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    Why do Whites and minorities view the police differently?

    It seems like every time a police shooting like the one in Ferguson, there seems to be a racial divide. With the minorities on one side (usually the side of the person getting shot) and the white (caucasians) on the side of law enforcement.

    Now it's not 100% but I am sure from watching the difference in coverage between say MSNBC and FOX that there is a racial divide on that.

    So I propose that question to you guys. Why do whites tend to take the cops side while minorites tend to take the other side? Is it because minorities are criminals and so they take the criminals side as suggested by some members on this forum?

    Here is an interesting study from New York's stop and frisk law:

    One in five people stopped last year by the New York City police department was a teenager between the ages of 14 and 18, according to a WNYC analysis of recently released police data.

    Eighty-six percent of those teenagers who were stopped were either black or Latino, most of them boys.

    Last year, there were more than 120,000 stops of black and Latino kids between 14 and 18. The total number of black and Latino boys that age in the entire city isn’t much more than that – about 177,000 – which strongly suggests a teen male with dark skin in New York City will probably get stopped and frisked by the time he’s graduated from high school.

    The debate about stop and frisk’s racial disparities comes down to opponents who say it racially profiles and supporters who say the people stopped fit the descriptions of most suspects. The conversation, until now, has been dominated by lawyers, politicians, police officials and community leaders.

    But ask junior high and high school students around the city, from affluent to low-income neighborhoods, and most appear to agree on one main premise: who gets stopped and frisked has everything to do with where you live and what color your skin is.
    source: http://www.wnyc.org/story/212460-cit...ace-and-class/

    120,000 out of 177,000 black and latino kids were stopped and frisked. Now ask yourself this, if you are white and live in a city where 120,000 out 177,000 white kids were stopped and frisked, how would your perception of cops be?



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    Many minorities support police shooting first or prison rape for anyone suspected of being racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandallFan View Post
    Many minorities support police shooting first or prison rape for anyone suspected of being racist.
    Source please.

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    To answer the title question-it's because police treat them differently and always have.
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    What did black leaders and many black pundits say should happen to Zimmerman? He should be thrown into the general population, where they knew he would be raped or killed.
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    Well, when you're on the menu, whites rush into the arms of the police for good or bad.



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    It might have something to do with african americans being incarcerated at a rate 5 times greater than that of caucasians... "walking while black"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    It might have something to do with african americans being incarcerated at a rate 5 times greater than that of caucasians... "walking while black"
    It's largely the astronomical murder rate that really grabs one's eyes. As much as there is a compelling argument that blacks aren't afforded the same benefit of the doubt in terms of nonviolent drug offenses, the comparative murder rates are so off the charts that a lot of that goes out the window. Only 13% of the population and commits half of all annual murders? [jaw proceeds to drop]
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    I must be an exception to this statistic.





    Hell,, there are bunches of White Americans that have no use for Police..

    WTF is wrong with the rest of them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    I must be an exception to this statistic.





    Hell,, there are bunches of White Americans that have no use for Police..

    WTF is wrong with the rest of them?
    Judging by how people react when this subject comes up, I would say a combination of ignorance, naivety, and being saturated by cop propaganda in media, schools, etc.
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    Hell I know plenty of white people that aren't too partial to LE and try not to go any business with them.

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    I don't know about a racial divide. Are you siding with the police if you take a wait and see approach? Can anyone know exactly what happened if they did not witness the killing? I tend not to take anyone's side.
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    haha

    "Whites"

    I mean, what kinda of white? Starbucks N Scarves or white guys with loud bikes that literally build their hierarchy based on who's more of a pysco killer?

    Im sure the latter isn't very fond of the fuzz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandallFan View Post
    Many minorities support police shooting first or prison rape for anyone suspected of being racist.
    I was really on the fence until someone, such as yourself, with such an extensive posting history interjected your opinion. Now I know how to think. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    I must be an exception to this statistic.





    Hell,, there are bunches of White Americans that have no use for Police..

    WTF is wrong with the rest of them?
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    I'm white, generally side against "law enforcement."

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    I'm white, generally side against "law enforcement."
    "law enforcement" and Police are two distinctly different things.
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    I would guess the amount that a person is anti-cop is directly proportional to the amount of interactions they have with cops.
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    Why do Whites and minorities view the police differently?
    Because they don't.

    A person's view on Police is dictated by personality type, situation and experience.
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    If John Shaft was real many blacks would support his activity.

    Many blacks support the lawlessness of Eric Holder and Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I would guess the amount that a person is anti-cop is directly proportional to the amount of interactions they have with cops.
    I am proof that this is false. I've had no interactions with them, and yet I don't like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandallFan View Post
    What did black leaders and many black pundits say should happen to Zimmerman? He should be thrown into the general population, where they knew he would be raped or killed.
    I never heard Obama say this. Unless, you don't consider Obama a "black leader." Can you name some of the "black leaders" who said this? Sources would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Because they don't.

    A person's view on Police is dictated by personality type, situation and experience.
    A person's philosophy should be included on that list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    I would guess the amount that a person is anti-cop is directly proportional to the amount of interactions they have with cops.
    That's about how I see it for the ordinaries. I have no need for any , nor do I wish to see them or have any contact with them , because they are dangerous , violent and above the law in a society of retarded law. If a person has not experienced that , they of course will be ignorant.

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    I am white and have been stopped and frisked probably more than the overwhelming majority of blacks. (aside from that one guy who was arrested some 50 times at work and frisked a couple hundred)

    I've lost count on how many times I've been harassed, stopped, detained, arrested, etc. Well over 20 major times that well should have resulted in a lawsuit and no less than 50 minor times where they just wanted to fight, for example. I forget about a lot of them, actually, unless it was particularly egregious.

    Needless to say, $#@! the police. The most counterproductive litter of bed bugs to ever exist. And I'm saying that being fairly well read on the regulatory agencies strangling productivity.
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    Could be because the police don't routinely hassle white folks ..... or need to. It's all just a numbers and probability scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Could be because the police don't routinely hassle white folks ..... or need to. It's all just a numbers and probability scenario.
    Lol.

    Black folks need hassled?

    Perhaps you should check the statistics on how successful stop and frisk campaigns have been.
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    The looting doesn't help public image. I think a lot of white people watching the news and seeing rim shops being raided and people bashing convenience store windows, might sway them to the side of cops.

    Now, if you saw people protecting private property while directing their anger towards police, it might be different.
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