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    Rob Schneider says he has smoking gun on vaccine-autism CDC fraud

    by Jon Rappoport

    August 24, 2014

    www.nomorefakenews.com

    Here is a copy of a letter actor and comedian Rob Schneider sent to California Governor Jerry Brown’s office Friday. It is posted at canaryparty.org.

    Schneider is to be commended and supported in every possible way for stepping forward.

    Schneider writes: “I have copies of the original CDC report that was later suppressed and fraudulently changed.”

    I urge Schneider to post that report now.

    From: Rob Schneider
    Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:20 PM
    Subject: CDC Autism Whistleblower Admits Vaccine Study Fraud – CNN iReport
    To: Lark Park, Deputy Legislative Secretary, Governor’s office

    Dear Ms. Park,

    This is Rob Schneider. I want to first thank you for calling me several years ago when Governor Brown signed into law AB2109, the requirement for all parents of school children to have to “be counseled” to get a Doctor’s note in order to obtain a vaccine exemption to attend public school in California.

    As you may or may or not know this has caused hardships all over the state as Doctors have refused to meet with parents who want the exemption form signed and families who have been threatened with or have been kicked out of medical practices for not going along with the exact Vaccine schedule, currently 49 shots of over 16 different Vaccines before the age of Six Years old. This in spite of a family’s objections whose child may have had another sibling that had a bad reaction to a particular Vaccine.

    This policy of one size fits all Vaccine schedule for every child is as absurd as giving the same eye prescription glasses to every child. The fact is EVERY CHILD IS DIFFERENT and there is currently NO SYSTEM or thought to which child could be more susceptible to adverse reactions including permanent injury and death from any Vaccine or Vaccine ingredients.

    Since I have opposed this undemocratic and onerous legislation (and Law) from its inception, I have kept up on how it has affected families in California. Now there is more reason than ever to be concerned, even outraged, by the CDC and by AB 2109.

    A top Scientist and Researcher for the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), Dr. William Thompson PHD, who did the major research safety study for the Measles Mumps and Rubella Vaccine (MMR) has come forward as a whistleblower and admitted that the MMR study was in fact fraudulent. (I have attached a link of the news story from CNN for your convenience).

    As a concerned citizen of the State of California, I feel compelled to share with you proof the CDC committed fraud (I have copies of the original CDC report that was later suppressed and fraudulently changed). One disturbing disclosure, AFRICAN AMERICAN CHILDREN were and still are THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY PERCENT more likely to develop Autism under the current Vaccine MMR schedule. This according to the original CDC study in 2001.

    My question to you and Governor Brown is, how many children in California in the last thirteen years since this report have been hurt? How many children in the US have been permanently damaged?

    Lastly, how many MORE children will be needlessly injured because of the bill Governor Brown signed?

    Before I pay for advertisements in News outlets, Sacramento Bee, etc, I would like to hear what Governor Brown has to say in light of this new information.

    This letter is being sent to my Representative in Congress, Congressman Sherman and to my friend Congressman Posey of Florida and to both our State Senators as well as to other media outlets.

    I await your call or email and Governor Brown’s prompt response.
    The children of California deserve nothing less.

    Sincerely,

    Rob Schneider

    http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/20...-autism-fraud/
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    CDC Whistle Blower’s ‘Vaccines and Autism’ Link may be Silenced Forever

    by Paul Fassa
    August 25th, 2014

    There’s been a lot of news about a hidden CDC insider whistle blower who had hidden his identity until now. The whistle blower felt guilt ridden for being part of withholding CDC documents that contained evidence of MMR vaccinations causing autism. Now, he’s been outed by the Autism Media Channel. That group’s site had disappeared at the time of this writing.

    According to investigative journalist Jon Rappoport of nomorefakenews.com, the whistle blower’s name is William W. Thompson, PhD. He was a scientist working for the CDC in its National Center for Immunizations and Respiratory Diseases (NCIRD), which includes the following in its mission statement: “… prevention of disease, disability, and death through immunization… .”

    “In other words, it’s a PR agency that promotes vaccines. Actual science about vaccine dangers would be cut off at the pass. [Now] Thompson is looked at as a threat to this agenda. His unwillingness to come all the way forward, speak his name, tell the whole truth has boomeranged on him,” asserts Rappoport, who also reported from a contact of his that Thompson was escorted out of CDC headquarters.

    He was fired, then the autism site that put out his name disappeared. Coincidence? I think not. From their FaceBook site …
    A Few Questions That May Never Be Answered

    Rapapport posed a valid conjecture:

    “The [bogus MMR] study was used by the press and the government to trumpet the idea (the lie) that everybody could rest easy; vaccines containing mercury weren’t harming anyone. Now, this, too, comes under scrutiny.”

    He posed these questions:

    “If Thompson was lying about the MMR vaccine, did he also lie about mercury and its toxic effects? Did he intentionally underplay those effects? Did he cook the data in that study, too?”


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    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    comedian Rob Schneider
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    Screenshots of ‘CNN iReport’ on CDC whistleblower before CNN censored story
    Here are the screens of Bobby Dee’s report before CNN censored the story






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    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    CDC whistleblower's secret letter to Gerberding released by Natural News as mainstream media desperately censors explosive story

    Monday, August 25, 2014
    by Mike Adams

    The CDC whistleblower who has come forward with proof that the CDC knowingly covered up scientific evidence linking the MMR vaccine to autism has now been revealed as William W. Thompson, PhD. To share this story, use tags #vaccinegate and #EndVaccineViolence

    Natural News has acquired a letter from William Thompson to former CDC head Dr. Julie Gerberding, dated February 2nd, 2004. The date of this letter is important because a pivotal Institute of Medicine (IoM) meeting on vaccine safety took place just one week later on February 9th. (See the full letter below.)

    In this letter, William Thompson says he will be "presenting the summary of our results from the Metropolitan Atlanta Autism Case-Control Study," and he laments that the data will show MMR vaccines cause an increased risk of autism in youth African-American babies. He explains "I will have to present several problematic results relating to statistical associations between the receipt of MMR vaccine and autism."

    He then goes on to implore Dr. Gerberding to respond to questions that had been raised by "Representative David Weldon" regarding the integrity of CDC scientists working in the immunization program. He also explains that the CDC has been covering up the truth about the safety problems the agency's own scientists had documented with vaccines, saying:

    I've repeatedly told individuals in the [National Immunization Program Office of Directors] over the last several years that they're doing a very poor job representing immunization safety issues and that we're losing the public relations war.

    In response to this letter, the CDC took deliberate action to retroactively alter the outcome of the autism study by arbitrarily eliminating most subjects from the study, thereby shrinking the sample size to a small data set which would not achieve statistical significance. This is a clear and irrefutable case of scientific fraud. This fraud allowed CDC scientists such as Colleen Boyle to testify before Congress that there was "no credible link" between MMR vaccines and autism.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/046597_CD...#ixzz3BPYIhblA





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    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    AMAZING!
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


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    Another effort to discount vaccinations as a source of autism has gone into research to prove defective genes as the major culprit. Some epidemiological studies based on twins with autism spectrum disorders was done as early as the mid-1970s. Since then, autism has increased 40-fold. All this from a sudden case of bad genes? This rapid autism rise has coincided with a dramatic increase of early childhood vaccination schedules over the same period, which has been an almost four-fold increase.

    The gene theory does not explain how healthy babies suddenly became autistic after undergoing part of an intense series of vaccinations, some shots with multiple-vaccines, at newly born or toddler age.

    As a matter of fact, there is very little effort to objectively pursue the autism-vaccination connection. Gene research opposition to the gene theories of autism, or gene theories of many diseases, comes from those who consider environmental causes as primary causal factors, not vaccinations.

    Even that opposition is out-funded by the genetic research into autism mindset: $1 billion to $40 million or 25 to 1 over the past ten years. Of course, there is little or no funded research for vaccinations as a major cause for autism. And very little gets out into mainstream media circles about actual adverse effects from vaccinations.

    The Vaccine Adverse Effect Reporting System (VAERS) was set up by the CDC for medical professionals to voluntarily report vaccination adverse effects. How many are actually reported is estimated at around 5%. . . .

    Thanks to the tireless work of the ever-so controversial [and ever-so VINDICATED] Dr. Andrew Wakefield who first proposed that there was a link between stomach disorders and autism, and more specifically the measles-mumps-rubella vaccination (MMR vaccine) and autism, a court has finally admitted that the scientific evidence is sufficient enough to prove that a vaccination which is required in most states for children to enter school could cause autism.

    Autism is marked by three pronounced challenges for children, including delays in social development, language development and behavior. Autism can be extreme or mild, but Wakefield’s evidence – a body of work he has been working on since before 2006 – shows that the number of cases has been increasing ever since the vaccine was administered to infants with more frequency. Many people even noticed symptoms of the vaccine shortly after it was administered to their child, when prior to being given MMR, their child showed no signs of autism.

    Finally courts, pharmaceutical companies, and the US government are being held to the fire – paying out millions in settlement fees to parents of children with autism. Perhaps the sheer numbers of children developing this disorder were too hard to deny – even after doctors like Wakefield were clearly showing evidence that these vaccines were harmful.

    Autism affects more children than childhood cancer, diabetes and AIDS combined, and the prevalence of the disease is rising. In just the last decade, the number of children who have been diagnosed on the autism spectrum has nearly doubled. The millions that have been paid out to families has been an attempt to compensate them for their tribulations, but quite probably to silence the growing alarm surrounding this commonly prescribed practice, of vaccinating children. . . .

    “Getting children all of the vaccines recommended by CDC’s immunization schedule is one of the most important things parents can do to protect their children’s health – and that of classmates and the community,” said Allen County Health Commissioner Dr. Deborah McMahan. Perhaps Dr. McMahan should check the latest research. . . . In one study published in 2002, the vaccine was found to cause an immune reaction which is thought to play a great role in autism. Dr Vijendra Singh analyzed blood samples from 125 autistic children and 92 children who did not have the disorder. In 75 of the autistic children they found antibodies showing there had been an abnormal reaction to the measles component of the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. Nine out of 10 of those children were also positive for antibodies thought to be involved in autism. These antibodies attack the brain by targeting the basic building blocks of myelin, the insulating sheath that covers nerve fibres. This stops the nerves developing properly and may affect brain functions.

    None of the non-autistic children showed the unusual anti-measles response.

    Dr Singh has suggested that an abnormal immune response [caused by MMR] may be the root cause of many cases of autism. . . .

    The first-hand knowledge of one scientist, responsible for helping to develop two vaccines for human papillomavirus (HPV), including Gardasil, interestingly led her to vocally question the vaccines’ safety and effectiveness before backtracking and denying she ever questioned them. She says that the vaccines are just as dangerous, if not more so, than the disease they are meant to prevent, all while thousands of children as young as 9 are being given the vaccine, sometimes without parental consent.

    Dr. Diane Harper was a key developer of the Gardasil HPV vaccine. Beginning in 2009 she voiced several concerns about the vaccine and its counterpart Cervarix, saying they caused more harm than good.

    In an article published by CBS News, Dr. Harper says, “The rate of serious adverse events (from Gardasil) is on par with the death rate of cervical cancer. Gardasil has been associated with at least as many serious adverse events as there are deaths from cervical cancer developing each year.”

    She also said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) knowingly downplays the dangers of HPV vaccines by under-reporting adverse events including deaths. She even went so far as to say the vaccine does nothing, that it doesn’t even reduce the incidence of cervical cancer. . .
    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius

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    "I’m not a libertarian. I’m not advocating everyone run around with no clothes on and smoke pot." -- Enough said.
    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius

    They’re not buying it. CNN, you dumb bastards!” — President Trump 2020

    Consilio et Animis de Oppresso Liber

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    Time for a Wake Up Call – The Vaccination Hoax Debunked!

    By Raluca Schachter

    Contributing Writer for Wake Up World

    The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used. – Dr. James A. Shannon. National Institutes of Health

    Are you scared when you’re told you have to vaccinate your child with 49 doses in 14 vaccines before age 6? Or are you scared at the idea of not vaccinating and so “exposing” your child to serious illnesses? Are you scared about the school threatening you that if you don’t vaccinate you can’t enroll your child?

    FEAR. That’s what all these pro-vaccine campaigns are based on. As a parent, what’s the biggest scare of all? When your child gets sick with a serious disease and you feel responsible for that. As you see, vaccine supporters couldn’t go wrong with this and developed a dogma that’s been bought over and over again over the years by people. The magic insurance policy to solve it all.

    So, even if your child gets sick, at least you know you did everything you could for his/her health and vaccinated, right? But what if the very vaccination is able to cause the illness in the first place??

    Could The Vaccine Hoax Be Over?


    An extraordinary paper published by a courageous doctor and investigative medical researcher has dug the dirt on 30 years of secret official transcripts of meetings of UK government vaccine committees and the supposedly independent medical “experts” sitting on them with their drug industry connections.

    The 45 page paper with detailed evidence can be downloaded here: The vaccination policy and the Code of Practice of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI): are they at odds?

    The author, Dr Lucija Tomljenovic writes:

    Here I present the documentation which appears to show that the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) made continuous efforts to withhold critical data on severe adverse reactions and contraindications to vaccinations to both parents and health practitioners in order to reach overall vaccination rates which they deemed were necessary for “herd immunity”, a concept which with regards to vaccination, and contrary to prevalent beliefs, does not rest on solid scientific evidence as will be explained. As a result of such vaccination policy promoted by the JCVI and the UK Department of Health (DH),many children have been vaccinated without their parents being disclosed the critical information about demonstrated risks of serious adverse reactions, one that the JCVI appeared to have been fully aware of. It would also appear that, by withholding this information, the JCVI/DH neglected the right of individuals to make an informed consent concerning vaccination. By doing so, the JCVI/DH may have violated not only International Guidelines for Medical Ethics (i.e., Helsinki Declaration and the International Code of Medical Ethics) [2] but also, their own Code of Practice.

    The transcripts of the JCVI meetings also show that some of the Committee members had extensive ties to pharmaceutical companies and that the JCVI frequently co-operated with vaccine manufacturers on strategies aimed at boosting vaccine uptake. Some of the meetings at which such controversial items were discussed were not intended to be publicly available, as the transcripts were only released later, through the Freedom of Information Act (FOI). These particular meetings are denoted in the transcripts as “commercial in confidence”, and reveal a clear and disturbing lack of transparency, as some of the information was removed from the text (i.e., the names of the participants) prior to transcript release under the FOI section at the JCVI website (for example, JCVI CSM/DH (Committee on the Safety of Medicines/Department of Health) Joint Committee on Adverse Reactions Minutes 1986-1992).

    Information AGAINST vaccination is incredibly vast, believe it or not. Updated, most reliable sources and scientific data, as well as more and more medical doctors bring strong evidence about how harmful and unnecessary vaccination is.

    Continued...
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
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    Famous people are harder to silence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
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    Since you seem to want to simply attack the messenger in this case, care to comment on my thread with the same underlying topic?

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...95-Vaccinegate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston White View Post
    "I’m not a libertarian. I’m not advocating everyone run around with no clothes on and smoke pot." -- Enough said.
    What do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    What do you mean?
    That your view on this topic is as idiotic as the view being asserted by your sig.
    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius

    They’re not buying it. CNN, you dumb bastards!” — President Trump 2020

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    Good read.
    "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it."
    James Madison

    "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams



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    CDC vaccine-autism fraud: what victory looks like

    Jon Rappoport
    No More Fake News
    August 26th, 2014


    Here’s a clue: victory doesn’t look like a trickle of hidden data occasionally seeping out of a cavern.

    This is all about making a case. An explosive case.

    Most (honest) scientists don’t have a clue. They don’t know how or why a story explodes. They tend to favor the “trickle theory” of releasing information because it fits their notion of order and pattern.

    Order and pattern have nothing to do with the asymmetrical way a story expands.

    Maybe CDC whistleblower William Thompson eventually comes forward with a definitive public statement about egregious fraud at the CDC; maybe he doesn’t.

    Waiting for him to do the right thing is a loser’s game.

    There is another avenue to pursue:

    The CDC data that would reveal fraud.

    Data contradicting the CDC assertion that there is no connection between the MMR vaccine and autism.

    Whistleblower Thompson apparently claims the “no-connection” study was massaged, cooked, stepped on. Key pieces were buried.

    Where is that buried data? All of it. Who has it?

    I’m not talking about one or two pages we can barely see on a video.

    There are several people out there who state they have a trove of incriminating data.

    So: release it!

    Now.

    All of it.

    Every single page, with the CDC imprints, mastheads, dates, etc.

    —Data proving fraud, proving there was, in fact, knowledge that the MMR vaccine was, and is, connected to increased rates of autism.

    Release all that data; post it on websites around the world.

    No summaries—the raw material.

    I understand that, among honorable scientists who have this data right now, there is a strong tendency to want to organize it and comment on it and assess it down to the periods and commas and semi-colons.

    To those people, I say: you’re making a huge and potentially lethal mistake.

    Organize and comment and summarize and analyze to your heart’s content—after you post every shred of raw data for all to see.

    This isn’t an either-or issue.

    Nor is it an issue of “preserving data so experts can make judgments about it.”

    Dump the data online. Now.

    People mistakenly think that, once all the data are publicly available, “the story” will peter out and die.

    This belief has been used to support the drip-method journalists have deployed with the Edward Snowden material.

    One scandal today, another one next month, and so on.

    The truth is, releasing all the data has no ill effect on “the story” at all.

    We’re talking about parallel operations here. On one track, you dump all the data online. On a separate track, you do articles and videos homing in on various pieces of the material.

    You do both.

    This isn’t a debate among scientific colleagues who publish in the same journals and speak at the same conferences and teach at universities.

    This is a war.

    It’s a war against a major institution of government, the CDC, and its pharmaceutical, academic, and media partners.

    There is a trove of data that proves the CDC has engaged in criminal fraud, has exonerated a vaccine that actually causes brain damage? Release the data.

    What are you waiting for?

    Whistleblower William Thompson supposedly sent this trove of data to several scientists—they have it. They’ve had it for a while.

    Are they using it to stuff a couch?

    “Well, you see, if we release all the data, most people won’t understand what it means. They’re not technically trained.”

    So what?

    Who cares?

    There are thousands of people out there who are a) technically trained and b) have independent minds.

    “Well, people need someone to interpret the data for them.”

    Fine. You interpret it. After you’ve released all of it.

    “If we release all of it now, scientists who are part of the establishment will twist it and claim it proves nothing.”

    Those scientists are already calling you liars. They twist and obfuscate for a living. Once you release all the data, yes, they will undoubtedly say it proves nothing. Then it’s your job to show they’re wrong.

    Can you handle that?

    If you’ve got the goods, lay them out on the table.

    Many thousands of smart people around the world are going to come to your defense and blow this whole thing sky-high.

    The CDC will begin to scurry like rats, and some of those rats will come out and confess their sins. Old sins. New sins. Sins you haven’t even imagined.

    THIS is how a story builds.

    You expose everything you have, and then new whistleblowers show up to spill secrets that are far more incriminating than the secrets you’ve exposed.

    By holding back the data you have, you slow down the process and even stop it.

    Release. All. The. Incriminating. Data.

    Now.

    Start a storm.

    There is this little thing called the Internet. It can create enormous force, if enough people climb on board.

    Reflect on the untold numbers of mothers with autistic children, and the mothers of the future who will have autistic children. Do you really think they care about trickle theory and timed-release?

    I’ve met some of those current mothers and talked to them. They don’t live in ivory towers.

    I can tell you, they take no prisoners.

    They want your data. All of it.

    Give it to them.

    Jon Rappoport
    Last edited by donnay; 08-26-2014 at 04:23 PM.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Weston White View Post
    That your view on this topic is as idiotic as the view being asserted by your sig.
    That was a quote from Rand unfortunately.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    This is so weird without Angela here to defend the state and their regulators. Why has she been gone for so long?
    She comes and goes, I got a Neg Rep from her on a vaccine thread just over a month ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    She comes and goes, I got a Neg Rep from her on a vaccine thread just over a month ago.
    Yeah, but also silent is zippy!
    Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder. ~GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter, Aug. 17, 1779

    Quit yer b*tching and whining and GET INVOLVED!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    Yeah, but also silent is zippy!
    He was trawling the Bill Gates thread, Hearken! I hear his approaching hoof beats.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    He was trawling the Bill Gates thread, Hearken! I hear his approaching hoof beats.
    The govt must not have sent out the talking points memo yet.
    Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder. ~GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter, Aug. 17, 1779

    Quit yer b*tching and whining and GET INVOLVED!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    The govt must not have sent out the talking points memo yet.
    That, and he's busy researching the best vaccine to protect him from mosquitobites
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    Sorry- I thought somebody said they had absolute proof that vaccines caused Autism. I was still waiting for the proof to be presented.

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    Speak of the devil!
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
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    The rise in autism rates also correlates with increased internet and cell phone usage. Does that make them a cause?
    (Correlation is not causation)

    During that time the definition of what is considered to be autism has also been greatly expanded- including people who would not have been considered autistic in the past (it is Autism Spectrum Disorder- a spectrum of symptoms- it is subjective and there is no definitive test to say if somebody is autistic or not).

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The rise in autism rates also correlates with increased internet and cell phone usage. Does that make them a cause?
    (Correlation is not causation)

    During that time the definition of what is considered to be autism has also been greatly expanded- including people who would not have been considered autistic in the past (it is Autism Spectrum Disorder- a spectrum of symptoms- it is subjective and there is no definitive test to say if somebody is autistic or not).
    And neither is misdirection. (The Internet, really? Seriously, really?) You keep asking for proof and then pathetically disregard it whenever it is presented to you.

    "Huh? Heidi Stevenson of Gaia Health easily debunked this flaw-filled study and concluded that it implicated the vaccine-autism link even more. The brains progressive enlarging synchronized with the CDC’s recommended vaccine schedule."


    Two landmark events – a government concession in the US Vaccine Court, and a groundbreaking scientific paper – confirm that physician, scientist, and Autism Media Channel [AMC] Director, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, and the parents were right all along.

    In a recently published December 13, 2012 vaccine court ruling, hundreds of thousands of dollars were awarded to Ryan Mojabi, [i] whose parents described how “MMR vaccinations,” caused a “severe and debilitating injury to his brain, diagnosed as Autism Spectrum Disorder (‘ASD’).”

    Later the same month, the government suffered a second major defeat when young Emily Moller from Houston won compensation following vaccine-related brain injury that, once again, involved MMR and resulted in autism. The cases follow similar successful petitions in the Italian and US courts (including Hannah Poling [ii], Bailey Banks [iii], Misty Hyatt [iv], Kienan Freeman [v], Valentino Bocca [vi], and Julia Grimes [vii]) in which the governments conceded or the court ruled that vaccines had caused brain injury. In turn, this injury led to an ASD diagnosis. MMR vaccine was the common denominator in these cases.

    And today, scientists and physicians from Wake Forest University, New York, and Venezuela, reported findings that not only confirm the presence of intestinal disease in children with autism and intestinal symptoms, but also indicate that this disease may be novel. [viii] Using sophisticated laboratory methods Dr. Steve Walker and his colleagues endorsed Wakefield’s original findings by showing molecular changes in the children’s intestinal tissues that were highly distinctive and clearly abnormal.
    Last edited by Weston White; 08-27-2014 at 11:04 PM.
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  31. #27
    To me the best argument against vaccines is that they were developed by the Nazis. You can bet your bottom dollar that it is a eugenics program and they don't care how it harms the people who carry the genetics that they are meant to destroy.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    To me the best argument against vaccines is that they were developed by the Nazis. You can bet your bottom dollar that it is a eugenics program and they don't care how it harms the people who carry the genetics that they are meant to destroy.

    Vaccines were not invented by the Nazis.

    http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/timelines/all

    The story of vaccines did not begin with the first vaccine–Edward Jenner’s use of material from cowpox pustules to provide protection against smallpox. Rather, it begins with the long history of infectious disease in humans, and in particular, with early uses of smallpox material to provide immunity to that disease.

    Evidence exists that the Chinese employed smallpox inoculation (or variolation, as such use of smallpox material was called) as early as 1000 CE. It was practiced in Africa and Turkey as well, before it spread to Europe and the Americas.

    Edward Jenner’s innovations, begun with his successful 1796 use of cowpox material to create immunity to smallpox, quickly made the practice widespread. His method underwent medical and technological changes over the next 200 years, and eventually resulted in the eradication of smallpox.

    Louis Pasteur’s 1885 rabies vaccine was the next to make an impact on human disease. And then, at the dawn of bacteriology, developments rapidly followed. Antitoxins and vaccines against diphtheria, tetanus, anthrax, cholera, plague, typhoid, tuberculosis, and more were developed through the 1930s.

    The middle of the 20th century was an active time for vaccine research and development. Methods for growing viruses in the laboratory led to rapid discoveries and innovations, including the creation of vaccines for polio. Researchers targeted other common childhood diseases such as measles, mumps, and rubella, and vaccines for these diseases reduced the disease burden greatly.
    Though they did develop a typhus vaccine.
    http://www.npr.org/2014/07/22/333734...tic-laboratory

    If vaccines are a eugenics program they should be killing millions of people since millions of doses are given each year. How may people have been killed by vaccines? How many "destroyed"? Why have populations been rising more and more with more and more vaccines being administered?
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 08-27-2014 at 11:54 AM.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Vaccines were not invented by the Nazis.

    http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/timelines/all


    Though they did develop a typhus vaccine.
    http://www.npr.org/2014/07/22/333734...tic-laboratory

    If vaccines are a eugenics program they should be killing millions of people since millions of doses are given each year. How may people have been killed by vaccines? How many "destroyed"? Why have populations been rising more and more with more and more vaccines being administered?
    Eugenics are being done in increments just like the eroding of our freedoms. I think you need to do some research on who owns big pharma pal...Let me ask you this what are the stats on the number of people with cancers who have been vaccinated?

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    Eugenics are being done in increments just like the eroding of our freedoms. I think you need to do some research on who owns big pharma pal...Let me ask you this what are the stats on the number of people with cancers who have been vaccinated?
    What is the number of people whose cancer has actually been shown to be caused by vaccines since you seem to feel there is a connection? (over 90% of the US population has been vaccinated so certainly there are people with cancer who received some vaccine as well as people who never got cancer who also got some sort of vaccine- maybe the vaccines actually prevented their cancer?) A lot of people who received vaccines were involved in automobile accidents. Did the vaccine cause the accidents? (Correlation is not causation).

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