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    Federal Judge Drops Boom on AR-15s

    Unusual? A magazine is a bloody spring and a plastic casing!!! It's a very simple system.

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    Upon review of all the parties’ evidence, the court seriously doubts that the banned assault long guns are commonly possessed for lawful purposes, particularly self-defense in the home, which is at the core of the Second Amendment right
    This is absolutely right. The 2nd amendment was added so that people could be armed against burglars. Also, hunting. The founders probably also added the 2nd amendment for shooting clay pigeons. Perhaps, and this is kind of a stretch, also Olympic target shooting.

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    Judge Catherine C. Blake.
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    The esteemed judge said;

    Upon review of all the parties’ evidence, the court seriously doubts that the banned assault long guns are commonly possessed for lawful purposes, particularly self-defense in the home, which is at the core of the Second Amendment right, and is inclined to find the weapons fall outside Second Amendment protection as dangerous and unusual.
    First, the court is not persuaded that assault weapons are commonly possessed based on the absolute number of those weapons owned by the public. Even accepting that there are 8.2 million assault weapons in the civilian gun stock, as the plaintiffs claim, assault weapons represent no more than 3% of the current civilian gun stock, and ownership of those weapons is highly concentrated in less than 1% of the U.S. population.
    The court is also not persuaded by the plaintiffs’ claims that assault weapons are used infrequently in mass shootings and murders of law enforcement officers. The available statistics indicate that assault weapons are used disproportionately to their ownership in the general public and, furthermore, cause more injuries and more fatalities when they are used.
    As for their claims that assault weapons are well-suited for self-defense, the plaintiffs proffer no evidence beyond their desire to possess assault weapons for self-defense in the home that they are in fact commonly used, or possessed, for that purpose.
    Finally, despite the plaintiffs’ claims that they would like to use assault weapons for defensive purposes, assault weapons are military-style weapons designed for offensive use, and are equally, or possibly even more effective, in functioning and killing capacity as their fully automatic versions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    This is absolutely right. The 2nd amendment was added so that people could be armed against burglars. Also, hunting. The founders probably also added the 2nd amendment for shooting clay pigeons. Perhaps, and this is kind of a stretch, also Olympic target shooting.

    If you need a bigger gun than for anything other than those, just call the police. They'll help you
    sub bxm awful cynical this past week, you ok homie?

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    Well, if it was a female I'd have a pretty good idea...oh, wait.

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
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    Finally, despite the plaintiffs’ claims that they would like to use assault weapons for defensive purposes, assault weapons are military-style weapons designed for offensive use, and are equally, or possibly even more effective, in functioning and killing capacity as their fully automatic versions.
    So, the cops will be sending back to the Pentagon, all their 1033 acquired FULL AUTO rifles then?

    Oh...



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    Even accepting that there are 8.2 million assault weapons
    Pretty amazing considering there are less than half a million gun crimes per year. How could there be that many assault weapons when there aren't that many assaults?

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Unusual? A magazine is a bloody spring and a plastic casing!!! It's a very simple system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So, the cops will be sending back to the Pentagon, all their 1033 acquired FULL AUTO rifles then?

    Oh...
    They really are making this stuff up while they are going along.



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    "Finally, despite the plaintiffs’ claims that they would like to use assault weapons for defensive purposes, assault weapons are military-style weapons designed for offensive use, and are equally, or possibly even more effective, in functioning and killing capacity as their fully automatic versions."

    Good. The better the weapon is at killing, the less chance anyone but your target is going to get hurt.

    Honestly just a terrible ruling that falls outside of the spirit of the natural right to bear arms. Sickening misunderstanding of what arms are meant for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
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    Got her amendments mixed up, "Cruel and Unusual" isn't part of the 2nd....I know, I know the neoc's got it mixed up with something else...too....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
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    More specifically it is Dermot Morgan (RIP), or a cousin

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    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- TJ

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    Thumbs down

    What is she denying FBI statistics?


    Weapons 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011
    Total Homicides by Firearms: 10,129 9,528 9,199 8,874 8,583
    Handguns 7,398 6,800 6,501 6,115 6,220
    Rifles 453 380 351 367 323
    Shotguns 457 442 423 366 356
    Other guns 116 81 96 93 97
    Firearms, type not stated 1,705 1,825 1,828 1,933 1,587

    Knives are more dangerous:

    Total Homicides by Knives or Cutting Instruments 1,817 1,888 1,836 1,732 1,694

    Source: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...e-data-table-8


    Fact: Most homicides in America are the result of pathetic street thugs armed with cheap handguns or knives. Only in the movies can the average street thug afford to purchase a $2,000 “assault rifle”.

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    She should seriously consider recusing herself from all forms of public service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston White View Post
    She should seriously consider recusing herself from all forms of public service.
    Prostitutes perform a public service.....

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    Might just find out how common ARs are - the painful way.
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    Connecticut response to gun law challenge reveals plan to gut Second Amendment

    Governor Dannel P. Malloy and co-defendants/appellees in the Shew v Malloy challenge to recently-enacted Connecticut gun laws filed their brief Thursday in the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.

    “At 178 pages long, it’s anything but brief,” Chris Lemos of the Connecticut Citizens Defense League, a lead plaintiff in the case, observed. “[W]hat I’ve read so far would be laughable if it didn’t involve the infringement of our Constitutional rights.”

    That assertion is what the defense attempts to refute, following a very similar strategy to one upheld on Tuesday in Kolbe v O’Malley, a challenge to Maryland’s Firearm Safety Act. In that case, U.S. District Judge Catherine C. Blake ruled “assault weapons” and their standard capacity magazines “fall outside Second Amendment protection as dangerous and unusual.”

    The contentions presented by Malloy’s defense are based on essentially the same arguments, and those can be looked to as bellwethers for what to expect, anticipate, prepare for and refute.

    That “assault weapons” are dangerous, that they’re not in common use, and that they’re deemed battlefield weapons are all ploys designed to sway those who know no better by those who do. There are definite functional and tactical use differences between semi-autos and what the military deploys with, but now that Violence Policy Center-inspired “confusion” tactics can be elevated to settled law by the courts, the same confusion can be extended to nullify why the right to keep and bear arms was codified in the first place.

    The key point being ducked is that the phrase “in common use at the time” was in reference to the militia component of the Second Amendment, and referred to the expectation that citizen soldiers would muster bearing arms suitable to confront and prevail against professional military forces. Nothing with the passage of time has changed that, except through the deliberate indifference of the government in discharging its duties ensuring that which was once commonly understood as “being necessary to the security of a free State.”

    The point was further confirmed in the opinion rendered in the 1939 Miller case, in which it was found a short-barrel shotgun could not be determined protected under the Second Amendment because the court had no evidence its possession had “some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia [or] that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment, or that its use could contribute to the common defense.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    That's a man.
    I have no idea, looks like a typical , liberal , female over 50.

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    If this is for real it needs more coverage. That judge just packaged every wrong stat into one opinion and declared that guns aren't for what the 2nd was clearly written for and that the proles can not have weapons even resembling what police can have.
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