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    Poll showing Romney beating Paul in NH was rigged

    Poll showing Romney beating Paul in NH was rigged

    A recent poll in New Hampshire said that if Mitt Romney got into the 2016 presidential race, he would beat Rand Paul by a margin of 39%-7%.

    This poll was seized upon by Paul family detractor Dave Weigel of Slate. A link to the poll can be found in the article by Weigel below:

    Why Rand Paul Is Not the “2016 GOP Front-Runner,” in One Chart
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20...one_chart.html

    However, Ben Swann's website reports that the poll question producing this improbable result was biased. See here:

    Eric Levenson also pointed out the fact that the University of New Hampshire poll’s question may have caused a bias among participants, “The particular phrasing of the question posed to responders also likely had an impact on Romney’s big advantage. The pollers first asked a bevy of questions and opinions about the expected Republican contestants, including Christie, Ryan, Paul, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, and others. The poller then asked a follow-up question: ‘If Mitt Romney were to run for the Republican nomination…’ followed by a list of all those same potential candidates. Specifically calling out Romney before mentioning the other names may have had the effect of highlighting him above others and influencing the response.”
    http://benswann.com/mainstream-media...l-frontrunner/

    Romney may well be leading Rand right now in NH, but not by such a large margin. To the extent Romney is leading is mostly due to a big advantage in name recognition and that NH is a border state to Romney's hone state of Massachusetts.

    In a real election, a race between Rand and Romney in NH would be competitive.

    UPDATE:

    In the 2012 NH primary, Romney finished with 39%, Ron Paul with 23%.
    Last edited by Galileo Galilei; 07-22-2014 at 10:03 AM. Reason: new info
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galileo Galilei View Post
    Poll showing Romney beating Paul in NH was rigged

    A recent poll in New Hampshire said that if Mitt Romney got into the 2016 presidential race, he would beat Rand Paul by a margin of 39%-7%.

    This poll was seized upon by Paul family detractor Dave Weigel of Slate. A link to the poll can be found in the article by Weigel below:

    Why Rand Paul Is Not the “2016 GOP Front-Runner,” in One Chart
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20...one_chart.html

    However, Ben Swann's website reports that the poll question producing this improbable result was biased. See here:



    http://benswann.com/mainstream-media...l-frontrunner/

    Romney may well be leading Rand right now in NH, but not by such a large margin. To the extent Romney is leading is mostly due to a big advantage in name recognition and that NH is a border state to Romney's hone state of Massachusetts.

    In a real election, a race between Rand and Romney in NH would be competitive.
    Is this talk of a Romney run actually possible? It's been coming up a lot in the news, but it's completely unprecedented for a presidential nominee who was trounced to run again for office, especially a 3rd run. Nixon did it as a young promising pol, and others like Reagan were successful, but he didn't win the nomination the first time. Seems way different for a veteran career politician deciding to give it a go again after an outcome like 2012. It would be like Bob Dole running again in 2000, or John Kerry in 2008.

    Though I guess Romney is so opportunistic that he would do it if his delusional inner circle made him feel like he had a shot of beating Hilary.
    Last edited by ronaldo23; 07-21-2014 at 02:33 PM.

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    It's absurd that Romney would lead Rand Paul by a wider margin than he beat Ron Paul by in the 2012 primary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rp08orbust View Post
    It's absurd that Romney would lead Rand Paul by a wider margin than he beat Ron Paul by in the 2012 primary.
    Not really that absurd considering there is a larger and different pool of candidates being polled here, but still unlikely that it would be by this much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rp08orbust View Post
    It's absurd that Romney would lead Rand Paul by a wider margin than he beat Ron Paul by in the 2012 primary.
    Romney got 39%, Ron got 23% in 2012.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo23 View Post
    Is this talk of a Romney run actually possible? It's been coming up a lot in the news, but it's completely unprecedented for a presidential nominee who was trounced to run again for office, especially a 3rd run. Nixon did it as a young promising pol, and others like Reagan were successful, but he didn't win the nomination the first time. Seems way different for a veteran career politician deciding to give it a go again after an outcome like 2012. It would be like Bob Dole running again in 2000, or John Kerry in 2008.

    Though I guess Romney is so opportunistic that he would do it if his delusional inner circle made him feel like he had a shot of beating Hilary.
    Yes, Romney will be running after Bush and Christie announce they won't run. The GOP nomination will come down to Rand and Rom.
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    Romney is not running again lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard101 View Post
    Romney is not running again lmfao
    Actually, Romney will be running again. Christie and Bush can't beat Rand and Romney would have a better chance.
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    The most recent poll in both NH and IA show Rand Paul leading the field. Yes, Rand Paul is leading in NH. Rand Paul is also leading in IA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith and stuff View Post
    The most recent poll in both NH and IA show Rand Paul leading the field. Yes, Rand Paul is leading in NH. Rand Paul is also leading in IA.
    Him and his wife already said they are not running. He has made no indication that he is running. The establishment is focused on Bush. That's what the GOP has been talking about at least in Texas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galileo Galilei View Post
    Yes, Romney will be running after Bush and Christie announce they won't run. The GOP nomination will come down to Rand and Rom.
    Quote Originally Posted by Galileo Galilei View Post
    Actually, Romney will be running again.
    I heard that James Madison was running.

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    What those numbers really say is that 61% would not support Romney if he entered the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard101 View Post
    Him and his wife already said they are not running. He has made no indication that he is running. The establishment is focused on Bush. That's what the GOP has been talking about at least in Texas
    I also think the poll was rigged and that Romney will not enter the race. I'm glad that Rand Paul is doing so well this early out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    I heard that James Madison was running.
    Rand Paul likes to quote James Madison.
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    According to Gordon Duff, Ron Paul won the GOP nomination. Just remember to use paper ballots in the future.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ctiger2 View Post
    According to Gordon Duff, Ron Paul won the GOP nomination. Just remember to use paper ballots in the future.
    Gordon Duff is a MOSSAD agent:
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    Romney made a deal with the Pauls in 2012. Ron played nice and Rand endorsed in exchange for access to his donor base in 2016.
    I don't think he will run, but if he does it could make some people angry.
    The Koch brothers were all in for Romney. I wonder if they brokered the deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by limequat View Post
    Romney made a deal with the Pauls in 2012. Ron played nice and Rand endorsed in exchange for access to his donor base in 2016.
    I don't think he will run, but if he does it could make some people angry.
    The Koch brothers were all in for Romney. I wonder if they brokered the deal.
    This would imply Romney knew he was going to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    This would imply Romney knew he was going to lose.
    That might actually confirm that he is smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limequat View Post
    Romney made a deal with the Pauls in 2012. Ron played nice and Rand endorsed in exchange for access to his donor base in 2016.
    lolwut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    lolwut?
    Cereal: http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2014/...-libertarians/
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    Quote Originally Posted by limequat View Post
    It is true. Several potential Republican candidates spent time meeting with some of Romney's big campaign donors. The donors are feeling out the candidates. It's great that they agreed to meet with Paul, though as far as everyone knows, it was just a meeting. Was it more productive than the meeting the neocon candidates had with the donors? We don't know.
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