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    Shocker! New Study; You Have Near Zero Impact on U S Policy



    A startling new political science study concludes that corporate interests and mega wealthy individuals control U.S. policy to such a degree that "the preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy."

    The startling study, titled "Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens," is slated to appear in an upcoming issue of Perspectives on Politics and was authored by Princeton University Professor Martin Gilens and Northwestern University Professor Benjamin Page. An early draft can be found here.

    Noted American University Historian Allan J. Lichtman, who highlighted the piece in a Tuesday article published in The Hill, calls Gilens and Page's research "shattering" and says their scholarship "should be a loud wake-up call to the vast majority of Americans who are bypassed by their government."

    The statistical research looked at public attitudes on nearly 1,800 policy issues and determined that government almost always ignores the opinions of average citizens and adopts the policy preferences of monied business interests when shaping the contours of U.S. laws.

    the shocking revelations continue at...http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-on-U-S-Policy
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    So you're telling me that Puffy wasn't exactly being truthful?


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    I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.

    Or not.

    Anyone with two functioning brain cells ought to be able to look at the world around them and easily come to exactly this conclusion without any formal study. But hey, another round of voting and a few strongly worded letters will fix everything right up.
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.

    Or not.

    Anyone with two functioning brain cells ought to be able to look at the world around them and easily come to exactly this conclusion without any formal study. But hey, another round of voting and a few strongly worded letters will fix everything right up.
    Consent of the governed is a mere formality. Behind the scenes is where the real policies are hammered out.

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    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

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    For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
    ..

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    God damn it, I'm writing a SWLOD right now.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    God damn it, I'm writing a SWLOD right now.

    Me too. And registering to vote in the morning. By god, we'll fix this situation right up in no time flat!
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    And we wonder why people riot when cops shoot unarmed innocent people in the back 10 times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    God damn it, I'm writing a SWLOD right now.
    I'm so mad that I may write 2 SWLOD.
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    I'm so mad that I may write 2 SWLOD.

    Bet you can't write just one!
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    I'm so mad that I may write 2 SWLOD.
    That'll really get their attention. I know! Let's start a petition!
    "The Patriarch"

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    maybe Obama figured out that he too has near-zero impact on policy, which is why he's vacationing and golfing instead...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Bet you can't write just one!

    I blame public schools.
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho



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    Had someone tell me at work that..... "Well it is still only NEAR zero, and isn't Zero".
    The wisdom of Swordy:

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    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever..... just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Had someone tell me at work that..... "Well it is still only NEAR zero, and isn't Zero".
    Zero would be really bad.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Gotta keep trying to export democracy at gunpoint--it's bound to work somewhere!

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    If voting mattered, it would be illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And we wonder why people riot when cops shoot unarmed innocent people in the back 10 times...
    When are people going to really riot? For $#@!'s sake, the Ferguson folks should have gathered every able-bodied young man and stormed the police station, showing the filthy pigs inside no quarter. That would have been a sight to see.
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    I am not even a cat person guys I promise.


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    Duh.. Yeaw near zero equals 1/360,000,000th of a effect on US policy. Funny how people think that their vote should be the same as an emperor of the world.
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.

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    lol but that wont stop people from voting and demanding a slightly nicer master to enforce their ways unto others they disagree with.
    "One thing my years in Washington taught me is that most politicians are followers, not leaders. Therefore we should not waste time and resources trying to educate politicians. Politicians will not support individual liberty and limited government unless and until they are forced to do so by the people," says Ron Paul."



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    bump.
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever..... just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

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    Not true.

    Cryptocurrency will end the petrodollar.

    Join the revolution. Support the end of gov't currency controls across the globe and transacting how you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    maybe Obama figured out that he too has near-zero impact on policy, which is why he's vacationing and golfing instead...
    I'm sure he, like others, has basically been told: "We have a loaded gun in this hand, and a pampered, protected lifestyle for the rest of your days in this one. Choose."
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    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
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    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
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    Give me messy freedom every time!



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