6 dead in Houston, cop chase

[tod evans]

6 killed in Houston-area police chase

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/11...cmp=latestnews

LEAGUE CITY, Texas – Authorities say six people have been killed, including a family of four, when an SUV speeding from police struck another vehicle southeast of Houston.

Dickinson police Capt. Jay Jaekel says 23-year-old Juan Garcia Ahuezoteco fled police Sunday night in a Dodge Durango. The Durango traveled into nearby League City where it ran a stop sign and struck a Honda Accord. Killed in the Honda were a married couple, 41-year-old Rafael Guererro and 38-year-old Alejandra Guererro, their unidentified 15-year-old son and the woman's 25-year-old brother, Gilberto Ortega Jr.

Ahuezoteco and his passenger, Alejandro Molina, also were killed.

The pursuit began when an officer in Dickinson attempted to pull over the Durango because it was operating erratically. Jaekel says Ahuezoteco was wanted on a felony count of driving while intoxicated.

[Anti Federalist]

Thank State the brave officers are all OK.

[aGameOfThrones]

served and protected

[Legend1104]

uhmm. I am usually on board with holding police accountable in these crazy cases where they do really bad illegal stuff, but just based on the info. provided this was not the polices fault. If the car was swerving due to drunk driving and they ran from the cops and killed people while intoxicated, how is that the polices fault?

[CPUd]

uhmm. I am usually on board with holding police accountable in these crazy cases where they do really bad illegal stuff, but just based on the info. provided this was not the polices fault. If the car was swerving due to drunk driving and they ran from the cops and killed people while intoxicated, how is that the polices fault?

because police.

[TheTexan]

this was not the polices fault

Agreed 100%. Well said.

[pcosmar]

Just wait till they get Hellcats.

[SeanTX]

If we were to call off dangerous chases and let people escape the police then everyone would do it, and then we would have anarchy. You gotta crack some eggs to make an omelet. That guy who was running did it to that family.

[TheTexan]

If we were to call off dangerous chases and let people escape the police then everyone would do it, and then we would have anarchy. You gotta crack some eggs to make an omelet. That guy who was running did it to that family.

Well said. Couldn't agree more. +rep

[TheTexan]

Jaekel says Ahuezoteco was wanted on a felony count of driving while intoxicated. ... The pursuit began when an officer in Dickinson attempted to pull over the Durango because it was operating erratically.

Drinking and driving is very dangerous and doing it could hurt innocent people, which is why it's illegal and has such extremely harsh penalties. It's a shame that he was so frightened of these penalties that he panicked and accidentally killed some innocent people as he tried to escape, but I also think that should serve as an indication of how effective these laws are. Criminals like this are supposed to be scared of the punishment for their crimes.

Fortunately this criminal will never again hurt anyone with his drinking and driving.

[green73]

If we were to call off dangerous chases and let people escape the police then everyone would do it, and then we would have anarchy.

I fail to see how this would lead to the best way to let society organize. Care to expand?

You gotta crack some eggs to make an omelet. That guy who was running did it to that family.

You're a hell of a thinker.

[DamianTV]

uhmm. I am usually on board with holding police accountable in these crazy cases where they do really bad illegal stuff, but just based on the info. provided this was not the polices fault. If the car was swerving due to drunk driving and they ran from the cops and killed people while intoxicated, how is that the polices fault?

Knowing when not to hold Cops accountable for everything is part of the responsibility that comes with the power of being able to hold Cops responsible. Innocent until proven Guilty must apply to Cops as equally as it does the people. Although we are far to often not able to hold Cops accountable, we must lead by example and allow the truly innocent ones to go free. Being a Cop is not in and of itself a Crime. The actions that ANY person performs, whether charged with a responsibility or not is what must be considered to convict the truly Guilty.

Im not trying to apologize for the actions of the Cops that have ended the lives of so many. I will always defend those who are truly innocent, which must include some Cops and other groups that are far too often convicted by media instead of a Jury of their peers. If we were to apply the same idea of "Cop = Criminal" to all Politicans, then we would have hung Ron Paul for the accused Crime of being a Politician.

The protection of Innocense is one of the key foundations of any Free Society.

[TheTexan]

Being a Cop is not in and of itself a Crime.

Agreed 100%. The profession is founded on the principles of serving and protecting; there's nothing wrong with that.

This cop was simply pulling over someone for drunk driving (a crime against the state). He didn't do anything wrong, he was just doing his job. The deaths of those people are certainly not on his hands.

[phill4paul]

So glad the actions of police officers kept the public safe. How many more could have died had they not pursued?

[squarepusher]

I think cars should have 'deactivation' switch that police can use to stop these chases cold in their tracks.

[TheTexan]

So glad the actions of police officers kept the public safe. How many more could have died had they not pursued?

No kidding. Or a cop could have died during the car chase. This could have turned out a lot worse.

[SeanTX]

A Texas DPS chase took out six innocents a year ago : http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ight=texas+dps

[TheTexan]

I think cars should have 'deactivation' switch that police can use to stop these chases cold in their tracks.

Agreed. We should also install breathalyzers in every car that need to be blown into to start the car. Theres a lot of things we can and should be doing to save lives

[SeanTX]

I think cars should have 'deactivation' switch that police can use to stop these chases cold in their tracks.

yes, and maybe some sort of in-car taser device to incapacitate the driver and/or passengers .

[phill4paul]

No kidding. Or a cop could have died during the car chase. This could have turned out a lot worse.

I don't know how the outcome could have been any better. We, as citizens, should expect a certain amount of collateral damage. There is a war on. As long as no warrior/hero was damaged then...well..that's all that matters.

[phill4paul]

I think cars should have 'deactivation' switch that police can use to stop these chases cold in their tracks.

Every gun should have one of those to.

[Henry Rogue]

Thank State the brave officers are all OK.

The next time someone sneezes, I'm going to say "State bless you."

[Root]

If we were to call off dangerous chases and let people escape the police then everyone would do it, and then we would have anarchy. You gotta crack some eggs to make an omelet. That guy who was running did it to that family.

Agreed. We should also install breathalyzers in every car that need to be blown into to start the car. Theres a lot of things we can and should be doing to save lives

Who is this 'we' you are both referring to?

I think cars should have 'deactivation' switch that police can use to stop these chases cold in their tracks.

yes, and maybe some sort of in-car taser device to incapacitate the driver and/or passengers .

Get a warrant. I'm sure the government won't abuse this at all.

[phill4paul]

A Texas DPS chase took out six innocents a year ago : http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ight=texas+dps

Sadly it is nothing new.

[green73]

yes, and maybe some sort of in-car taser device to incapacitate the driver and/or passengers .

LOL. Please forgive me for my last comment.

[Anti Federalist]

I think cars should have 'deactivation' switch that police can use to stop these chases cold in their tracks.

If you own a GM vehicle, it already does.

It's called OnStar.

This is great idea, nothing I want more than the government being able to wirelessly shut down my car.

[thoughtomator]

Agreed. We should also install breathalyzers in every car that need to be blown into to start the car. Theres a lot of things we can and should be doing to save lives

and when you need to get from point A to point B, you have your trusty, mandatory Obamacar navigator to show you the wrong way

[mczerone]

Poe's law is too overwhelming in this thread.

[phill4paul]

If you own a GM vehicle, it already does.

It's called OnStar.

This is great idea, nothing I want more than the government being able to wirelessly shut down my car.

Guess that would depend on what neighborhood and how may innocents get caught up n the collateral fire once the engine is cut.

[tasteless]

tbh I think the drunk driver gets most of the blame here.