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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    I tortured lizards when I was 6. I guess I have no hope now....
    Psychological torture is better. I had a friend that cornered my family's cat behind the toilet, and he scared her so bad that she started $#@!ting. He literally scared the $#@! out of the cat. All he did was grab a plunger and poke it at her, without even touching her, while saying "Ooooh-ja-booojawah! Ooooh-ja-booojawah!" Then he screamed out like a girl, "Oh my god! Your cat is $#@!ting!"
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    Psychological torture is better. I had a friend that cornered my family's cat behind the toilet, and he scared her so bad that she started $#@!ting. He literally scared the $#@! out of the cat. All he did was grab a plunger and poke it at her, without even touching her, while saying "Ooooh-ja-booojawah! Ooooh-ja-booojawah!" Then he screamed out like a girl, "Oh my god! Your cat is $#@!ting!"
    lol! In all seriousness, I'm not defending what I did, but I think I'm mentally fine now, despite what the products of public indoctrination centers would think.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    Does it actually make you more psychopathic to feel morally superior to statists?
    That's a possibility, or maybe I feel morally superior to statists because I am one. I don't know. I do think psychopaths tend to be more libertarian, though.
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulIsGreat View Post
    Well, I have read books on it and watched all the videos I could find on it, though, I don't have the stats memorized. Animal torture is a common thing for young psychopaths, also fascination with fire, they used to say bedwetting, but that has been determined not to be a factor. It's not made up.
    You know what they say, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    That's a possibility, or maybe I feel morally superior to statists because I am one. I don't know. I do think psychopaths tend to be more libertarian, though.
    I pretty much feel the same way (regarding moral superiority to statists) so I do have to wonder what that is. I don't think I'm a psychopath, though...

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by pessimist View Post
    Psychopaths have a remarkably high tolerance to stress. Moreover, they lack empathy and impulse control- that is why prisons are full of them.
    True, but that doesn't mean they don't get stressed.

    However, it is true being a sociopath doesn't = criminal. Your surgeon, dentist, or veterinarian could be a sociopath and not have any sympathy whatsoever for their patients, but they have no intention of harming them or committing a crime.
    Bravo.

    Yeah it's more than an 'outlook' but let's not rehash that again. Maybe the word you're looking for is narcissist?
    I guess it's kind of hard to distinguish the two from the eyes of another, isn't it?
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    I guess it's kind of hard to distinguish the two from the eyes of another, isn't it?

    Yeah, they're probably similar on the surface. Malignant narcissism is apparently a combo of NPD and ASPD.

    However there are differences.

    According to WHO: http://apps.who.int/classifications/...2010/en#/F60.2

    ASPD is:

    Personality disorder characterized by disregard for social obligations, and callous unconcern for the feelings of others. There is gross disparity between behaviour and the prevailing social norms. Behaviour is not readily modifiable by adverse experience, including punishment. There is a low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence; there is a tendency to blame others, or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behaviour bringing the patient into conflict with society.
    According to the mayoclinic (I can't find the WHO NPD definition for some reason): http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...n/con-20025568

    NPD is:

    Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. Those with narcissistic personality disorder believe that they're superior to others and have little regard for other people's feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

    Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways, limiting their ability to function in relationships and in other areas of their life, such as work or school.

    Narcissistic personality disorder treatment is centered around psychotherapy.
    I think the average histrionic celebrity is probably more of a narcissist than a psychopath, whereas a CEO of a multinational corporation is probably more a psychopath or a malignant narcissist.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by pessimist View Post
    Yeah, they're probably similar on the surface. Malignant narcissism is apparently a combo of NPD and ASPD.

    However there are differences.

    According to WHO: http://apps.who.int/classifications/...2010/en#/F60.2

    ASPD is:



    According to the mayoclinic (I can't find the WHO NPD definition for some reason): http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...n/con-20025568

    NPD is:



    I think the average histrionic celebrity is probably more of a narcissist than a psychopath, whereas a CEO of a multinational corporation is probably more a psychopath or a malignant narcissist.
    I'd say that's about right, but I tend not to take the WHO's word on anything.
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    That's a possibility, or maybe I feel morally superior to statists because I am one. I don't know. I do think psychopaths tend to be more libertarian, though.
    That might be true as psychopaths see themselves in the light of Nietzsche's Uberman in the sense they are superior to others and resent people imposing their rules on them, especially in the name of "doing good for society."

  12. #40
    Nothing is scarier than an angry person with a good heart. It's how all tyrants who think they are invincible fall. When $#@! hits the fan and we're all being tied down and forced to take our soul-sucking vaccinations and being marched into prison camps and fed human meat goo, it will be the really angry, good people who have the determination of a million braindead zombie enforcers that will inspire everybody else and win in the end.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

    We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
    - Edward R. Murrow

    ...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.

    How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."



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  14. #41
    Psycho/sociopaths should all just go kill themselves and take yourself out of the gene pool. I have zero tolerance for you, and don't give a $#@! if you can be a good dentist or doctor, lawyer or politician. People who empathize can do the same thing without $#@!ing other people over.
    Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    Psycho/sociopaths should all just go kill themselves and take yourself out of the gene pool. I have zero tolerance for you, and don't give a $#@! if you can be a good dentist or doctor, lawyer or politician. People who empathize can do the same thing without $#@!ing other people over.
    There are cases of "accidental" deaths during surgery, where they "accidentally" cut something important to the heart for example and the patient dies. Many of those I'm sure are done intentionally by doctors who happen to be psychos.

    I recall a case where they waited until the statute of limitations expired, so they could no longer be sued, and then informed the family of what happened. What's good at that point, other than to brag?

    A similar case I recall from the news was when doctors cut their initials in the liver of a patient during surgery. Their initials were found years later during another surgery.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward777 View Post
    lol, I got a "1," and it was a weak "1" at that.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by jj- View Post

    A similar case I recall from the news was when doctors cut their initials in the liver of a patient during surgery. Their initials were found years later during another surgery.
    Holy crap that's disturbing.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

    We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
    - Edward R. Murrow

    ...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.

    How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    Holy crap that's disturbing.
    Top surgeon suspended over claims he 'seared his initials on transplant patient's LIVER

    I just read it again, he didn't cut it, he used argon gas.

    Another case, this time in the abdomen: Doctor Carved His Initials Into Patient, Lawsuit Says
    Last edited by jj-; 05-03-2015 at 11:45 AM.

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