Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit
So now we know. The white house says it is authentic, er go, it is fake.
Im not endorsing the validity of the video, but if you were held prisoner for 2 years and tortured Im pretty sure 99% of people would be submissive if
A. You read some script and die rather quickly
B. You fight back and get tortured indefinitely.
A society that places equality before freedom with get neither; A society that places freedom before equality will yield high degrees of both
Make a move and plead the 5th because you can't plead the 1st
lol....sound stages/movie sets/cgi and green screen garbage is the norm from the media and gov't. There's a longer version of this interview that shows some guy hanging out by the "window" too and the cameraman moves the camera to hide it.
Last edited by devil21; 08-25-2014 at 02:00 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
ive seen almost every beheading vid there is. i like to watch all war vids to see whats really going on. this vid did seem just odd in every way. this is the only one ive ever saw where the guy wasnt shown actually getting his head cut off. they love showing that on film. why not this one?
thats all.
Watch the tube. There is no gore. Its staged.
You see a plastic stage knife "slit a throat" repeatedly without blood in a sawing action. 6 sawing motions in... the scene cuts to a still panoramic image of photoshopped bloody beheaded body.
Agreed. I take the uncensored path too. Tube is a bogus psyop. The fact that the white house authenticates it... that makes it a false flag psyop.
Last edited by presence; 08-25-2014 at 06:26 PM.
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...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...
Looks like UK's Barcaly Brothers newspaper is behind it.
You think that rather than green screening a living room (which you claim they do), they physically built one just for this interview? And then did it poorly / unprofessionally? This makes even less sense than your usual theories.
Seek help.
So apparently an undisclosed top forensic's firm claims that the actual video is fake. This claim of the video being a fake is a FACT. The only thing in my mind that needs investigating is if Foley's alleged death. He could have died years/months ago or could very well be alive. If someone could provide sources for this, I would be interested in it.
On a side note, is anyone of the more tinfoiled hat leaning members here a little surprised that a fake video like this is allowed to presented as Gospel? I can understand if you believe they killed the guy shortly after, but the hollywood execution? Really?
I must be spot on if you're replying.
Uhh, it's a couple cheap walls (obviously, since it can't even support a nail holding a picture) with a few prop pieces set up to look like a room. Green screen is much more expensive and is reserved for more complex and prominent fakery, like Obama interviews.
Last edited by devil21; 08-25-2014 at 09:10 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Well. I had kind of brought this up in the other thread. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post5623544
It's interesting that now we hear of this.
Last edited by Natural Citizen; 08-25-2014 at 09:13 PM.
My immediate reaction to the video was the same as yours. It seemed very unnatural and far too polished given the subject matter.
It could be that the thing was cleaned up because it was meant for American citizens to immediately see too. It was basically press ready. That's another way to look at it.
Last edited by Natural Citizen; 08-25-2014 at 09:53 PM.
Syrian Government: James Foley Killed a Year Ago
Fresh doubt thrown on veracity of beheading video
Image Credits: ISIS
by Paul Joseph Watson | August 26, 2014
Fresh doubt has been thrown on the narrative behind the James Foley beheading video after a Syrian government spokesperson claimed that the American journalist was killed by ISIS militants a year ago.
Following the release of a video last week which purported to show the murder of Foley, top forensic experts concluded that the footage was staged using “camera trickery and slick post-production techniques,” concurring with Infowars’ analysis that the video was highly dubious given that it was immediately used as justification for military strikes on Syria.
Official Syrian government spokesperson Bouthaina Shaaban has now complicated matters further by asserting that Foley was in fact murdered by Islamic State militants a year ago.
“James Foley was first arrested by the Free Syrian Army and he was sold to ISIS [an earlier name for the IS]. You can check with the UN…James Foley was killed a year ago, not now, they only released the pictures now, but he was killed a year ago. We have definite information, the UN has the information,” said Shaaban.
The claim contradicts the narrative that Foley’s family received a letter on August 12 from ISIS militants threatening to execute the journalist if Barack Obama gave the green light for air strikes on Islamic State militants in Iraq.
Continued...
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
You're revealing your total lack of knowledge.
Green screen is free. It costs nothing.
Oh, well, you just sorted me all out then. Forget everything I said in this thread about it all being FAKE. Forget all about the fact that the beheading video is a fraud and these media interviews are fake. Just remember that devil21 said professional green screen productions are more expensive than a couple paper thin fake walls and junk props. TheCount says green screen production is free. You sure shot my credibility to $#@! with that nugget. /sarc
Green screen is free. It costs nothing.
I'll be sure to email this green screen studio right outside of DC and let them know TheCount said their services should be free. Seems they didn't get your memo that green screen is free:
http://www.gearshift.tv/practice_are...x-virginia.cfm
QUESTION #5 - Is your budget more or less than $3k? We are not a cheap video solution so if you are price shopping we put ourselves in to the Mercedes/BMW category. There are more expensive video projects that would compare to a Ferrari or Lamborghini and there are the budget friendly projects priced like Honda and Toyota. To be noticed on the roads you need to pay a little more and the same goes with video.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Totally legit:
That's the way it is, unfortunately. None of us really knows what goes on in the mind of people before they are executed, but we see the same compliant behavior every time. Jews lining up for the gas chambers. Criminals standing before a firing squad, or standing silently on the execution platform waiting to be hanged.
I understand where you're coming from, you want to go down fighting. But thinking about it and actually living it are two different things I suppose.
Green screen production is so expensive, it's only done by the Weather Channel, every news station everywhere, half of Youtube, every cheap TV advertisement you've ever seen, every infomercial you've ever seen, etc. etc. etc. Your claim is completely ridiculous.
plus
https://fxhome.com/
or (fancier)
http://www.redgiant.com/products/all/primatte-keyer/
And you're done.
When you rent a studio you're getting the space, the cameras, the lighting, the staff, etc. All of that you would still need if you did the exact same shoot with a physical structure that you built. The difference is that with the physical object, you need craftsmen to build the thing as well as materials. It will cost more. With green screen, the same equipment can be every single different environment that you want to shoot. In other words, the more videos you produce, the cost savings grow larger and larger.
M..Mmm..may...maybe it's their brother's g...ghost.....
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"I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."
I think you'd look more cowardly that way.
And I think people accept their fate long before it happens.
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The people who made this video have more resources than the vast government conspiracy.
Stop thread derailing about the nuances of cost of green screen production. You're losing this one badly and it's plain to anyone that's not here to troll this forum.
BEHEADING VIDEO IS FAKE, MSM INTERVIEWS ARE FAKE! IT'S STAGED PROPAGANDA AND IT'S FAKE!
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Let's throw some more gas on this fire, shall we?
Last edited by devil21; 08-28-2014 at 07:17 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Don't be mad at me that your beliefs/theories make no sense. It's not my fault, I'm just pointing it out.
I was just about to post this same photo. Good lookin' out!
"When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system's game. The establishment will irritate you - pull your beard, flick your face - to make you fight, because once they've got you violent then they know how to handle you. The only thing they don't know how to handle is non-violence and humor. "
---John Lennon
"I EAT NEOCONS FOR BREAKFAST!!!"
---Me
It would be awesome if we could get this guy together with that guy who thinks everyone looks alike and watch them go at it.
Doesn't the brother look remarkably like an older Elliot Rodger from the Santa Barbara 'shooting'?
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
I suppose so, if Rodger was about 10 to 12 years older and filled out a bit. In the girl(s)' case though, I can make out very few differences in their faces that aren't easily put down to lighting, camera angle, and hair & makeup stylists. They are either the same exact person, or dead-ringers.
Last edited by BuddyRey; 08-28-2014 at 08:15 PM.
"When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system's game. The establishment will irritate you - pull your beard, flick your face - to make you fight, because once they've got you violent then they know how to handle you. The only thing they don't know how to handle is non-violence and humor. "
---John Lennon
"I EAT NEOCONS FOR BREAKFAST!!!"
---Me
^^ the one on the top is a dude.
Let's throw some more gas on this fire, shall we?
Yeah, sure, if they moved her nose farther away from her lips, changed the shape of her eyes, made her cheekbones less pronounced, made her chin more bulbous, and replaced every single one of her teeth:
Starting @ 1:00:
Whole video:
http://nodisinfo.com/alex-israel-ano...ological-liar/
This is a case where very carefully selected screenshots can give an impression that is definitely not there in the full video.
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