Realistically, who is likely to be Rand's VP choice?

[Krugminator2]

African-Americans will not support Ben Carson. I think Huntsman, Haley, and Demint are all realistic



Why would he pick some1 on record for being an anarchist, hating Lincoln, and also having incredibly hardcore views on the constitution and much more. Napolitano is literally the most hardcore libertarian alive today.

I like how the original topic was supposed to be "Realistically, who is likely to be Rand's VP choice?" and Judge Napolitano is listed. Why not Dr. Keith Ablow or Judge Judy? Instead of Ben Carson, why not Karl Malone or 50 Cent? They're all Republicans.

Rand will have to raise around a billion dollars in the next election to have legitimate chance. Ben Carson, TV celebrities, and minor Congressmen would not even come a million miles from discussion. Truthfully I bet if Rand won the GOP nomination today, his top choice would be Jeb Bush. That might not be what people would want to hear. And Bush may not want to be his VP, but I would say that Bush would be an overwhelming favorite to be his first choice. I even think he would strongly consider Christie if Christie wanted the job.

[Christian Liberty]

I like how the original topic was supposed to be "Realistically, who is likely to be Rand's VP choice?" and Judge Napolitano is listed. Why not Dr. Keith Ablow or Judge Judy? Instead of Ben Carson, why not Karl Malone or 50 Cent? They're all Republicans.

Rand will have to raise around a billion dollars in the next election to have legitimate chance. Ben Carson, TV celebrities, and minor Congressmen would not even come a million miles from discussion. Truthfully I bet if Rand won the GOP nomination today, his top choice would be Jeb Bush. That might not be what people would want to hear. And Bush may not want to be his VP, but I would say that Bush would be an overwhelming favorite to be his first choice.

My question to Rand would be, do you want to get shot, or are you actually stupid enough to think TPTB wouldn't be gunning for you if you did that?

[TheTyke]

This is a really sticky problem for me. I don't want yet another establishment person next in line for the presidency... that could undermine all we've fought for. On the other hand, there are the political considerations and I just don't know who we have. Our movement really needs to elect more folks in smaller races so we have a broader bench.

I just hope Rand has a good solution on this. But he usually is a few steps ahead on strategy, so I'm at least hopeful.

[Christian Liberty]

This is a really sticky problem for me. I don't want yet another establishment person next in line for the presidency... that could undermine all we've fought for. On the other hand, there are the political considerations and I just don't know who we have. Our movement really needs to elect more folks in smaller races so we have a broader bench.

I just hope Rand has a good solution on this. But he usually is a few steps ahead on strategy, so I'm at least hopeful.

That's true. But, is Rand conspirational enough to believe that TPTB might try to kill him? I am. And if Rand isn't, that's a concern for me.

[Vanguard101]

African-Americans won't flock to Carson. Carson makes comments on par with Allen West and Hermain Cain. He will be portrayed as an Uncle Tom.

[anaconda]

So...what about Carson will be different in 2016 that will suddenly get him African-American support? If he has any strong evangelical Christian African-American support right now, they sure are an overwhelming minority among African Americans.

Much wider impending name recognition and familiarity. And he may be the only African American in the race and his message seems like it might be quite compelling for African Americans.

[anaconda]

It will be Susana Martinez

If she advances to the Presidency for some reason, will she immediately hand over the keys to the Council On Foreign Relations?

[NaturalMystic]

How would the evangelicals feel about Carson being Adventist?

[presence]

Why not Dr. Keith Ablow or Judge Judy?

If Judge Judy was VP I'd renounce citizenship.

[CPUd]

Whoever is the running mate on the hypothetical ticket would require approval from 3 out of 5:

Sheldon Adelson
Karl Rove
Rush Limbaugh
Koch Industries
Mitt Romney

[extortion17]

Whoever is the running mate on the hypothetical ticket would require approval from 3 out of 5:

Sheldon Adelson
Karl Rove
Rush Limbaugh
Koch Industries
Mitt Romney

If you include Flipper Romney in the list, then I get to include that approval would also be needed from the previous 2008 GOP Presidential nominee . . .
the Double Talk Express himself . . .




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[erowe1]

Amash

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Ben Carson is a realistic choice.

Both are doctors, Carson has a national following and a strong reputation in conservative circles, Carson will help with the African-American vote - which is something Rand has been really pushing for. I think if Rand gets the nomination, Carson will be his choice.

Not realistic at all.

He most likely has no intention to run and no experience.

He also said on national tv that he tried to stab a man as a teenager... he hasnt been vetted for the main stage what-so-ever.

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Whoever is the running mate on the hypothetical ticket would require approval from 3 out of 5:

Sheldon Adelson
Karl Rove
Rush Limbaugh
Koch Industries
Mitt Romney

This is a more realistic attitude.

Just face facts everyone, if Rand is the choice he will need a hawk-leaning social conservative as VP, in order to bring together the party. Not a libertarian.

[Shane Harris]

Raul Labrador or a decent Governor of a preferably blue state

[Vanguard101]

Carson has plans to run. He's showing it too. Koch Brothers will definitely back Rand...unless they aren't libertarian

[erowe1]

Carson has plans to run. He's showing it too. Koch Brothers will definitely back Rand...unless they aren't libertarian

They supported Trey Grayson against him in the Senate primary.

[erowe1]

This is a more realistic attitude.

Just face facts everyone, if Rand is the choice he will need a hawk-leaning social conservative as VP, in order to bring together the party. Not a libertarian.

I don't see why that's realistic. We're talking about after he already won the nomination.

[CaptUSA]

Realistically?

It won't make many of us happy. He will have to calm the establishment in order to preserve the party if he should win the primaries. Otherwise, it will be Bull Moose II. This is what the Democrats are salivating about. (Last time, they got Wilson elected.)

So who could calm the party and still fit in with Rand? My shortlist would include:

John Kasich
Mitch Daniels
Maybe Portman, but he's never been an executive.

[cajuncocoa]

This is a more realistic attitude.

Just face facts everyone, if Rand is the choice he will need a hawk-leaning social conservative as VP, in order to bring together the party. Not a libertarian.

I tend to agree, and am bracing myself for this reality. I hope we're wrong, but unless the GOP wants half of their base (you know, the ones who haven't been educated...the ones who watch FOX News all day and hang on Limbaugh's every word) to stay home on election day, they're probably going to urge Rand to go this route.

[erowe1]

Mitch Daniels

That's an interesting possibility.

Rand's VP has to be able to campaign and keep a straight face defending Rand's platform. It can't be someone who can't realistically do that.

Daniels might be someone who could.

[asurfaholic]

VP thread #142 / 3753 variation "c"

Why can't we concentrate on winning the nomination before start bickering over who gets the most insignificant job in America?

[erowe1]

VP thread #142 / 3753 variation "c"

Why can't we concentrate on winning the nomination before start bickering over who gets the most insignificant job in America?

You might as well just accept that you're going to see a new VP thread at least every week for the next 2 years.

It's like graffiti in mens' bathroom stalls. First it annoys you. Then you don't even notice it. Then you start to get comfortable with it, and feel like you're enjoying a sweet communion with those who have defecated there before you.

[mosquitobite]

If she advances to the Presidency for some reason, will she immediately hand over the keys to the Council On Foreign Relations?

This is *the* most important question for VP. If people don't understand that, they still haven't swallowed the red pill.

[erowe1]

Truthfully I bet if Rand won the GOP nomination today, his top choice would be Jeb Bush.

Hogwash. Every name you listed, including 50 Cent, is more realistic.

[TaftFan]

Daniels and DeMint would both be good because they have a liberty bent, are likeable rather than polarizing, and they won't overshadow Rand height wise. They are both similar in that recently have they have taken administrative roles outside of politics. Daniels has been innovative as Perdue University's President, and of course DeMint has headed up the Heritage Foundation.

Daniels would reinforce the social issues "truce" Rand is positioning himself to take. Daniels actually coined the term. But DeMint would solidify the more conservative base, which I think is more important considering Rand's appeals to the left, minorities, and independents. Experience wise, Daniel's time as Governor is a plus but he is also tied to the Bush administration where he was OMB director. We know DeMint and Rand worked well together as Senators, and a good relationship is important to have.

Between Daniels, DeMint, and Labrador, who I have advocated for as well, they are the realistic possibilities are who aren't big government hacks. Right now though, I would prefer DeMint.

[asurfaholic]

You might as well just accept that you're going to see a new VP thread at least every week for the next 2 years.

It's like graffiti in mens' bathroom stalls. First it annoys you. Then you don't even notice it. Then you start to get comfortable with it, and feel like you're enjoying a sweet communion with those who have defecated there before you.

Lol pure gold

I mean I know as a discussion board everything under the sun is going to be discussed, it just strikes me as an unnecessary topic to be discussed with so much frequency.

Just seems counterproductive given the monumental goal of winning the nomination.

[Christian Liberty]

I tend to agree, and am bracing myself for this reality. I hope we're wrong, but unless the GOP wants half of their base (you know, the ones who haven't been educated...the ones who watch FOX News all day and hang on Limbaugh's every word) to stay home on election day, they're probably going to urge Rand to go this route.

I don't know that they'd stay home. The average Republican told us "anyone but Obama" in 2012, and that's something we could use against them.

I can't think of a single Republican I've talked to in person who said they would refuse to vote for Ron Paul if he had been the GOP nominee. Rand is more moderate than Ron.

[TaftFan]

VP thread #142 / 3753 variation "c"

Why can't we concentrate on winning the nomination before start bickering over who gets the most insignificant job in America?

Rand hasn't even announced, what do you want us to do? I mean, I've already done a ton of opposition research on his opponents and made websites cataloging it, but there is only so much to do at this point.

I find these discussions much more enjoyable than cop shoots dog threads.

[Todd]

how about his daddy.
That way we could get everyone back on board at this place.