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    Jewish group calls for resignation of gun lobbyist for linking gun control to the Holocaust

    The truth is inflammatory. It's downright bizarre how so many Jews are pro-gun control.

    The Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle has scheduled a news conference for Tuesday morning calling for the resignation of a gun lobbyist who reportedly made inflammatory remarks referencing the Holocaust.
    http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...mmentsxml.html

    The Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle has scheduled a news conference for Tuesday morning calling for the resignation of a gun lobbyist who reportedly made remarks linking gun control to the Holocaust.
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    An audio clip (seati.ms/1nPMWez) plays over a still photo of a gathering and purportedly features National Rifle Association lobbyist Brian Judy talking about Jews who support gun control.

    The remarks were reportedly made last week at a gathering in Silverdale opposing I-594, a measure on the ballot this fall that would expand background checks for gun purchases.

    In the recording, a speaker references Nick Hanauer, a Seattle entrepreneur who has contributed more than $300,000 to an independent-expenditure group supporting I-594.

    Hanauer, who is Jewish, wrote recently in Politico about how his family fled Nazi Germany. The speaker on the recording references Hanauer’s piece:

    “Now [Hanauer is] funding, he’s put half a million dollars, toward this policy, the same policy that led to his family getting run out of Germany by the Nazis. You know, it’s staggering to me, it’s just, you can’t make this stuff up. That these people, it’s like any Jewish people I meet who are anti-gun, I think, ‘are you serious? Do you not remember what happened?’ And why did that happen? Because they registered guns and then they took them.”

    “Why did you have to flee to this country in the first place?” the speaker continues. “Hello! Is anybody home here?”
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
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    They need to shut up.

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    I'm confused...

    e.g., http://jpfo.org/ seems completely legit. Maybe they make the same point more tactfully.

    EDIT UPDATE: Here is a chart that shows some gov-gun-confiscation death numbers...
    http://jpfo.org/pdf02/genocide-chart.pdf
    Last edited by FindLiberty; 07-29-2014 at 04:49 PM.

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    I think Judy makes a great point.I am also astounded by the prevailing anti-gun position of blacks in this country.
    Don't they recognize the racist anti-black roots of gun control in America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindLiberty View Post
    I'm confused...

    e.g., http://jpfo.org/ seems completely legit. Maybe they make the same point more tactfully.

    EDIT UPDATE: Here is a chart that shows some gov-gun-confiscation death numbers...
    http://jpfo.org/pdf02/genocide-chart.pdf
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    If you think you are in control, you don't necessarily want to enable those who might want to overthrow you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mad cow View Post
    I think Judy makes a great point.I am also astounded by the prevailing anti-gun position of blacks in this country.
    Don't they recognize the racist anti-black roots of gun control in America?
    They don't care about the roots.

    All they know is that a lot of their people have been killed by guns, and they prefer safety.

    So of course they are going to support "doing something" about guns.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    They don't care about the roots.

    All they know is that a lot of their people have been killed by guns, and they prefer safety.

    So of course they are going to support "doing something" about guns.

    Since when do no guns = safety? Tell that to the Tutsi of Rwanda.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FloralScent View Post
    Since when do no guns = safety? Tell that to the Tutsi of Rwanda.
    Tell that to them. I don't agree with that, but they do. Convincing them otherwise is an extremely difficult task, one that our opponents would love us to attempt.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

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    They need to grow thicker skin and stop crying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    If you think you are in control, you don't necessarily want to enable those who might want to overthrow you.
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    http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...ionnraxml.html

    Dvorchik also demanded that the national office of the NRA disavow Judy’s purported remarks and the “idiotic, simplistic and simply wrong” idea that the systematic persecution of the Jews in Nazi Germany has anything to do with a ballot measure that calls for background checks for gun purchases.

    The Nazis confiscated weapons from Jews, along with all of their other property, before forcing them into ghettos or shipping them off to slave-labor and extermination camps.

    To question whether the Jews, who lost nearly 6 million people in the ghettos and Nazi death camps, don’t “understand history is the most vile rhetorical question that has ever been asked,” Dvorchik said.

    Dvorchik was joined by Rep. Reuven Carlyle, D-Seattle, who said Judy’s statements “carry dark, ugly and subtle undertones of anti-Semitism.”
    Oh bruddah! History shows that registration leads to confiscation. If I say Jews for Gun Control are ignoring history, does that make me an anti-Semite too?

    Initiative 594 is a universal handgun registration scheme being promoted by a very wealthy group of anti-gun elitists who have already raised nearly $1.4 million to qualify this initiative. Although they describe it as a "universal background check" measure, it is not “universal” because criminals will never comply with the requirements. It is however, Universal handgun registration.
    It looks like dumbass Washington voters are going to vote YAY!
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    Based on newly-discovered, secret documents from German archives, diaries and newspapers of the time, Gun Control in the Third Reich presents the definitive, yet hidden history of how the Nazi regime made use of gun control to disarm and repress its enemies and consolidate power. The countless books on the Third Reich and the Holocaust fail even to mention the laws restricting firearms ownership, which rendered political opponents and Jews defenseless. A skeptic could surmise that a better-armed populace might have made no difference, but the National Socialist regime certainly did not think so—it ruthlessly suppressed firearm ownership by disfavored groups.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    Gaining the right to self-defense is basically the entire point of the book of Esther.

    But wow.
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