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    Exclamation NYC-The plot thickens: Man who recorded cops that killed Eric Garner, arrested.

    I'll take "Throw Down Piece", for $1000, Alex.


    Cop who put Eric Garner into a chokehold is 'distraught': police union president

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1890415

    The cop who killed Eric Garner is "distraught" over the death, police union president Pat Lynch said Sunday.

    "I had the opportunity to speak with [police officer Daniel Pantaleo], he's distraught over it,"said Lynch, president of the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, on a Sunday morning radio show hosted by correction union president Norman Seabrook.

    "No one wants to have to deal with the fact that someone died because of something they had to do. It's a terrible loss," Lynch added.

    <snip>

    "Things like this happen, unfortunately," said Lynch, noting the office never intended to kill Garner. "And that doesn't mean to lessen it---it means it's the reality. In communities, we have to deal with the reality of the job we have to do."

    After the takedown, Garner looked lifeless on the sidewalk as cops stood around without trying to revive him. The autopsy said "prone positioning during physical restraint by the police" and Garner's weight, high blood pressure and asthma were also contributing factors. He weighed about 350 pounds.

    Lynch said the cops moved Garner on his side as he lay motionless on the sidewalk.

    "That's what they are trained to do. [THEY] aren't trained for CPR," Lynch said.

    (But will be sure to keep people who ARE, away from the scene. - AF)

    <snip>

    Meanwhile, the bystander who videotaped the incident, Ramsey Orta, 22, was busted carrying a loaded firearm late Saturday night, authorities said.

    The gun was reported stolen in 2007, prosecutors said.

    Orta was taken Richmond University Medical Center after a panic attack.

    "He didn't have a gun in the house," Orta's mother, Emily Mercado told The News. "He's in the hospital now. I feel sad, frustrated."
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    "No one wants to have to deal with the fact that someone died because of something they had to do. It's a terrible loss," Lynch added.
    No they didn't have to do it, but They decided to choke him anyway.
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    The Logic of Occupation: NYPD Arrests The Man Who Recorded The Police Murder of Eric Garner

    William Norman Grigg



    Daniel Pantaleo fatally assaults Eric Garner with an illegal chokehold


    In a development as predictable as the next sunrise, police in New York City have arrested 22-year-old Ramsey Orta, who used his cell phone to document the police killing of Eric Garner. Orta’s mother says that the NYPD has been shadowing her son since the video of the July 17 incident went public, sending officers to stake out the family’s home and shine spotlights at their windows.

    Undercover plainclothes officers claim that they saw Orta slip a handgun into the waistband of a girlfriend outside a hotel in what the department describes as a “drug-prone” neighborhood in Staten Island. Orta has a previous conviction that supposedly disqualifies him from owning a weapon.

    Assuming that he was actually caught with a stolen gun – rather than being framed by the cops with what they call a “throw-down gun” – Orta would appear to be a repeat offender. The same is true, however, of NYPD Officer Daniel Pantaleo, who assaulted Eric Garner with an illegal chokehold, leading to what the medical examiner has concluded was a death by homicide.

    Pantaleo was the subject of several previous complaints for excessive force prior to his lethal assault on Garner. One of them was filed by a Staten Island welder named Tommy Rice, who was one of four men stopped by Pataleo and several other officers about a mile from the site where Garner was killed. According to a lawsuit filed by Rice and his friend Darren Collins, they were stopped without cause and publicly strip-searched – the officers pulling down their pants and slapping their genitals in the futile hope of finding drugs. The suit was eventually settled for a trivial amount.

    Another lawsuit filed by Rylawn Walker accuses Pantaleo of arresting him without cause, holding him for 24 hours, and then inventing a “cover charge” to justify the abduction. Walker’s lawsuit against Pantaleo remains active.

    Patrick Lynch, the designated lie-spewer for the New York police officer’s union, insisted that “criminals like Mr. Orta who carry illegal firearms … stand to benefit the most by demonizing the good work of police officers.” Privileged criminals like Daniel Pantaleo present a far greater danger to the public, and they stand to benefit the most from transparently retaliatory arrests of people – whether or not they are model citizens – who document police corruption and abuse.

    “This guy was going to get arrested even if it was for an unmuffled lawn mower,” observed the Facebook page for In The Line of Duty, a company that provides training for police agencies.

    Orta wasn’t arrested because he is a dangerous criminal. In a city where nearly half of all murders go unsolved, the NYPD focused its attention on Orta because offending the department’s tribal sensitivities is of much greater importance than dealing with a criminal homicide committed by a member of the tribe.
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/...f-eric-garner/

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    The good thing is that he can just say the police planted(true or not) the gun and almost everybody would believe him

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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    No they didn't have to do it, but They decided to choke him anyway.
    In before anyone else.

    Poor cop, did it to himself.
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    How long before "going liberal" replaces "going postal"?

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    "Things like this happen, unfortunately," said Lynch, noting the office never intended to kill Garner. "And that doesn't mean to lessen it---it means it's the reality. In communities, we have to deal with the reality of the job we have to do."


    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

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    the reason most cops dont know cpr is because that would make them liable for someone who died as they stood there posing for the news cameras doing nothing. how is it that they dont know cpr?? am i being to dramatic or did i hit the nail on the head?

    distraught huh? i swear these cops now days are such crybaby pussies. how in the $#@! can this $#@! complain after he just killed a man? how can he complain about his feelings after he killed someones dad and husband??

    and i dont think asthma and HBP had anything to do with the mans death, but fortunate for the cop/murderer he has the coroner on his side.

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    "No one wants to have to deal with the fact that someone died because of something they had to do. It's a terrible loss," Lynch added.
    Hopefully the Officer can put this pain and tragedy behind him. He's probably still struggling with this, but we need him out on the streets protecting and serving. Man, that's gotta be a tough job.

    Meanwhile, the bystander who videotaped the incident, Ramsey Orta, 22, was busted carrying a loaded firearm late Saturday night, authorities said.

    The gun was reported stolen in 2007, prosecutors said.
    It makes sense that someone who would videotape this incident and try to get cops in trouble would be a gun thief. Cops 2, scumbags 0. I just love this country sometimes.
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    Police Union Commissar: If You Resist, You Should Expect to Die
    William Norman Grigg


    article here;

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/...expect-to-die/

    "The Patriarch"

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    “There is an attitude on our streets today that it is acceptable to resist arrest,” lamented Lynch. “That attitude is a direct result of a lack of respect for law enforcement.”

    While it is the moral duty of every decent person to cultivate disrespect for law enforcement, that attitude is not to blame (if that’s the appropriate word) for the growing resistance to officially sanctioned abduction. That inclination is a direct reaction to the impudence, arrogance, and aggressiveness of police officers, their palpable contempt for the public they supposedly serve, their sense of tribal solidarity with officers who commit crimes against innocent people, and the institutional immunity they enjoy.
    ...

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    "Resist and Die."-leos

    For every bad cop... there are 100 "good cops" giving their support.
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
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    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

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    The comments at you tube are hostile to this guy to say the least. Maybe we're finally coming to some kind of a tipping point?
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    The comments at you tube are hostile to this guy to say the least. Maybe we're finally coming to some kind of a tipping point?
    Hoping so...

    On another note, how many people take note of the powerful subliminal message that is always sent out at these "press conferences"?

    Every time, when there is need to imply "authority", these goons make sure they are always surrounded by a phalanx of similar, stern faced goons, staring at you with disapproval.

    A similar show plays out every time some low level political pooh-bah announces a new "crackdown" on this or that.

    The pooh bah will be surrounded by cops in full military regalia, all with the same stern faces of disapproval.

    $#@! all these fascist copsuckers...I'm sick to death of every single one.

    Good cops, my aching $#@!ing ass...yes, I see the thousands of them standing up to defend Eric Garner and denounce this murder.

    Army of Occupation.

    War on Us.

    And it will be all of us some day, our dog killed, our child blown up, our home burned down, or lying face down in a pool of blood as we bleed out and die, the last words in our ears, the mocking laughter of our oppressors, as they watch us and keep medical assistance away, "for safety reasons" of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    "Resist and Die."-leos

    For every bad cop... there are 100 "good cops" giving their support.
    All that is required for Evil to triumph is for Good Men to do nothing.
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    Man Imprisoned After Filming Eric Garner’s Death, Refusing to Eat, Rat Poison Found in Jail Food

    New York, New York – 22-year-old Ramsey Orta, the young man who filmed the NYPD killing Eric Garner, was arrested shortly after on trumped up charges. He has since been locked up at the notorious Rikers prison in New York.

    Immediately following the killing of Eric Garner, Orta was stalked and targeted by police. They allegedly scrutinized Orta’s daily life until they were able to find something to charge him with. Eventually, he was confronted by police who illegally searched him and arrested him for the non-violent crime of carrying an unregistered firearm.

    Orta had expressed concern for his safety after his arrest because he was sure that the police were retaliating against him for exposing what they had done to Eric Garner.

    While in prison, Orta has taken seemingly drastic measures to ensure that he is not killed by the gang he witnessed murder Eric Garner. Orta has been refusing to eat, as he fears that guards may poison him because he is a high-profile opponent of police brutality. Sadly, Orta’s fears were well-founded. While he has been behind bars at Rikers, dozens of other inmates have reported traces of rat poison in their food, a claim that was actually recently admitted by prison officials.

    It was reported by the New York Post last month that 19 different inmates were denied medical testing after bluish green pellets were found in their food. The prison admitted that these pellets were rat poison, but failed to give the inmates medical attention, and failed to offer any kind of explanation as to why the prison’s food was tainted with rat poison.

    Orta has been refusing to eat, so he has not ingested any of the food laced with rat poison and is not one of the 19 inmates in question. However, his health is deteriorating and he is becoming malnourished due to the lack of food.
    ...
    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/man...0OUcXuKkHrm.99

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    "Things like this happen, unfortunately," said Lynch, noting the office never intended to kill Garner. "And that doesn't mean to lessen it---it means it's the reality. In communities, we have to deal with the reality of the job we have to do."

    I just keep wondering where are his avengers? was no one in his family not consumed with enough rage to.... How can you read that and not call for a trial, not only for the leo doing the chokehold but for those around him who did not put a stop to it, it clearly says that if they see it and do not step in they may be held accountable.



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    Officials Refuse to Let Ramsey Orta Out of Jail Despite Grassroots Effort Raising & Posting Bail

    New York, NY — Three days ago, Ramsey Orta, the man who filmed the NYPD killing of Eric Garner was beginning to lose hope as he sat behind bars at Rikers prison in New York.

    As a high profile police accountability activist, Orta feared for his life while in police custody, and those fears were confirmed when fellow inmates at Rikers began falling ill because their food was laced with rat poison. To protect himself from similar attacks, Orta has been refusing to eat.

    However, after a push from The Free Thought Project, Ramsey Orta was given new-found hope. Orta’s story went viral and was shared tens of thousands of times on social media. The resultant virility has raised just over $40,000 as of Thursday.

    On Thursday afternoon Orta posted bond. However, smashing all of this recent hope, officials are still refusing to release him.

    According to PIX 11,

    The Staten Island district attorney, Dan Donovan, demanded a hearing to determine if the SOURCE of the bail money is permissible. That’s in spite of the fact that most of the donors, from around the country, have given their names. And District Attorney Dan Donovan happens to be running for Congress in the special election for the district made up of Staten Island and parts of Brooklyn four weeks from now.

    This politically ambitious DA is single-handedly denying the due process of Ramsey Orta. To make matters worse, there is no judge currently available to hear this ad hoc hearing demanded by Donovan. It won’t take place until Monday, at the earliest, despite Orta already posting bail.

    The Free Thought Project contacted the DA’s office and asked if it’s normal for them not to accept crowd-sourced bail. They claimed to have “no idea and can’t comment on on-going cases.” They then directed us to their public relations department.
    ...


    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/off...BCcRGCwKmDM.99

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Officials Refuse to Let Ramsey Orta Out of Jail Despite Grassroots Effort Raising & Posting Bail
    To make matters worse, there is no judge currently available to hear this ad hoc hearing demanded by Donovan. It won’t take place until Monday, at the earliest, despite Orta already posting bail.
    But there is a judge on hand at all times that could accept the bail, release Orta w/conditions that bail might later be revoked based on determinations of said as hoc hearing. The entire just-us department is filthy and corrupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Hoping so...

    On another note, how many people take note of the powerful subliminal message that is always sent out at these "press conferences"?

    Every time, when there is need to imply "authority", these goons make sure they are always surrounded by a phalanx of similar, stern faced goons, staring at you with disapproval.

    A similar show plays out every time some low level political pooh-bah announces a new "crackdown" on this or that.

    The pooh bah will be surrounded by cops in full military regalia, all with the same stern faces of disapproval.

    $#@! all these fascist copsuckers...I'm sick to death of every single one.

    Good cops, my aching $#@!ing ass...yes, I see the thousands of them standing up to defend Eric Garner and denounce this murder.

    Army of Occupation.

    War on Us.

    And it will be all of us some day, our dog killed, our child blown up, our home burned down, or lying face down in a pool of blood as we bleed out and die, the last words in our ears, the mocking laughter of our oppressors, as they watch us and keep medical assistance away, "for safety reasons" of course.
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    All that is required for Evil to triumph is for Good Men to do nothing.
    When all that is required to begin a lawful and peaceful revolution is agreement and acceptance of the ultimate purpose of free speech as being to enable the unity needed to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights; what is the justification for not agreeing and accepting?

    With that acceptance also comes awareness that this sacred right is widely abridged and that is responsible for our powerlessness, despite our numbers. Meaning that acceptance is the acceptance of the absolute need for a lawful and peaceful revolution.

    Why are people doing nothing except complaining? Why not make and gather around this constitutional agreement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher A. Brown View Post
    Why are people doing nothing except complaining? Why not make and gather around this constitutional agreement?
    Because people do not even realize there is a problem.

    Complaining leads to awareness.

    Awareness leads to unity.

    Unity leads to action.

    Unless it is shut down and silenced within the medium in which awareness is being attempted, as it so very often is, by any number of specific actions.

    In the case of RPFs, by being moved to an area with low traffic and visibility, where all the "cop bashers" can bitch and complain in a meaningless circle jerk.

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    That is all they know how to do, LIE.

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    The following list of essential job functions common to all policing was developed pursuant to the statewide job task analysis of a ll entry-level police officers. These functions do not define the entire scope of duties relevant to an entry-level police officer, but rather, are those which have been found to be generally essential to all entry-level police officers in all jurisdictions of this State. ... The essential job functions/tasks are:
    ...
    (h) Emergency medical assistance.
    (1) Administer cardio-pulmonary resuscitation (CPR).
    (2) Apply basic first aid to control bleeding.
    (3) Apply basic first aid to treat for amputations.
    (4) Apply basic first aid to treat for choking (e.g., Heimlich method).
    (5) Apply basic first aid to treat for convulsions.
    (6) Apply basic first aid to treat for diabetic reaction.
    (7) Apply basic first aid to treat for heart attack.
    (8) Apply basic first aid to treat for seizure.
    (9) Apply basic first aid to treat for shock.
    (10) Talk with person attempting suicide to get them to stop or delay attempt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Because people do not even realize there is a problem.

    Complaining leads to awareness.

    Awareness leads to unity.

    Unity leads to action.

    Unless it is shut down and silenced within the medium in which awareness is being attempted, as it so very often is, by any number of specific actions.

    In the case of RPFs, by being moved to an area with low traffic and visibility, where all the "cop bashers" can bitch and complain in a meaningless circle jerk.
    Okay. How about people have heard there might be a problem, but do not believe it is a serious as they heard it was?

    Now we are up against the issue of the purpose of free speech being abridged again. People heard there was a problem then covert agents manipulating opinion in the interests of the infiltrated federal government came along and made a false agreement, negating the problem, in front of them, confusing them. Now they do not know if there is a problem but the false agreement advocated a position they were more socially comfortable with so have mostly assimilated that position of disbelief in a problem serious enough for them to take notice and get involved.

    Complaining does lead to awareness of a problem. However, as I wrote, there are covert manipulating agents posting in ways that create confusion based in the publics perceptions of a false agreement the posting is intended to support.

    Now the complaining is reduced to a petty sniveling match between Americans, In the perceptions of the deceived and manipulated masses. The very action of complaining is compromised and marginalized by accusations of "conspiracy" or "sovereign citizen" agenda etc. That is reinforced by the SAME GROUP and others not associated that are also false. The result, the masses do not even pay attention to the complaining any longer.

    So this,

    "Unless it is shut down and silenced within the medium in which awareness is being attempted, as it so very often is, by any number of specific actions."

    is actually not comprehensive to the situation. Wanna see an example?

    Here is complaint based in a good deal of fact.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...31#post5834531

    Here is the counter thread activity which has the false group participating in both making it more visible, and engaging in distractive, confusing, misleading information that is completely useless but disguised as complaint.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...e-Debate/page6

    If those posters were not covert agents, they would have noticed that I've posted redundant facts supporting my assertions. They would notice that the list of questions creating some feasibility for the false theory and that those very reasonable and technically astute questions were completely unaddressed later in the thread. Note that non of the other posters are asking for accountability to answering those questions. Now you see the false group.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post5828345

    "In the case of RPFs, by being moved to an area with low traffic and visibility, where all the "cop bashers" can bitch and complain in a meaningless circle jerk."

    You will notice that the first link above was created as a split thread from the second link which was certainly created by RPF at the request and complaint of the covert agents together posing as a concerned majority with a valid complaint.

    Another example is particularly relevant to this thread, which was originally posted in the individual rights violations forum,

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdi...-Studies/page2

    but was moved to grassroots. That thread indicates a serious deprival of my rights, which is also the deprival of the pro se rights of at least the entire 9th circuit jurisdiction if not the nation. If the family of the man shot in the back files and is dismissed, and they later join with other plaintiffs with the same basic civil rights complaint, the 125 year old court rules removed would automatically give them a new magistrate and judge.

    Not any longer, if those same rules were unconstitutionally removed in south carolina as they were here.

    ON EDIT:
    I did a search, downloaded the .pdf revised January to find the words "Assignments of judges" are not even in the rules.
    Last edited by Christopher A. Brown; 04-11-2015 at 01:36 PM.

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    Ramsey Orta, The Guy Who Filmed Eric Garner’s Death, Sentenced To 4 Years In Prison
    http://www.activistpost.com/2016/10/...rs-prison.html

    In another display of America’s backward legal system, Ramsey Orta – the man who filmed the death of Eric Garner – was sentenced to four years in prison this Monday.

    According to Gothamist, he was sentenced because of weapon and drug-related charges. Supporters of the activist, however, maintain that the charges are ‘bogus’ and are an effect of a biased, corrupt justice system. They say he is a victim of police retaliation and have also expressed concern about his well-being in jail while he serves his sentence.

    After Justice Stephen Rooney read out Orta’s sentence in Staten Island Supreme Court, protesters chanted “No justice no peace! F—ck these racist police!”.
    [...]
    The 25-year-old activist who filmed police putting Garner in a chokehold before his death told his attorneys that filming the African American’s death put a target on his back.

    Last week, before his sentence was decided, Orta told Al Jazeera:

    [Hours after] Eric died, at 4am in the morning, there was a spotlight shining through my window. I looked out the window and there was a cop [police] car outside. They parked outside my house and stopped people coming in and out of my house. That was going on until the day they ruled it [Garner’s case] a homicide. I’ve been arrested and let out many times. And now I am convicted of only two of seven cases.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
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    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    Ramsey Orta, The Guy Who Filmed Eric Garner’s Death, Sentenced To 4 Years In Prison
    http://www.activistpost.com/2016/10/...rs-prison.html
    The world would have been better off if instead of a camera he had balls and gun to begin with.

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Anniversary of Eric Garner Death Brings New Development

    The NYPD announced on Monday that it will allow disciplinary proceedings to go forward against a patrolman accused in the notorious chokehold death of an unarmed black man, saying it's run out of patience with federal authorities' indecision about whether to bring a criminal case. On the eve of the four-year anniversary of Eric Garner's killing, a pointed letter from the NYPD's top lawyer informed the US Department of Justice of an administrative case that could result in dismissal for the white officer, Daniel Pantaleo, because "there is no end in sight" to the federal probe. Typically, the department waits for federal prosecutors to conclude civil rights violations inquiries before taking action. But other probes have taken far less time than the case of a victim whose dying words, "I can't breathe," became a slogan for the Black Lives Matter movement.

    Per the AP, police watchdog agency, the Civilian Complaint Review Board, will prosecute Panteleo under a memorandum of understanding with the NYPD, according to Byrne. In a statement, the DOJ said it already told the Police Department in the spring it could go forward and that the move "does not have any bearing on the decision-making timeline." A lawyer for Pantaleo, who's been on paid desk duty, declined comment on Monday. Pat Lynch, head of the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, called on DOJ to close its case but said that the officer deserves due process in the disciplinary process. The 43-year-old Garner, who was accused of selling loose, untaxed cigarettes, was stopped by police on Staten Island on July 17, 2014, and refused to be handcuffed. Pantaleo is seen on a widely watched cell phone video putting Garner in an apparent chokehold, which is banned under NYPD policy.
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    On 17 July 2014 the 6 ft 3 in, 350-pound big, black Eric Garner (I wouldn’t call this a giant) was approached by a plainclothes cop in New York, supposedly for illegally selling single cigarettes, who tells him to move away.
    Garner doesn’t behave aggressive, but is obviously annoyed over being harassed over and over again by the boys in blue. He replies:
    Get away [garbled] for what? Every time you see me, you want to mess with me. I'm tired of it. It stops today. Why would you...? Everyone standing here will tell you I didn't do nothing. I did not sell nothing. Because every time you see me, you want to harass me. You want to stop me [garbled] selling cigarettes. I'm minding my business, officer, I'm minding my business. Please just leave me alone. I told you the last time, please just leave me alone.
    In the following video you can see the conversation. After backup arrives at about 1:20 the police attack him. Police officer Daniel Pantaleo brings Garner down by applying a chokehold (even then Garner doesn’t react aggressive in return). After Garner has been brought down his face his put on the pavements and he repeats "I can't breathe": https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ld-death-video


    Here’s a subsequent 7 minute video, where you can see that Garner doesn’t move; I think he is already dead. His eyelids open a few times – dead eyes. After being put on the stretcher (to bring him to the ambulance) the cops say that he’s breathing: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...garners-death/


    I’d say that Garner had good reasons to be annoyed over being harassed. He had been arrested by the NYPD more than 30 times since 1980 on trumped up charges. Numerous of these arrests had been for allegedly selling unlicensed cigarettes (is that a really great crime?).
    In 2007, Garner filed a handwritten complaint in federal court accusing a cop for "digging his fingers in my rectum in the middle of the street" and also exposing and searching his penis, even when he agreed to be searched in a private location (why is the police only interested in men?).

    The medical examiner ruled Garner's death a homicide. According to the coroner Garner died due to a combination of a chokehold, compression of his chest, and poor health.
    NYPD policy prohibits the use of chokeholds. On 4 December 2014 the grand jury decided not to indict Pantaleo.
    Pantaleo was eventually fired on 19 August 2019, more than five years after Garner was killed.

    In October 2014, Garner's family announced their intention to file a wrongful death lawsuit against the City of New York, they settled the case for $5.9-million on 13 July 2015: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner
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