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    Are Rabbits Pets or Meat?

    I like rabbits, they're delicious.


    Among the 873 acres of gently sloping hills and fields of Devil’s Gulch Ranch in Marin County, California, owners Mark Pasternak and Myriam Kaplan-Pasternak grow a lot of grapes and raise a lot of rabbits. But not just any rabbits: Devil’s Gulch is one of the largest rabbit-meat producers in the state and sells to high-end restaurants like Chez Panisse, The French Laundry, and over a hundred others. At the height of their operation, the husband-and-wife pair had 12,000 rabbits, but these days, they keep about 2,000 and process 100 to 300 a week. They average, Mark estimates, about 10,000 a year. They are known for their high-quality meat, and given that Myriam specializes in rabbit veterinary care and nutrition, it’s safe to say they know how to raise bunnies.

    The Pasternaks have their hands full with restaurant orders, so they won’t be supplying to Whole Foods—those rabbits come from two large, USDA-certified plants: De Bruin Brothers in Iowa, and another undisclosed processor in Missouri—but they applaud the company’s decision to start selling it.
    Whole Foods’s decision was a response to demand, she says, but they're only going to end up creating more of it by putting it in their stores.

    “I don’t think it would be a bad thing if it did normalize or get the American public to eat it more,” Mark says. Rabbit may not be very popular in this country, but if you’re going to eat meat, he points out, it’s one of the better options out there, nutritionally and environmentally speaking.

    Rabbits are easy to raise and butcher in your backyard, they’re light on the environment—producing six pounds of rabbit meat requires the same amount of food and water as it takes to produce one pound of cow meat—and their meat is lean and low in cholesterol. The biggest drawback of rabbit meat has traditionally been the struggle to find it in stores, a point Modern Farmer writer Karin Pinchin makes in an article that ponders whether rabbit is the new "super meat." With Whole Foods taking on the role of supplier, this might not be a problem anymore.

    But Margo DeMello, a professor of cultural anthropology at Canisius College, is convinced grocery stores shouldn't sell rabbit meat. DeMello, who is the president of the House Rabbit Society and a co-author of the book Stories Rabbits Tell, says it's a problem that stores carry the meat of “an animal that has been embraced as a pet in millions of American households.” Sure, Whole Foods’s decision was a response to demand, she says, but they're only going to end up creating more of it by putting it in their stores.

    “Right now, it’s five regions, but eventually, if this pilot program is successful, it’s going to be all the regions,” she says. “And if that is successful, then the other stores are going to say, ‘Hey, we want to get in on the action!’” Whole Foods is a self-proclaimed industry leader in rabbit meat, and DeMello and her allies fear it won’t be long before factory-farmed rabbits start popping up everywhere.

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    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...r-meat/378757/



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    I had a reason to ask the same exact question recently and the answer is both, some rabbits are pets and some are meat.

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    They're food in my house.

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    Are Rabbits Pets or Meat?

    Yes.
    They are versatile like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    I had a reason to ask the same exact question recently and the answer is both, some rabbits are pets and some are meat.
    When I was little my Dad built a pen and started raising rabbits, I loved them and thought they were the cutest things ever but my Dad had other ideas about them and he and my brothers killed them and tanned their hides. My brother gave me the hide of my favorite bunny like that was suppose to make me feel better. I ate them but I never played with them again.

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    Eat 'em they're meat, name 'em they're pets.



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    I have a hard time killing animals especially if I have raised them. I haven't ever killed an animal in my life but I have dressed many of them. But I guess it would depend on how hungry I am or how many people are dependent on me for food. If my grand children were starving and I did not have any food to give them I would do what ever is necessary to find them something to eat.

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    sometimes they are just vermin
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    For me, pets. I would pass on eating a rabbit. Just as I wouldn't eat a dog, cat or horse. (I'm not saying they're as intelligent as those other animals, I'm just saying that I think of them as pets.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I like rabbits, they're delicious.
    All pets are meat. Done right all of them are delicious.

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    I have eaten wild rabbits but I'd kill to protect the ones I keep as pets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    I have eaten wild rabbits but I'd kill to protect the ones I keep as pets.
    My cats do that on occasion.. I had pretty well broken the dogs from chasing them.



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    We had both at one time. I told my girls the rabbits were for food. The bunnies were pets.

    They didn't like it when I tried to name one of their pets hasenpfeffer.

    All pets are potential ways of food storage for SHTF.

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    For me, food. Delicious food.



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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    My cats do that on occasion.. I had pretty well broken the dogs from chasing them.



    They are everywhere,
    We used to have a HUGE flop-ear pet, I called her Bunzilla. She used to chase the dogs.

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    Wow, sounds like it is time to make a trip to Whole Foods. I hope the bunny industry doesn't go too far in the way of factory farming, I want my bunnies free range.
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    They're cat food around here.... spread $10 50# bag of corn 3X a year. Cat eats for free

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Wow, sounds like it is time to make a trip to Whole Foods. I hope the bunny industry doesn't go too far in the way of factory farming, I want my bunnies free range.
    Me too

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    Quote Originally Posted by agitator View Post
    Pets!

    That's Penthouse. Them are bunnies! WOCKA, WOCKA!
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    But Margo DeMello, a professor of cultural anthropology at Canisius College, is convinced grocery stores shouldn't sell rabbit meat. DeMello, who is the president of the House Rabbit Society and a co-author of the book Stories Rabbits Tell, says it's a problem that stores carry the meat of “an animal that has been embraced as a pet in millions of American households.” Sure, Whole Foods’s decision was a response to demand, she says, but they're only going to end up creating more of it by putting it in their stores.

    “Right now, it’s five regions, but eventually, if this pilot program is successful, it’s going to be all the regions,” she says. “And if that is successful, then the other stores are going to say, ‘Hey, we want to get in on the action!’” Whole Foods is a self-proclaimed industry leader in rabbit meat, and DeMello and her allies fear it won’t be long before factory-farmed rabbits start popping up everywhere.
    1) How does a cultural anthropologist go about speculating about economics?

    2) Why is it a "problem"?

    3) People who want rabbit meat are probably also conscious of the problems of factory farming. I doubt that there is any demand for factory farmed rabbit.

    4) Chickens and pigs can be "pets," too. That doesn't mean they are any less tasty.
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    5) All other things being equal.



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    But Margo DeMello, a professor of cultural anthropology at Canisius College, is convinced grocery stores shouldn't sell rabbit meat. DeMello, who is the president of the House Rabbit Society and a co-author of the book Stories Rabbits Tell, says it's a problem that stores carry the meat of “an animal that has been embraced as a pet in millions of American households.”
    If the standard is offending someone who calls your dinner their pet, then these same people should also be asking to remove beef and pork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    That's Penthouse. Them are bunnies! WOCKA, WOCKA!
    Penthouse adopted Playboy's bunny theme? Huh. I did not know. They both became very boring in the 90s, IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    That's Penthouse. Them are bunnies! WOCKA, WOCKA!
    Playboy Bunnies.

    I'd say both. You can also eat Bunnies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agitator View Post
    Pets!

    Definitely MEAT. Yummy.
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    Well. I don't know. Maybe just pet the lil feller for a while before you eat him up.

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    My mom used to get rabbits being offered in the papers that were "free to a good home"... Even the old ones cooked right were tasty

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