got back into doing drugs and leaves his job early on Fridays so they can party and bang interns.

Meanwhile, another mutual friend was the valedictorian of our high school and was always a person of high integrity. He got a free ride in order to get a Master's in Electrical Engineering, had a high level security clearance, and was designing next generation technology for missile defense. He's single, unemployed, and living with his parents. I'm sure he'll find another six-figure job soon, but he'll still be single and alone, with no friends.

Apparently Charisma isn't a dump stat after all... It's the most important stat.

[Christian Liberty]

I have a friend from high school whom I believe is a sociopath. He's not murderous or anything like that, but he really knows how to schmooze people and has no honor. In high school, he pushed away his exams and put his head on the desk. He lost his driver's license because he had lied in court about not being in town (he was racing another friend who got pulled over by the cops, and the friend ratted - apparently the cop found his car in his driveway when he was supposedly away at college). He dropped out of college because he was partying and doing drugs (weed, shrooms, acid, etc.). He got married and divorced, and his wife let him keep the house, which he sold for a profit. He always wins money at the casino. He went to a two-year technical school for programming, and now he apparently earns $130,000 per year and is in a management position - oh, and he lives in San Diego. He banged a 20-year-old intern and gave her an outstanding performance review. His boss is a partier too, so he got back into doing drugs and leaves his job early on Fridays so they can party and bang interns.

Meanwhile, another mutual friend was the valedictorian of our high school and was always a person of high integrity. He got a free ride in order to get a Master's in Electrical Engineering, had a high level security clearance, and was designing next generation technology for missile defense. He's single, unemployed, and living with his parents. I'm sure he'll find another six-figure job soon, but he'll still be single and alone, with no friends.

Apparently Charisma isn't a dump stat after all... It's the most important stat.

Aren't we all at least kind of like that?

(And by "all" I mean all of the 1% of the country that's actually smart enough to be libertarian and thus pretty much alienated by everyone else.)

[PaulConventionWV]

I've long suspected I'm a psychopath. Nothing in the video surprises me in the least.

[Edward777]

I've long suspected I'm a psychopath. Nothing in the video surprises me in the least.

Here is a quiz: http://www.arkancide.com/psychopathy.htm

[bolil]

Yeah, what about us Psychopaths that happen to have overactive consciences? All you can learn from us is: It doesn't get better. lol!

[PaulConventionWV]

Here is a quiz: http://www.arkancide.com/psychopathy.htm

Thanks. Apparently, I am.

[Edward777]

Score?

Also, do you agree with the video that there are things that normals could learn from psychopaths to gain goals?

[Philhelm]

Score?

Also, do you agree with the video that there are things that normals could learn from psychopaths to gain goals?

I was hoping for a perfect score but ended up with only a C+ since I've lost my virginity, don't wet my bed, and I don't think of my mother while touching myself.

[pessimist]

I've long suspected I'm a psychopath. Nothing in the video surprises me in the least.

Didn't you say that you suffered with anxiety and depression? I find it hard to believe a true psychopath/sociopath would experience anxiety.

[Ronin Truth]

When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads.
Ron Paul

[Edward777]

Didn't you say that you suffered with anxiety and depression? I find it hard to believe a true psychopath/sociopath would experience anxiety.

Anyone can experience anxiety. Think of it as a dog who knows it will be kicked if it goes to the bathroom on the kitchen floor but the owner just sits there and does nothing when it barks to go out. Today's society acts the same way on humans within our current societal constructs.

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Didn't you say that you suffered with anxiety and depression? I find it hard to believe a true psychopath/sociopath would experience anxiety.

I think he's confusing psychopath with full of $#@!.

[PaulConventionWV]

Score?

Also, do you agree with the video that there are things that normals could learn from psychopaths to gain goals?

Score was 30. And yes, I totally agree. I think people sit and worry about the feelings of others too much. As long as you can make it right, you have done no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I don't think being psychopathic is a negative thing as long as you can control it. Not everyone who thinks like that goes into a murderous rage. As I'm sure you know, I'm a big advocate of human rights even though I tend to focus more on the injustices on the part of authorities than the suffering of the victims. They both achieve the same purpose.

[PaulConventionWV]

Didn't you say that you suffered with anxiety and depression? I find it hard to believe a true psychopath/sociopath would experience anxiety.

Then you really don't understand how either depression or psychopathy work.

Psychopathy doesn't mean you don't feel feelings. In fact, depression and psychopathy go together rather well. Depression itself is not just being sad, it's a lack of emotional response and a constantly gloomy outlook. I don't suffer from the gloomy outlook anymore, and I think I'm a pretty healthy individual.

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Then you really don't understand how either depression or psychopathy work.

Psychopathy doesn't mean you don't feel feelings. In fact, depression and psychopathy go together rather well. Depression itself is not just being sad, it's a lack of emotional response and a constantly gloomy outlook. I don't suffer from the gloomy outlook anymore, and I think I'm a pretty healthy individual.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...s-psychopath-0

No psychopath is mentally healthy. That is like saying a cancer patient is healthy.

[PaulConventionWV]

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...s-psychopath-0

No psychopath is mentally healthy. That is like saying a cancer patient is healthy.

Sure, if you listen to the medical professionals. I don't think that way, though.

Millions of people fall into the category of psychopath or sociopath, but very few of them ever commit heinous crimes.

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Sure, if you listen to the medical professionals. I don't think that way, though.

Millions of people fall into the category of psychopath or sociopath, but very few of them ever commit heinous crimes.

That's why the prisons are stuffed full of them.

"One per cent of the population at large is generally reckoned to be psychopathic - but up to 20 per cent of the prison population is reckoned to be psychopathic."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ar-guilt.html#

[PaulConventionWV]

That's why the prisons are stuffed full of them.

"One per cent of the population at large is generally reckoned to be psychopathic - but up to 20 per cent of the prison population is reckoned to be psychopathic."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ar-guilt.html#

Keywords "reckoned to be". Reckoned by whom?

Just like anything, psychopathy may expose you to a greater risk of being mentally unstable, but I don't think it's inherently a bad thing.

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Okey Dokey. Being a psychopath, means you don't care about other people, are more violent, impulsive, prone to blame others for your mistakes, torture animals, and are far more likely to commit crimes in general.

Naaaa, nothing bad about that... Nope... Man if everyone were like that the world would be an utopia.

For the record, IMO, it's doubtful you've been actually tested to be a psychopath, as no sane psychopath would actually reveal that, as there would be no gain in doing that.

[Christian Liberty]

Score was 30. And yes, I totally agree. I think people sit and worry about the feelings of others too much. As long as you can make it right, you have done no wrong as far as I'm concerned. I don't think being psychopathic is a negative thing as long as you can control it. Not everyone who thinks like that goes into a murderous rage. As I'm sure you know, I'm a big advocate of human rights even though I tend to focus more on the injustices on the part of authorities than the suffering of the victims. They both achieve the same purpose.

I do the same thing but I only scored a 5...

[PaulConventionWV]

Okey Dokey. Being a psychopath, means you don't care about other people, are more violent, impulsive, prone to blame others for your mistakes, torture animals, and are far more likely to commit crimes in general.

Naaaa, nothing bad about that... Nope... Man if everyone were like that the world would be an utopia.

For the record, IMO, it's doubtful you've been actually tested to be a psychopath, as no sane psychopath would actually reveal that, as there would be no gain in doing that.

You're right. Besides that little test that Edward777 offered at the beginning, I've never been tested to be one, but what do I gain? Well, I like to think people who are psychopathic are that way because they are smarter than most people. With great power comes great responsibility. People who can't handle it will become criminals. Those who can handle it aren't bad people just because they think differently than most people.

I'd say it's a little more complicated than not caring about others (psychopaths do have the capacity to care, just in different ways) and being violent (you don't have to be violent). Being impulsive and prone to blame others for mistakes? Well, who doesn't do that?

Torturing animals is just something you pulled from a news piece on the Columbine shootings. That doesn't happen all the time. You're right that it could be a problem, but I don't think people should be labeled as mentally sick just because some doctor decided what was the correct and incorrect way to think and decided that people who don't fall into his neatly defined categories are crazy. Think outside the box a little. You only hear about the psychopaths who are on the news for killing people. You never hear about the ones who become CEOs and make great inventions because then their psychopathy doesn't matter. It's only when they do bad things that the psychopathy matters.

I'd rather be a psychopath than some Joe Schmeaux who never acts because he doesn't want to offend anyone and is proud of mopping floors for some company for 27 years because he's such a useful idiot who will never achieve greatness.

[PaulConventionWV]

I do the same thing but I only scored a 5...

Whatever. I don't care about the test.

[Christian Liberty]

I tortured lizards when I was 6. I guess I have no hope now....

[Christian Liberty]

Whatever. I don't care about the test.

Does it actually make you more psychopathic to feel morally superior to statists?

[RonPaulIsGreat]

You're right. Besides that little test that Edward777 offered at the beginning, I've never been tested to be one, but what do I gain? Well, I like to think people who are psychopathic are that way because they are smarter than most people. With great power comes great responsibility. People who can't handle it will become criminals. Those who can handle it aren't bad people just because they think differently than most people.

I'd say it's a little more complicated than not caring about others (psychopaths do have the capacity to care, just in different ways) and being violent (you don't have to be violent). Being impulsive and prone to blame others for mistakes? Well, who doesn't do that?

Torturing animals is just something you pulled from a news piece on the Columbine shootings. That doesn't happen all the time. You're right that it could be a problem, but I don't think people should be labeled as mentally sick just because some doctor decided what was the correct and incorrect way to think and decided that people who don't fall into his neatly defined categories are crazy. Think outside the box a little. You only hear about the psychopaths who are on the news for killing people. You never hear about the ones who become CEOs and make great inventions because then their psychopathy doesn't matter. It's only when they do bad things that the psychopathy matters.

Well, I have read books on it and watched all the videos I could find on it, though, I don't have the stats memorized. Animal torture is a common thing for young psychopaths, also fascination with fire, they used to say bedwetting, but that has been determined not to be a factor. It's not made up.

[pessimist]

Then you really don't understand how either depression or psychopathy work.

Psychopathy doesn't mean you don't feel feelings. In fact, depression and psychopathy go together rather well. Depression itself is not just being sad, it's a lack of emotional response and a constantly gloomy outlook. I don't suffer from the gloomy outlook anymore, and I think I'm a pretty healthy individual.

Psychopaths have a remarkably high tolerance to stress. Moreover, they lack empathy and impulse control- that is why prisons are full of them.

However, it is true being a sociopath doesn't = criminal. Your surgeon, dentist, or veterinarian could be a sociopath and not have any sympathy whatsoever for their patients, but they have no intention of harming them or committing a crime.

Depression itself is not just being sad, it's a lack of emotional response and a constantly gloomy outlook

Yeah it's more than an 'outlook' but let's not rehash that again. Maybe the word you're looking for is narcissist?

[Philhelm]

For the record, IMO, it's doubtful you've been actually tested to be a psychopath, as no sane psychopath would actually reveal that, as there would be no gain in doing that.

Maybe it's the only "cool" way to explain the bed wetting?