Originally Posted by
kcchiefs6465
First, thank you for posting. As to the quoted section here, yes, that would be exactly what I am saying. Indisputably so.
Where is their money derived from? How is their salary afforded? Who is going to pay their medical? Their pensions? For the air conditioning they use in the summertime? For the petrol they use in their cars?
It's quite simple. You will. Everyone will. Whether they want to pay for it or not, they will pay for it. Do you know why? Because other people that will be paid for by everyone, regardless of the legitimacy, will come arrest, imprison, or murder you. It's quite simple, really. And if the need arises for back up in the midnight raid, they'll call those that never let them down. A quid pro quo relationship, if you will, where the parasitical unproductive collaborate with the equally parasitical and unproductive to rob all of property and give it to whom it does not belong.
Well then quite perhaps the tired good apples mantra would finally cease. But no, it wouldn't. There would still be some who see the kitty cats saved from the trees; the puppy dogs from the road ways. And while if the "good ones" did quit or chose a path more moral (say, anything productive) the level of "bad" within the department may become more centralized, (or more noticeable, rather,) there'd still be the few and far between good deeds that anyone as a human being is capable of, mind you, to distract the masses from the evil they commit. There would still be the many who tell me, ad nauseam, that I just don't know what they encounter. That I should put myself in their shoes. That they do good things but are forced, or ordered, I think they say, and that I should take my grievances up with the equally immoral politicians. As if that would do a lick of goddamn good. How about, no. You quit following orders. It isn't an excuse. It never was an excuse. Go volunteer if you want to help the public when they are in need. Have people legitimately contract your services. Act within the law as an common decent human being, for $#@! sake. But this just sounds radical, I'll be told. "You mean separate castes-- the takers and the taken from-- ought not exist!? Blasphemy!"
It would more be accurate to say that I'd, and quite a few others, simply would like everyone to be held accountable under the same law. A shiny badge doesn't grant extra rights. And Constitutional minded is quite funny [if weren't so unfunny] (perhaps that's why they are just [Constitutionally] "minded" and not simply "Constitutional"?). Something to think about, anyways. What is definition of police? What is the history of the police? What is their current track record? What has the Supreme Court said on the matter of liability? How are they funded? What if I don't want to fund them? What sorts of 'laws' are they enforcing?
Well, I would disagree with your premise. Do you need to be policed? Fined? Taxed? Robbed? Thrown in a cage? What need might I have for them? You know their pensions are probably going to bankrupt your city, right?
We can agree on everything except for the point that the police is an authoritarian concept and ought be abolished. Perhaps you are unsure what that means. It doesn't mean a lack of law or criminals running rampant in the streets (they do that now, mind you [and to be clear, some are held more accountable than others]). I pray to God that some fiscal calamity disbands this band of revenue scalpers. It sounds bad... and forgive me for being frank... but I'd be happier than pigs in $#@! if this police force went on strike for further medical compensation. It would be like..... America. Or something. Rather than some sort of unfunny East German satire.
Yes, I do. I need a bracelet that forbids them from touching me in the event of emergency. Car wreck? They can leave my mangled body where they find it. I've told them this. We can be cordial, if they come in my place of occupation but aside from that they can $#@! off.
I would administer first aid and call for an ambulance. Not 911.
I would not. An intermediary or the family asked me for a notarized statement with the understanding that I will not be testifying? THEY could get one. What they did with it would be their business.
And it's not as if you don't talk to the police. I'm quite capable of holding a conversation. Considering their profession, lack of ethics, quotas, etc. it's wise not to talk to them. Not to mention they murder people daily (often for the refusal to talk to them). So kind of a catch 22, I suppose. I'd much prefer not to ever talk to them. But it isn't as if when I get pulled over I sit there and say, "I refuse to answer any questions" (as would be my right!). I've dealt with them enough and am educated enough to talk with them. As well as to know that a certain demeanor could well leave me beaten to death on the side of the road. You know they itch for that $#@!, right? Put on their gloves. I can see it in their face when they are just looking for a reason. These are the people you want to have a gun and immunity?
It ain't gonna happen this century. You ever tell a cop you know your rights? Haha. It's not like $#@!in' crosses to vampires. Only, if only, Kelly Thomas had a pocket Constitution!
And I'm not trying to be discouraging but goddamn, this is serious. Don't insult people with that nonsense. What do you think, crack smoking addicts ought be given an annual salary? Never mind you don't want to pay for it. So what makes you think it is legitimate that I be forced to pay for these other lowlife, subsidized, leeches?
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Instead of trying to increase the number of good (constitutional minded) cops you guys want to make sure every cop is bad. Good luck with that. 
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