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Thread: In your view, is Obama a political slave?

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    Um, both?

    He has some power, but continues to abuse the power he has. Other stuff that are real problems, he does nothing about. Id have to vote No because he is a member of the Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, and Council on Foreign Relations, all three major propoganda and greed groups. His choice to cooperate with those who exploit humanity is what causes me to think No, he wants to be the Master to the American Slaves. Totally debatable and subjective opinion however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Um, both?

    He has some power, but continues to abuse the power he has. Other stuff that are real problems, he does nothing about. Id have to vote No because he is a member of the Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, and Council on Foreign Relations, all three major propoganda and greed groups. His choice to cooperate with those who exploit humanity is what causes me to think No, he wants to be the Master to the American Slaves. Totally debatable and subjective opinion however.
    Ok, it has merit ; no President is a 100% puppet or 100% independent and casting all his actons as those of a puppet seems to absolve him of any responsibility ( although that is debatable since in case of war crimes, " I was just following orders" is not deemed a valid defense ifor example).

    If most of the policies are being followed with his own volution, then his double speak before elections fooled a lot of people.

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    Obama is a globalist certainly, but he's not calling the shots. He's an actor.

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    Maybe, but his house is really nice.

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    Poll doesn't have an option for I think he's a jackass.

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    I think Barack is truth talker, but a liar, as well as a reluctant strong leader. He is non-interventionist, but continues military spending like no tomorrow.

    He is bogged down by special interest for sure, he has his own collective beliefs, as being on the leftwing, but a useless one. Hell if actually stood for some views without the militarism perhaps he'd be respected even by Libertarians. But only so far, only so far.

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    It's more like I'm the political slave. These people are the masters who hardly think like you and I. Anybody see the thread where the Infowars reporter films the DEA building? The DEA cockroach gets in the filming guy's face. These people are in NO WAY like you. They are not only quantitatively different from you, but they are qualitatively different. People like Obama and this DEA filth are basically your enemy.
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    I don't doubt that if Obama decided to implement Ron Paul's policies tomorrow that he'd be shot. But I don't think its fear that makes him do as he does. Obama wants to do the things he does, and he was picked for that reason. So no, Obama isn't a slave.... we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    I don't doubt that if Obama decided to implement Ron Paul's policies tomorrow that he'd be shot. But I don't think its fear that makes him do as he does. Obama wants to do the things he does, and he was picked for that reason. So no, Obama isn't a slave.... we are.
    He was a raised as a product of the system. Examine the Ford Foundation (Ann Dunham) and quite possibly was employed by the CIA in Pakistan. While he probably isn't too preoccupied with the gritty details of his policies, he definitely is an advocate for them. He's the affable front man for this takeover.

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    I actually want to believe that when Obama spouted all the "hope and change" stuff, that he was actually genuine in some real principled beliefs, no matter whether I disagreed with him or not.

    Too bad he was bought out by the power brokers long ago and knew it would never come to fruition, but hey it was a nice thought.
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    The position of President has always been intended to be one of Service.

    Presidents were supposed to serve the People. He is still a servant of sorts. Since he can personally benefit from the results of his decisions, what he serves is his own self interests, or those who line his pockets. One thing is for sure, he does NOT serve the will of the American People, and may very well expect that we serve him.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

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    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    I don't doubt that if Obama decided to implement Ron Paul's policies tomorrow that he'd be shot. But I don't think its fear that makes him do as he does. Obama wants to do the things he does, and he was picked for that reason. So no, Obama isn't a slave.... we are.
    Yeah, I doubt the TPTB (if they exist in any form) would pick someone who possesses conflicting views to be the President of the United States, if only to prevent said President going all Night of the Long Knives on them.

    Obama seems to be the classic example of Lord Acton's famous quote. If what he was saying on the campaign trail in 2008 was genuine, he allowed the power and the wealth that comes with the Office corrupt his vision for society and the Republic. It's a shame too, for if Obama stuck by perhaps 60% or so of what he said on the campaign trail, he could very well have been a decent President. He would have obviously been no Ron Paul, but he could have at least been a stopgap.

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    A puppet,, and a willing participant.

    Certainly not calling the shots,, but willingly obeying those that put him there.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I think Barack is truth talker, but a liar, as well as a reluctant strong leader. He is non-interventionist, but continues military spending like no tomorrow.

    He is bogged down by special interest for sure, he has his own collective beliefs, as being on the leftwing, but a useless one. Hell if actually stood for some views without the militarism perhaps he'd be respected even by Libertarians. But only so far, only so far.

    As they always say, the money will run out at some point.
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    Toyotomi Hideyshi, Shogun, August 29, 1558




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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    He is still a servant of sorts.
    But not a good one.


    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    A puppet,, and a willing participant.

    Certainly not calling the shots,, but willingly obeying those that put him there.
    Couldn't help notice it that you voted the opposite of this view as this seems to define a puppet/political slave.

    A willing slave or "Uncle Tom" for lack of more accurate term is still a subservient person in the real sense.

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Poll doesn't have an option for I think he's a jackass.
    I'd say the problem is that the poll is lacking a good ol' "Kludge is a douchebag." option.

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    Obama is just a front man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post

    Couldn't help notice it that you voted the opposite of this view as this seems to define a puppet/political slave.

    A willing slave or "Uncle Tom" for lack of more accurate term is still a subservient person in the real sense.
    And active participant. Not a slave..
    He is not being forced/held against his will.

    He just ain't the BOSS.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    And active participant. Not a slave..
    He is not being forced/held against his will.

    He just ain't the BOSS.
    Ok and it is not far from reality, but questions was bit more nanced though in terms of "puppet", " political slave" and not old fashioned slave being held subservient with physical force.


    This was an interesting questions raised while back by an anti-war activist:

    Ralph Nader asks if Barack Obama will be an Uncle Tom


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Ok and it is not far from reality, but questions was bit more nanced though in terms of "puppet", " political slave" and not old fashioned slave being held subservient with physical force.


    This was an interesting questions raised while back by an anti-war activist:

    Ralph Nader asks if Barack Obama will be an Uncle Tom
    No,, an "Uncle Tom" was a slave that sucked up for personal gain.

    I do not think Obama is a slave at all.
    More of a "true believer".. an actor playing a role,, and being well compensated for it.
    He is a socialist because he is a socialist,, he believes in it.

    I was hired help,,not a slave.
    I did side jobs because I enjoyed the restoration,, and was paid for it. but I was not a slave.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Obama is not a political slave; he is a monster ... the most despicable human being I have ever seen. And I never thought anyone could trump George Bush as the most despicable .. I just hope and pray we can survive another two years of this non human, droid.



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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    No,, an "Uncle Tom" was a slave that sucked up for personal gain.

    I do not think Obama is a slave at all.
    More of a "true believer".. an actor playing a role,, and being well compensated for it.
    He is a socialist because he is a socialist,, he believes in it.

    I was hired help,,not a slave.
    I did side jobs because I enjoyed the restoration,, and was paid for it. but I was not a slave.

    All valid points, I'm wondering if our diffrence is on the definition of "political slave" .. which in my view is evolved in modern times and means anyone who is forced to do things to survive politically against his/her moral values/beliefs.

    Any difference here seems on nuance and we can agree to disgaree. But I think on Foreign Policy he is as close to a "Political Slave" as it gets and is compressed between his political survival instincts amid pressures/intimidations/carrots and showing loyalty to his major financiers ( Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor as Rev Wright once alluded to painting him as bankers' puppet).

    One recent example. Obama is not running for relection any more, do you think his below statement right after Israel started dropping bombs on Palestinian houses that killed mostly children/women/civilians was as a "true believer" or as a "political slave" or as something else like "hired help" or "front man"?


    Obama: 'Israel Has The Right To Defend Itself'

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    Obama is not a political slave; he is a monster ... the most despicable human being I have ever seen. And I never thought anyone could trump George Bush as the most despicable .. I just hope and pray we can survive another two years of this non human, droid.
    Had Mitt Romney been elected he would have been worse. The President is always worse than the previous one, barring some exceptional reason for that not to be the case.

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