Hypocritical, all talking heads do this, including Rivera himself.Rivera was then brought in to discuss. He said Scheuer is “mixing and conflating intelligence with his own ideological spin.”
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"I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."
Just like drones only target terrorists.
The epitome of libertarian populism
Geraldo stood on Bin Laden's lawn, so he's in the know on all of that intelligence and stuff.
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Did you even listen to the interview? Mike said they had an 'asset' with bin Laden and his cohorts. He said there wouldn't have been any collateral damage. I believe him.
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"I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."
Does anyone know offhand if Scheuer ever pointed to any credible evidence that Bin Laden was connected to 9-11? Scheuer seems to avoid 9-11 and approach the terrorism issue from a different angle.
He could even see Russia from Bin Laden's front lawn.
Peruse this: http://www.historycommons.org/entity...ichael_scheuer
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"I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."
I know, as if that somehow privyed him to some intelligence. One thing I give credit to Geraldo for is that he isn't a pussy, he will go stand right in conflict.
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Make a move and plead the 5th because you can't plead the 1st
Bill made the right decision. He doesn't have the authority to launch a missile at Afghanistan without congress, even if that wasn't his reason.
I'm also curious how Taliban people is defined.
How can we make a campaign issue in 2016, out of that fact that Bubba DIDN'T kill Bin Laden?
Was that before or after he found Saddam's WMDs in Al Capone's basement?
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I like Scheuer, but he lost it in this video; if he would have kept his head, he could have made a good point. As it is though, he just looks like a hot head.
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Correct. He was the major architect and extremely hands-on, not to mention his considerable bankroll to fund any scheme he devised. The world isn't all sunshine and lollipops.
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Agreed. Scheuer is a patriot and wants to defend America first and foremost.
If we're going to send assets into territory like this, an order of taking someone out should be on a whenever basis, not on a 'oh, hey, wait for the word and risk blowing your cover continuously getting messages to and from us'.
If the situation is true that there was an asset in Bin Laden's camp, this means he wasn't close enough to kill Bin Laden himself - he would have merely known where he was, so the US could come in with a missile strike.
The epitome of libertarian populism
I remember when Geraldo had some poor peasant call someone allegedly from the Taliban.
Geraldo proceeded to demand this man translate to the Taliban that they are cowards and America is number one. That "we" will find them and kill them. Probably got this kid beheaded if it was not completely fabricated from a green screen.
Can't seem to find the video anymore.
ETA: Well, I'll be damned. I found it.
What a $#@!ing idiot.
ETA II: My memory failed me on what exactly he said but regardless, it is far from journalism. He is possibly the farthest thing from an expert on Middle Eastern affairs and acts like a pompous ass quite frequently.
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Kidney disease killed Bin Laden.
"If you had killed Usama Bin Laden in 1998, you would not have had 9/11... you probably would not have had Iraq."
"There would be no casualties."
I see more than one clown.
What is clownish about that statement, specifically?
Not that I particularly disagree with your assessment, or his, for that matter, I am just curious as to what you mean.
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BTW, that neither answers nor even addresses the question that I asked.
Another non-believer in the lead poisoning conspiracy theory of the POTUS, eh?
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Yep. It was reported by MSM and then disappeared. OBL also denied anything to do with 911.
The Taliban even offered to turn OBL over to Bush if he would guarantee that he would be held and tried in a neutral country, but Bush ignored them and started bombing Afghanistan.
There is no spoon.
far too much credit, imo.
he's no Ashleigh Banfield
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I vaguely remember the time line of the Lewinsky thing and Bin Laden reports -I believe "Frontline" had aired it's first Bin Laden episode around that time.
Around that time I remember thinking to myself that Clinton probably did not go after Bin Laden because the timing would've of looked like he was trying divert attention away from the Lewinsky thing. It's a thought that I had before 9-11 at any rate.
Looking back, not going after Bin Laden was probably more of a business decision. Why warn of a dangerous snow load if you're working for the guys who are selling roofs?
Clinton(s)?
*spit*
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He won't explain, because he can't back it up with anything.
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"I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."
He is a hot-head. He was well-known in the CIA as a hot-head. He has never been able to suffer fools lightly. But he's not running for office, and he doesn't work for the gov anymore, and his reaction to ass-fat-injected-in-the-face Geraldo doesn't diminish what he said, or the truth of it.
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"I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."
I'd probably become more annoyed than he being taken as a fool by relatively low paid and ignorant propagandists.
I'd like to see more people calling them out for the snakes that they are, personally.
That anyone takes those clowns seriously is a discredit to journalism and intellectual integrity in general.
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My guess. Like him or not, Bin Laden was a great leader and had a strong following but who is to say another person wouldn't have stepped up? You can't kill all the terrorists but you can kill the reason they want to become terrorists.
Any reasonable intelligent person has a limit of how much stupidity he can withstand.
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