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    Does anyone know of any good, thorough books on the history of Israel since the creation of the modern Israeli state?
    Last edited by zMtLlC; 06-27-2007 at 12:58 AM. Reason: clarification



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    One recent book is Scars of War, Wounds of Peace, by former Israeli foreign minister, and it's a quite balanced overview (aka "anti-Semitic" as far as American Zionist lobby people are concerned, but they can attack neither the content nor the messenger in this case). It also includes the history of the creation itself, unlike what you asked.

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    "The Holocaust Industry" by Norman Finkelstein. Highly controversial. You can search google video to see lectures and debates by/with the author.

    "The Jews of Khazaria", Kevin Alan Brook (not contemporary, but rather the emerging historical evidence that many/most European Jews came from the Khazarian Empire (600AD-1100AD), which was situated, more or less, between today's Turkey and Russia.
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    There was a controversial man named Benjamin Freedman, who was a New York Jewish insider until he "defected" and began to disclose what he felt were the facts of the true history and motives of world domination by the International Zionists.

    He wrote a short book called "Facts are Facts" that can be read for free online:

    http://www.biblestudysite.com/factsarefacts.htm

    I listened to a speech last week and I'm pretty sure it's him talking and I don't know when it was given, but it sounded very rational. It is on YouTube in four parts under the title "92% of Europeans Jews, were originally Khazars".

    Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry37mKMh04U
    Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrLtoC5Eg0w
    Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxDu8d5Yeg
    Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx00Q_u8SbM

    This lecture totals 40 minutes a covers the period from WWI (1914) to and beyond the formation of Israel and the expulsion of Palestinians from the homeland. I highly recommend it.
    “The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government.” – Thomas Jefferson

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    The Controversy of Zion - by DOUGLAS REED
    online at :
    http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/Controversybook/index.htm

    from The Preface
    "The Author: In Europe during the years immediately before and after World War II the name of Douglas Reed was on everyone's lips; his books were being sold by scores of thousand, and he was known with intimate familiarity throughout the English-speaking world by a vast army of readers and admirers. Former London Times correspondent in Central Europe, he had won great fame with books like Insanity Fair, Disgrace Abounding, Lest We Regret, Somewhere South of Suez, Far and Wide and several others, each amplifying a hundredfold the scope available to him as one of the world's leading foreign correspondents.

    The disappearance into almost total oblivion of Douglas Reed and all his works was a change that could not have been wrought by time alone; indeed, the correctness of his interpretation of the unfolding history of the times found some confirmation in what happened to him when at the height of his powers.

    After 1951, with the publication of Far and Wide, in which he set the history of the United States of America into the context of all he had learned in Europe of the politics of the world, Reed found himself banished from the bookstands, all publishers' doors closed to him, and those books already published liable to be withdrawn from library shelves and "lost", never to be replaced.

    His public career as a writer now apparently at an end, Reed was at last free to undertake a great task for which all that had gone before was but a kind of preparation and education that no university could provide and which only the fortunate and gifted few could fully use - his years as a foreign correspondent, his travels in Europe and America, his conversations and contacts with the great political leaders of his day, plus his eager absorption through reading and observation of all that was best in European culture.

    Experiences which other men might have accepted as defeat, served only to focus Douglas Reed's powers on what was to be his most important undertaking - that of researching and retelling the story of the last 2000 years and more in such a way as to render intelligible much of modern history which for the masses remains in our time steeped in darkness and closely guarded by the terrors of an invisible system of censorship."

    ...more at link.

    Best Regards
    Randy

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    Israel: A Deadly Piece of Dirt - Dr. Peter Ruckman -

    http://www.kjv1611.org/2006%20Catalog/02cat-8-23.pdf (Scroll down to page 10)


    WorldNetDaily has some very good books -

    http://shop.wnd.com/store/search.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamadeh View Post
    Jimmy Carters Peace not Apartheid
    I am with you on this one......the history of the state of Israel depends as to who wrote it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joenaab View Post
    "The Holocaust Industry" by Norman Finkelstein. Highly controversial. You can search google video to see lectures and debates by/with the author.
    Also check out "Beyond Chutzpah" by Finkelstein.

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    Ive been reading "Middle East Illusions" by Noam Chomsky (Im not a big fan of his, but ill admit he knows quite a bit about the Israeli/Palestinian issue.)

    Great read, in depth discussion of Israel/Palestine/Terrorism/Foreign Policy i highly recommend it even if you dislike Chomsky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolution9 View Post
    The Controversy of Zion - by DOUGLAS REED
    online at :
    http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/Controversybook/index.htm
    Randy, I took a look in Amazon for the book "Far and Wide" by Douglas Reed, and in the description page of the book they included a quote from the book as to how Douglas Reed say future historians would describe this era we are in (and he wrote this in 1951).

    "At the mid-twentieth century the forces conspiring, to enslave all the countries of the Christian West, especially the English-speaking ones, were so greatly in control of public information that the masses knew next to nothing of what went on and what impended. Public men had come to fear these inhibitors too much to tempt their wrath, and any who did risk that ire were defamed by so powerful a machine of the spoken and written word that even the masses, after lending an eager ear of hope, then dully turned their backs on the speakers and shunned them, thinking they must be evil after all. In that way they were brought again and again to pit themselves against each other, always in the name of "freedom, " for their own mutual destruction and enslavement..."

    Could anyone have been more prophetic? I read the online book "Facts are Facts" yesterday that I posted earlier in this thread and it was an eye-opener, too.
    “The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government.” – Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by joenaab View Post
    Randy, I took a look in Amazon for the book "Far and Wide" by Douglas Reed, and in the description page of the book they included a quote from the book as to how Douglas Reed say future historians would describe this era we are in (and he wrote this in 1951).

    "At the mid-twentieth century the forces conspiring, to enslave all the countries of the Christian West, especially the English-speaking ones, were so greatly in control of public information that the masses knew next to nothing of what went on and what impended. Public men had come to fear these inhibitors too much to tempt their wrath, and any who did risk that ire were defamed by so powerful a machine of the spoken and written word that even the masses, after lending an eager ear of hope, then dully turned their backs on the speakers and shunned them, thinking they must be evil after all. In that way they were brought again and again to pit themselves against each other, always in the name of "freedom, " for their own mutual destruction and enslavement..."

    Could anyone have been more prophetic? I read the online book "Facts are Facts" yesterday that I posted earlier in this thread and it was an eye-opener, too.
    Don't forget this piece of the puzzle:

    http://www.alor.org/Library/FabianSo...istAdvance.htm

    "The Fabian Socialist Contribution to the Communist Advance

    The great Lord Acton, famous for his observation that all power tends to corrupt, also made the penetrating statement that "Few discoveries are more irritating than those which expose the pedigree of ideas".

    The purpose of this study is to trace the pedigree and the development of the ideas which have produced the Fabian Socialist movement as one of the principal contributions to the mounting forces of a world-wide revolution threatening the basic foundations of Western and Christian civilization.

    The very suggestion that the Fabian Socialist movement has played a vital role in furthering the Communist advance, still less has had any close connection with Communism, will naturally be regarded with great indignation by all those who have uncritically accepted the widespread view that the Fabians have been a "moderate" influence in politics and economics. And the very fact that the Fabians and other Socialist groups have been attacked by the Marxist-Leninists, is offered as sufficiently convincing evidence that so far from "moderate" Socialists assisting the Communist advance, they are in fact the only real barrier to Communism.

    But as one of the famous architects of the British Welfare State, Sir William Beveridge, said, his programme was one of going "half-way to Moscow". Beveridge was a leading Fabian. His description of Socialism is a realistic one; an admission that it is moving in the same direction as the Marxists, only not as fast, and, as many sincere Socialists believe, not as far."

    ...

    "The influence of one man, Harold Laski, can never be fully estimated. For example, any realistic assessment of the role of Dr. H. V. Evatt in Australian politics would need to consider his friendship with Laski.
    In the preface to his book, The King and His Dominion Governors, DR. Evatt wrote,
    "I am also under obligation to Professor Laski, of the London School of Economics,
    for much encouragement and advice."
    Laski was also a close friend of Mr. Justice Frankfurter, as was Evatt.
    Laski exerted an enormous influence in the U.S.A. In an address on March 15, 1934, Mr. Louis T. McFadden, outstanding American Congressman and banker, exposed New Deal legislation as having been assisted by the Foreign Policy Association of the U.S.A. , which "is directly connected with the Fabian Society".
    The Foreign Policy Association was sponsored by Paul M. Warburg of Kuhn, Loeb and Co., and by the famous financier Bernard Baruch. Mr. Justice Felix Frankfurter was also a supporter of the Foreign Policy Association.

    President Roosevelt's considerable wealth did not prevent him from enthusiastically accepting the advice and support of the Fabian Socialists. In an address in the U.S.A. House of Representatives on June 30, 1939, the Hon. John C. Schafer dealt with Roosevelt's background, revealing him as a wealthy man who had been "an ex-international banker of wide experience and former attorney for international bankers".

    President John Kennedy, Roosevelt's spiritual successor, did not find his wealth a barrier to the acceptance of the advice he received from Fabian Socialist advisers. But Kennedy was not only a product of Harvard University, a hot-bed of Fabian Socialism, but actually studied for a period under Harold Laski at the London School of Economics.

    Fabian Socialist J. M. Keynes always enjoyed the friendliest of relations with international bankers. Sir Roy Harrod reveals in his biography how when he visited the U.S.A., "His old friend, Mr. Russell Leffingwell, provided him with a room to himself in the offices of J. P. Morgan."

    Several of the American Foundations have become little more than "fronts" for Socialist and, in some cases, Communist activities, providing further confirmation of the nexus between Big Finance and Socialism.

    Alger Hiss, the American State Department official who was later exposed as a top Soviet agent, was at one time after the war President of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. When Alger Hiss was exposed as a Soviet agent, he was befriended by Mrs. Helen Lehman Buttenweiser. The same woman later supplied most of the bail for Dr. Robert Soblen, brother of Morton Soblen, one of the most important Soviet spies ever captured in the U.S.A.

    Dr. Soblen was also charged with espionage activities, but he jumped his bail.
    Mrs. Buttenweiser is the wife of Benjamin Buttenweiser, another member of Kuhn, Loeb and Co. She is also the niece of the banker Herbert Lehman, a former Senator and Governor notorious for his support of revolutionary movements."

    whole book at link
    "Masterful and arrogant wealth, created largely by Government protection of its profits, not content with its domination and influence within a single party, had sought to corrupt them both, and to that end had insinuated itself into the primaries, in order that no candidates might be nominated whose views were not in accord with theirs." (‘Colonel’ Edward Mandell House in 'Philip Dru: Administrator', circa 1912)

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    About Jews (Zionists) and Communists.......... I can say it all by using a few words.

    "Of the seven initial Poliburo members at the foundation of the Communist Party five were Jew (Zionists).

    You Zionists reading this can jump around all that you want and say "but, but but" ........ no but's in the world will change history or the truth.
    "A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for America"... Ponce

    "When the truth comes into the light, the lies will hide in the dark"... Ponce

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    For some reason I have been unable to find my originals articles about the five Jews (Zionists) in the Communist Poliburo...... what I have posted below will have to do till I do some more search......thanks.

    During the Revolution Jews played a prominent part in the party organs. The politburo elected on Oct. 23, 1917 had four Jews among its seven members. The Military Revolutionary Committee, appointed to prepare the coup, was headed by Trotsky and had two Jews among its five members. In the early years of the Soviet regime, Jews were in many leading positions in the government and party machinery (page 797, 98)

    Thus, 57 percent of the Politburo at the height of the Revolution was Jewish, as well as 40 percent of the Military Revolutionary Committee. In my video The Other Israel I show a photo of the First Peoples' Commissariat. Its five members are all Jewish. (See, <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6657600254881054584>The Other Israel video on Google)
    "A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for America"... Ponce

    "When the truth comes into the light, the lies will hide in the dark"... Ponce

    "If you don't hold it, you don't own it"... Ponce

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    Zionists must have hated the invention of the internet. It's beginning to obliterate their MSM propaganda. Of course they will be trying to buy it up so they can censor the main sites. Got a feeling that's coming to youtube soon.



    Quote Originally Posted by joenaab View Post
    Randy, I took a look in Amazon for the book "Far and Wide" by Douglas Reed, and in the description page of the book they included a quote from the book as to how Douglas Reed say future historians would describe this era we are in (and he wrote this in 1951).

    "At the mid-twentieth century the forces conspiring, to enslave all the countries of the Christian West, especially the English-speaking ones, were so greatly in control of public information that the masses knew next to nothing of what went on and what impended. Public men had come to fear these inhibitors too much to tempt their wrath, and any who did risk that ire were defamed by so powerful a machine of the spoken and written word that even the masses, after lending an eager ear of hope, then dully turned their backs on the speakers and shunned them, thinking they must be evil after all. In that way they were brought again and again to pit themselves against each other, always in the name of "freedom, " for their own mutual destruction and enslavement..."

    Could anyone have been more prophetic? I read the online book "Facts are Facts" yesterday that I posted earlier in this thread and it was an eye-opener, too.


    "Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion."
    - Thomas Jefferson

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    More about the Jews as founders of the Communist party.......I find it interesting that for over fifty years we were fighting the "Communists" and yet now they are taking over the US government............. Ponce

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    Two weeks prior to the Bolshevik "October Revolution" of 1917, Lenin convened a top secret meeting in St. Petersburg (Petrograd) at which the key leaders of the Bolshevik party's Central Committee made the fateful decision to seize power in a violent takeover. Of the twelve persons who took part in this decisive gathering, there were four Russians (including Lenin), one Georgian (Stalin), one Pole (Dzerzhinsky), and six Jews.

    To direct the takeover, a seven-man "Political Bureau" was chosen. It consisted of two Russians (Lenin and Bubnov), one Georgian (Stalin), and four Jews (Trotsky, Sokolnikov, Zinoviev, and Kamenev). Meanwhile, the Petersburg (Petrograd) Soviet -- whose chairman was Trotsky -- established an 18-member "Military Revolutionary Committee" to actually carry out the seizure of power. It included eight (or nine) Russians, one Ukrainian, one Pole, one Caucasian, and six Jews. Finally, to supervise the organization of the uprising, the Bolshevik Central Committee established a five-man "Revolutionary Military Center" as the Party's operations command. It consisted of one Russian (Bubnov), one Georgian (Stalin), one Pole (Dzerzhinsky), and two Jews (Sverdlov and Uritsky).

    ===========================more to follow===============
    "A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for America"... Ponce

    "When the truth comes into the light, the lies will hide in the dark"... Ponce

    "If you don't hold it, you don't own it"... Ponce






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