"Sharing" And Brainwashing Children

[PierzStyx]

I read this short blog post recently and it got me to thinking about how we when we are teaching our children how to "share" we really are just preparing them for a life of servitude and self-entitlement. Here is the article:

http://www.sunnyskyz.com/blog/365/Th...TAWRvj7AZqR.01

There is a sharing policy at my son's preschool. It's a parent-run co-op, so we have to have policies like this so that we will all handle situations relatively the same way. The policy is that a child can keep a toy as long as they want to. If another child wants the toy, they have to wait until the first child is done with it. We'll even "save" toys for the child if they have to go to the bathroom, go to the snack table, etc. so that it won't get taken before they're done. This applies to anything in the yard or school that can be played with, including swings and monkey bars.

At first, it didn't really occur to me to wonder why this was the policy. I just went with it, because that's the rule, and it didn't seem like a big deal to me. The kids all know the rule, so outside of maybe their first two weeks at the school, they don't throw a giant fit when you tell them, "You can have it when Sally Jo is done." But lately I've been noticing a totally different attitude toward sharing in other places we go, and I'm starting to really know exactly why this is the school's policy.
Two Questionable Sharing Practices

Here are a couple of examples of questionable sharing practices that I've seen recently. The first comes from a good friend of mine. (And I hope she doesn't mind that I use her story as an example.) She and her almost-2-year-old were at the park one day. He had brought a small car from home to play with. Another child, a little bit older, wanted to play with the car and was demanding that my friend's son give him the car. A typical toddler scuffle ensued, and the other mother told her son, "I guess his mom didn't teach him how to share." Never mind the fact that the car belongs to him and that when someone asks you to share, "No" is a perfectly legitimate response.

My second story happened one morning at the local rec center. Friday mornings they fill the gym with tons of Little Tykes climbing structures and those plastic cars they can drive around, tricycles, big balls, even a bouncy castle. Basically a toddler's dream play room. There's this one red car in particular my son really likes playing with, and the last time we went, he drove it around the entire hour and a half we were there. While most of the moms with smaller kids will shadow their kids as they play, my son is old enough now that I can sit on the sidelines and watch. From there I watched a mom whose son wanted to drive the car approach my son repeatedly, saying, "OK, now it's time for you to give him a turn!" Of course he ignored her, and eventually she gave up. There were a million other little cars for her son to drive, including one that was almost identical. Or maybe I would have stepped in at some point.
Real-World Lessons

I don't agree with the approach of the mothers in either of these situations. I think it does a child a great disservice to teach him that he can have something that someone else has, simply because he wants it. And I can understand the desire to give your children everything they want; we all have it. But it's a good lesson for you both to learn that this isn't always possible, and you shouldn't step all over other people to get these things.

Furthermore, this is not how things work in the real world. In your child's adult life, he's going to think he's owed everything he sees. This is already happening in the next generation. I read a fascinating article about how today's teens and 20-somethings are expecting raises and promotions at their jobs for reasons like, "I show up every day."

If you doubt my reasoning, think about your own day-to-day adult life. You wouldn't cut in front of someone in the grocery checkout line just because you didn't feel like waiting. And most grown adults wouldn't take something from someone, like a phone or a pair of sunglasses, just because they wanted to use it. (Well, maybe some of you would. In which case, this post may not be for you.)

It's hard, as with so many things about parenthood, but let's teach our kids how to cope with disappointment, because it happens. And we won't always be there to fix it for them. Let's teach them how they can get things they want through diligence, patience, and hard work.

How do you feel about the concept of sharing where young children are concerned? I know you likely don't have a "policy," as I sure didn't before the preschool told me they had one. Now I notice a variety of different takes on the subject from the parents I see around. Makes me wonder if we need to be talking about this issue a little bit more.

"And most grown adults wouldn't take something from someone, like a phone or a pair of sunglasses, just because they wanted to use it."

Maybe not. But then again, maybe so. Adults certainly have no compunctions about taking my money from me in the form of "income taxes" without bothering to get my permission. And since money is exchanged for goods and services, they might as well be taking my phone or shades from me. Good insights here. Wonder how far down the rabbit hole the writer/readers will go following this line of thought. The fact is, you don't have to share something you own. It is yours, and no one has a right to demand use of it. In this context sharing is just code for moralized theft, piracy in the guise of altruism. Neither should you be called to sacrifice your joy for another's pleasure. If the writer's child is playing with a toy, no other child has a right to it, unless of course they own it. Since that wasn't the case in the second situation, those other kids need to learn the lesson that you don't have a right to something just because you want it. That kid can go an use another car. There is no sane or just reason for the writer to deprive her son of something he is still enjoying because another kid is being vain and selfish and insisting on that one particular car. But look at the comments. The very idea that so many seem to think that the second kid had some special right to play with that toy car because he wanted it is pathetic and telling. No wonder there are so many self-entitled man-children filling the world with their useless parasitic demands.

[tangent4ronpaul]

SItuation 1 - don't bring a personal tou into a communal atmosphere if you and your kid are not willing to share. But make clear it's yours and is going home with you.

Situation 2 - there is a nearly identical toy... eithor direct the other kid to it, or make peace and send your son to that toy. What difference does it make.

-t

[tangent4ronpaul]

SItuation 1 - don't bring a personal tou into a communal atmosphere if you and your kid are not willing to share. But make clear it's yours and is going home with you.

Situation 2 - there is a nearly identical toy... eithor direct the other kid to it, or make peace and send your son to that toy. What difference does it make.

-t

[tangent4ronpaul]

SItuation 1 - don't bring a personal tou into a communal atmosphere if you and your kid are not willing to share. But make clear it's yours and is going home with you.

Situation 2 - there is a nearly identical toy... eithor direct the other kid to it, or make peace and send your son to that toy. What difference does it make.

-t

[Henry Rogue]

I've been thinking that for quite sometime.

I rad this short blog post recently and it got me to thinking about maybe how we are teaching our children how to "share" is really just preparing them for a life of servitude and self-entitlement. Here is the article:

http://www.sunnyskyz.com/blog/365/Th...TAWRvj7AZqR.01



"And most grown adults wouldn't take something from someone, like a phone or a pair of sunglasses, just because they wanted to use it."

Maybe not. But then again, maybe so. Adults certainly have no compunctions about taking my money from me in the form of "income taxes" without
bothering to get my permission. And since money is exchanged for goods and services, they might as well be taking my phone or shades from me. Good insights here. Wonder how far down the rabbit hole the writer/readers will go following this line of thought. The fact is, you don't have to share something you own. It is yours, and no one has a right to demand use of it. In this context sharing is just code for moralized theft, piracy in the guise of altruism. Neither should you be called to sacrifice your joy for another's pleasure. If the writer's child is playing with a toy, no other child has a right to it, unless of course they own it. Since that wasn't the case in the second situation, those other kids need to learn the lesson that you don't have a right to something just because you want it. That kid can go an use another car. There is no sane or just reason for the writer to deprive her son of something he is still enjoying because another kid is being vain and selfish and insisting on that one particular car. But look at the comments. The very idea that so many seem to think that the second kid had some special right to play with that toy car because he wanted it is pathetic and telling. No wonder there are so many self-entitled man-children filling the world with their useless parasitic demands.

, and the other mother told her son, "I guess his mom didn't teach him how to share."

And I guess this mother didn't teach her kid to not steal.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Good article. Thanks for posting.

The mother in that second story basically takes a self-centered approach. She does not even ask. She demands that the kid "share" his toy. Good for the kid for ignoring her.

I think sharing comes from the heart. If somebody thinks that something is the right thing to do, then you can't demand it. Those things are taught through example by parents, churches, older siblings, mentors, etc. They are demonstrated in everyday interaction.

Some people pretend to be good and caring. They want to show you the size of their caring heart with the size of their legislation that demands your caring attention and compliance.

[donnay]

"...but...but...it's for the children." How many times have we heard that in our lifetime?

[Philhelm]

This thread is funny, since I recently said to my 1.5 year old daughter:

"Remember what I said about sharing. It is a display of weakness. A Foster takes what is his by right."

"Sophia is on a no affection regimen - I do not want her to become soft and weak like other parents' children."

[PierzStyx]

Good article. Thanks for posting.

The mother in that second story basically takes a self-centered approach. She does not even ask. She demands that the kid "share" his toy. Good for the kid for ignoring her.

I think sharing comes from the heart. If somebody thinks that something is the right thing to do, then you can't demand it. Those things are taught through example by parents, churches, older siblings, mentors, etc. They are demonstrated in everyday interaction.

Some people pretend to be good and caring. They want to show you the size of their caring heart with the size of their legislation that demands your caring attention and compliance.

I agree. Charity is a worthy goal. And it is one that if embraced would change the world. But there is a stark difference between charity and legislative theft. In order to be charity something must be a free will action. If you use force to make someone be "charitable" then all you've done is stolen from one person (or from a group of people) and given to another person. You've committed piracy and renamed it altruism.

I couldn't help but think about Bastiat's comments about the institutionalization of plunder by the government, and how once you begin to plunder everyone wants a piece of the action. This article made me think about how hard it is to get people to understand this concept, and why that may be because we teach children they are entitled to another's stuff at such an early age. By teaching them "sharing" as enforced concept and that "everyone has to share their stuff" we essentially raise them to justify plundering first other children and finally other adults. No wonder they become self-entitled tax thieves.

And it amazes me how you're the "selfish one" or the "self-centered one" when you reject the system of theft, whether it is "sharing" or "taxes" somehow wanting your own things and control of them makes you the bad guy.

[PierzStyx]

"...but...but...it's for the children." How many times have we heard that in our lifetime?

Yeah, it's for the children, so they'll grow up into well-behaved submissives.

[donnay]

Yeah, it's for the children, so they'll grow up into well-behaved submissives.

They try to get them from cradle to grave. So sad.

[Carson]

Wait till the subject comes up of sharing the work.



My Mom used to say that the thing that gets socialism is that if everyone gets an equal share; why work?

Or maybe it was why work hard? Been a long time. Anyway I've heard laziness plagued James Town. Well until they split off some of the land and let people keep what they earned.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

And it amazes me how you're the "selfish one" or the "self-centered one" when you reject the system of theft, whether it is "sharing" or "taxes" somehow wanting your own things and control of them makes you the bad guy.

Boy you've said it all right there. These share people will actually turn the entire concept of sharing on it's head. They'll tell you that you're not sharing and caring enough, so they will force you to be this way by strong arming.

[PierzStyx]

Wait till the subject comes up of sharing the work.



My Mom used to say that the thing that gets socialism is that if everyone gets an equal share; why work?

Or maybe it was why work hard? Been a long time. Anyway I've heard laziness plagued James Town. Well until they split off some of the land and let people keep what they earned.

Both of those are true. Why work if you're getting some anyway? Why work hard if you're only getting the same amount as the most lazy person there?

And I think you mean Plymouth colony. Jamestown was a capital making venture but Plymouth Colony was founded by the Puritans who lived a very communal life.

[Brian4Liberty]

You wouldn't cut in front of someone in the grocery checkout line just because you didn't feel like waiting.

There is another thread on this subject. Just yesterday there was an incident where a couple and then another person cut in line. The ones who cut in line were from more "socialist" cultures. One American guy gave an Asian woman a real tongue lashing over it, she ignored him, and kept talking on her cell phone after she cut in line. (I believe she was speaking Korean). Cultural differences can lead to misunderstandings. Many cultures place a very low value or emphasis on consideration for others. Cutting in line is a prime example. Blocking, bumping and crowding people in stores are also common.

Other thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...s-Are-Cheaters

[presence]

but let's teach our kids how to cope with disappointment, because it happens

great advice +1