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    "Study shows an unexpected link between solar activity and climate change"

    How unexpected!

    Sun's Activity Influences Natural Climate Change

    Sun's activity influences natural climate change

    For the first time, a research team has been able to reconstruct the solar activity at the end of the last ice age, around 20,000-10,000 years ago, by analysing trace elements in ice cores in Greenland and cave formations from China. During the last glacial maximum, Sweden was covered in a thick ice sheet that stretched all the way down to northern Germany and sea levels were more than 100 metres lower than they are today, because the water was frozen in the extensive ice caps. The new study shows that the sun's variation influences the climate in a similar way regardless of whether the climate is extreme, as during the Ice Age, or as it is today.

    "The study shows an unexpected link between solar activity and climate change. It shows both that changes in solar activity are nothing new and that solar activity influences the climate, especially on a regional level. Understanding these processes helps us to better forecast the climate in certain regions", said Raimund Muscheler, Lecturer in Quaternary Geology at Lund University and co-author of the study.

    The sun's impact on the climate is a matter of current debate, especially as regards the less-than-expected global warming of the past 15 years. There is still a lot of uncertainty as to how the sun affects the climate, but the study suggests that direct solar energy is not the most important factor, but rather indirect effects on atmospheric circulation.

    "Reduced solar activity could lead to colder winters in Northern Europe. This is because the sun's UV radiation affects the atmospheric circulation. Interestingly, the same processes lead to warmer winters in Greenland, with greater snowfall and more storms. The study also shows that the various solar processes need to be included in climate models in order to better predict future global and regional climate change", said Dr Muscheler.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
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    Hundred-Year Period Of Increased Solar Activity Coming To An End

    Long-Term natural cycles linked to the sun could explain the pause in global average surface temperatures and offer a better guide for coastal planners to predict sea level rises, storm surges and natural disasters. Publication of the findings in Ocean and Coastal Management follows a decade-long struggle for the lead author, Australian scientist Robert Baker from the University of New England, whose work has challenged the orthodox *climate science view that carbon dioxide is the dominant factor in climate change. His latest paper with his PhD student faced a *series of objections from scientists close to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change but was published after an 11-member peer review panel voted 8-3 to publish.—Graham Lloyd, The Australian[Subscription Required], 16 August 2014
    Further evidence suggesting that the sun may be implicated in global warming has emerged in a paper published in the journal Astronomy & Astrophysics. The astronomical finding based on a careful analysis of sunspot activity has clear implications for climate science as the so called “grand maximum” in solar output identified by the researchers and observed between 1950 and 2009 co-incided with the rapid warming of global surface temperatures seen during the second half of the 20th century. This finding that the period of most intense global warming has coincided with an unprecedented peak in recorded solar output will add pressure onto the IPCC to look again at the interconnection between the sun and the climate.—Reporting Climate Science, 7 August 2014


    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/65400
    Last edited by phill4paul; 08-19-2014 at 03:14 PM.

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    I don't understand how this is unexpected. It's common sense.

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    Now there's a leap. LOL! Must be a government funded study.

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    In other shocking news, it has been determined that the sun is not actually a chariot of fire flying over the earth...
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    Yeah, Phill, the global cooling cycle is really going to suck!

    It's not even "for the first time.":

    I have reviewed the cyclical discoveries of Sallie Baliunas. Ice core samples were taken going back thousands of years and what was discovered is that the sun is indeed a thermal dynamic system that beats like your heart and there is a 300 year cycle between maximum and minimum.
    Weather has fluctuated according to a 300-year cycle in the energy output of the sun as demonstrated by Sallie Baliunas. The Global Warming crowd refuse to address the natural cycles of weather before 1920.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    RACIST!

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    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    Yeah, Phill, the global cooling cycle is really going to suck!

    It's not even "for the first time.":
    Unless it burns out tomorrow it's not something I'm gonna prep for.

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    Was this originally written for "The Onion"?
    "Sorry, fellows, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."

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    Outlaw solar activity!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Outlaw solar activity!
    No, tax it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    No, tax it!
    Both!



    Praise state.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Both!



    Praise state.......
    Did somebody say Compromise?

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    NO

    DOI
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    psshhh.... old news...

    research projects
    http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/...ic%20Processes

    abstract from http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/4/045001

    Environmental Research Letters Volume 8 Number 4M M Lam et al 2013 Environ. Res. Lett. 8 045001 doi:10.1088/1748-9326/8/4/045001

    The interplanetary magnetic field influences mid-latitude surface atmospheric pressure


    The existence of a meteorological response in the polar regions to fluctuations in the interplanetary magnetic field (IMF) component By is well established. More controversially, there is evidence to suggest that this Sun–weather coupling occurs via the global atmospheric electric circuit. Consequently, it has been assumed that the effect is maximized at high latitudes and is negligible at low and mid-latitudes, because the perturbation by the IMF is concentrated in the polar regions. We demonstrate a previously unrecognized influence of the IMF By on mid-latitude surface pressure. The difference between the mean surface pressures during times of high positive and high negative IMF By possesses a statistically significant mid-latitude wave structure similar to atmospheric Rossby waves. Our results show that a mechanism that is known to produce atmospheric responses to the IMF in the polar regions is also able to modulate pre-existing weather patterns at mid-latitudes. We suggest the mechanism for this from conventional meteorology. The amplitude of the effect is comparable to typical initial analysis uncertainties in ensemble numerical weather prediction. Thus, a relatively localized small-amplitude solar influence on the upper atmosphere could have an important effect, via the nonlinear evolution of atmospheric dynamics, on critical atmospheric processes.

    reference works
    http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/4/045001/refs



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    Last edited by newbitech; 08-19-2014 at 05:02 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Outlaw solar activity!
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    No, tax it!
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Both!



    Praise state.......
    You beat me to it, but no one had mentioned regulating it.

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    psst kid, could I interest you in some solar tax credits...

    -t

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