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    Foley video faked

    Foley murder video 'may have been staged'
    Analysts believe the British jihadi in the video may not have been James Foley's killer, although it is accepted that the journalist was murdered
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalis...en-staged.html

    he video of James Foley’s execution may have been staged, with the actual murder taking place off-camera, it has emerged.

    Forensic analysis of the footage of the journalist’s death has suggested that the British jihadist in the film may have been the frontman rather than the killer.

    The clip, which apparently depicts Mr Foley’s brutal beheading, has been widely seen as a propaganda coup for Islamic State miltant group.

    But a study of the four-minute 40-second clip, carried out by an international forensic science company which has worked for police forces across Britain, suggested camera trickery and slick post-production techniques appear to have been used.

    A forensic analyst told The Times that no blood can be seen, even though the knife is drawn across the neck area at least six times.
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    “After enhancements, the knife can be seen to be drawn across the upper neck at least six times, with no blood evidence to the point the picture fades to black,” the analysis said.

    Sounds allegedly made by Foley do not appear consistent with what may be expected.

    During Foley’s speech, there appears to be a blip which could indicate the journalist had to repeat a line.

    One expert commissioned to examine the footage was reported as saying: “I think it has been staged. My feeling is that the execution may have happened after the camera was stopped.”

    However the company, which requested anonymity, did not reach a definitive answer.

    It concluded: “No one is disputing that at some point an execution occurred.”
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    Why fake the video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolil View Post
    Why fake the video?
    Because that is how the CIA rolls.
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    Did something go wrong during the execution? What is to be gained by mock killing someone, and then killing them. Unless the video is one of the mock executions that I understand frequently happen to the captured.

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    Now wouldn't that be something.
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    what do they gain by doing this off camera?

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    I'd like to know if Foley is reading a set script before the execution - it looks like it to me.

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    Oh, you mean he wasn't already dead before his head was lopped? Well, of course, that never happens. Those people are full of terror!!!!
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    Let me guess: He really died of kidney failure in 1997.
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    Faked? Or not? From the article:
    However the company, which requested anonymity, did not reach a definitive answer.

    It concluded: “No one is disputing that at some point an execution occurred.”

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    Or he was never killed at all.

    anybody got the body?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Or he was never killed at all.

    anybody got the body?
    Dumped at sea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Or he was never killed at all.

    anybody got the body?
    Exactly what I thought. If the killing is faked on the video how do we know Mr. Foley is dead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    Let me guess: He really died of kidney failure in 1997.
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  20. #17
    Articles by James Foley:
    http://www.globalpost.com/bio/James%2520Foley/articles

    IMO it fleshes it all out a bit, and I was curious as to who and what is actually being beheaded.
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    I've been saying it since the day the supposed beheading came out... tube or it didn't happen. I've yet to see an execution of Foley on film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Exactly what I thought. If the killing is faked on the video how do we know Mr. Foley is dead?
    Perhaps they mailed his head to the NY Times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Exactly what I thought. If the killing is faked on the video how do we know Mr. Foley is dead?
    Foley has probably been dead and dust in the desert for over 2 years on solid intellegence.

    The "Beheading" was CIA propoganda; a false flag

    The two people are actors; Foley's face is CGI.

    The after shot is a still image panoromic.


    That's my tinfoil... I'm sticking to it.

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    My wife said she thought it seemed skeptical too. My beleif is he was killed probably off screen after the video shoot and then beheaded.

    1. The knife looked very dull and when the sawing started, there was no blood at all and the video remained recording for several seconds. Had he have been sawing into his neck blood would have been pouring out.

    2. The video fades out and then too a picture of the decapitated body

    3. Other videos of beheadings do not shy away from the actual act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Foley has probably been dead and dust in the desert for over 2 years on solid intellegence.

    The "Beheading" was CIA propoganda; a false flag

    The two people are actors; Foley's face is CGI.

    The after shot is a still image panoromic.


    That's my tinfoil... I'm sticking to it.
    Sounds about right, but knowing the CIA MO, I'd say a look-alike.
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    WHY DO WE STILL LET THE MEDIA TERRORIZE US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    WHY DO WE STILL LET THE MEDIA TERRORIZE US?
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    White House: Foley video is authentic
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    5 days ago - The video depicts the execution of photojournalist James Foley by ... in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is authentic, the White House said Wednesday.



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    I'm also on the skeptical side of this story.

    One reason is that it doesn't seem "human" to just sit there on your knees while someone slices of your head. No struggle? Who kneels there like that? No fight?

    Why fake it? Dramatic effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolil View Post
    Why fake the video?
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  31. #27
    I like how Foley had a haircut and shave before his killing.

    Also damn that's some perfect lighting, I film outside pretty often and those guys are using lights and color grading. Alli that for a beheading?
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    If people pay good money to see Hollyweird thrillers, you can see how they use special effects make their story believable.
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    I did not watch the video, have no interest in watching it, but do have a question. So how does this work? The person just kneels in a submissive state, awaiting their fate?

    Perhaps this video is edited, but because the person decided to go fighting? I have to think that I would rather be stabbed or slashed to death while biting and swearing, rather than sitting on my knees.

    Also, such videos do fuel a hatred. Whether they really happen or not, I can see them being effective in perpetuating the so called "war on terror".

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