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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Agreed 100%.

    His ex-wife didn't help matters by being a class act all the way through the drama either. And Sanford still hasn't married his soul mate, which makes him look even sleazier.

    His personal life combined with his quirkiness makes him a presidential loser. That's the sad fact of electoral politics - it isn't just about the issues. Heck, it's not really about the issues much at all.
    Yeah, that's the thing about him. He's really odd. It's not that his adultery is on a worse level than someone else's. But the way it came out and the way he handled it made a big impression on people that will be hard to change.

    Newt's was probably worse. But by the time most people found out about it, it had already been years in the past. There was no public media circus surrounding it.



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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEsq View Post
    LePage has also vetoed drug reform bills and has been on the wrong side of many other issues.
    Details?

    Not to mention there's probably a majority of people in his own state who think he's crazy/a loose cannon.
    Yea, his favorable/unfavorable rating hovers around 40/60, but keep in mind it is a pretty solidly Blue State, and he's the first GOP governor in a long time. In other words, that so many Mainers dislike him might have little to do with him personally, and more to do with the fact that he's a conservative republican, all of whom they consider "crazy extremists" etc. I don't know, we'll see what happens this November.

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEsq View Post
    Yeah that's probably right. I can't really think of anyone else, though. I don't think Martinez would be enough on the same page with Paul politically to nominate either. Besides Haley I'm kinda blanking on a nominee who would meet all the points.
    Yea, I know, slim pickins. Among federal politicians, I like Mike Lee, but I really think it ought to be somebody with executive experience.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEsq View Post
    I'm assuming there's a basis for saying that? Has she had problematic interviews in the past?
    She's had a tendency to flip on taxation. I just don't think she's with us. She doesn't look anti-establishment imo



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    P.S. How about Maine Governor Paul Lepage? He has major executive experience in both business and government, he's one of us ideologically, he's a Republican governor in a State that usually goes Blue in Presidential elections, he's got an extremely compelling life story. He has made a few politically incorrect remarks, but nothing that's a deal breaker IMO.
    I was waiting to see if anyone else said it here first. My pick would also be Paul LePage, as I've said elsewhere. He would be an excellent ticket balancer for Rand:
    executive experience
    very good conservative record
    proven integrity
    would draw the support of "moderate" Republicans in the northeast
    outspoken on the issues

    No, he isn't perfect, and isn't a "pure" libertarian by any means. But he would be a ticket balancer, an excellent one, one that would be acceptable to the establishment while at the same time being acceptable from the perspective of his record. There could be a lot of potentially worse VP picks foisted upon Rand at the convention. If not as Rand's VP pick, I'd love to see LePage in DC as a Senator or in Congress when he's done being Governor.
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  8. #66
    I like Lepage. I'm glad he is my governor. That said he is a horrible VP choice. He is a loose cannon and has no filter. He is not ready for prime time. He would almost surely commit a huge gaffe that is seen as folksy here, but fails on a national stage.

    Maine is a 3 party state. That's the only reason he is governor. His GOP support base rock solid and unchanging. The democrats and independents hate him, but look to split the vote again and keep him in office.

  9. #67
    LePage has said some controversial things about Obama tbh

  10. #68
    Rand needs to choose a woman or a gay man.

  11. #69
    I am watching Ben Carson. Issues wise he isn't perfect but as a man I think he is great. I am not looking at him even as a minority but it helps. Two doctors against the Washington lawyers. Unlike Obama he actually came from poverty and gave valuable work to the country and thousands of lives. Carson could do heavy campaigning in black America and inspire.

    If you get a chance watch this movie.

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  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Galileo Galilei View Post
    No, Sanford is a bad choice.
    How about Scott Walker? What would you think of that?

  13. #71
    Sanford is a great politician, but would be a poor VP choice. You don't want a VP who is a distraction, and Sanford's colorful past would make for endless fodder for the media. He'd also blur the contrasting Paul's rock solid marriage with whatever it is Bill and Hillary have together. Sanford would be a great Speaker, or Senator, or maybe even a great Presidential candidate in his own right someday, but he'd be a lousy VP choice.

    VP should be boring and dependable. Mike Lee type except not the actual Mike Lee because we don't have enough good guys in the Senate to afford to lose two at once to the Executive Branch. Maybe Raul Labrador. In fact, if I were betting that's who I'd bet he picks.

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    How about Scott Walker? What would you think of that?
    Walker's got criminal allegations lunged his way...BAD idea.
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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoPaul View Post
    Walker's got criminal allegations lunged his way...BAD idea.
    Plus he dropped out of college under dubious circumstances. And oh yeah, he's a neocon.

  17. #74
    I think Rand should come out and say straight away Ayotte is not fit for VP (for anyone) just to throw a punch. Ayotte is a neocon and is hated because of amnesty. Rand is never going to pick a tall female neocon anyway. I think this is one area where Rand can shed himself from any pandering tag. I can see Rand more than the others picking a 50 or 60 year old capable generic man as his VP. I think Rand would actually be less likely to go with some token pick compared to any of the other candidates.
    I think he should maybe look at Scott Brown if Brown can be less interventionist.

    This is "RINO" Scott Brown's immigration advisor Howie Carr.



    Sanford has town halls in Spanish. I dont think Rand should go into the south and start courting every open borders person he can find. Amnesty is hated in the south and Jack Kingston, Cantor, AL06 candidates and Haley Barbour's brother can attest to how popular it is.

    He should stick to patriots like Walter Jones (NC) and Ted Yoho(northern FL).

    Only Tim Scott, Jeff Duncan and Joe Wilson in SC are not bought by the open borders logic.




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    BOWLING GREEN, Kentucky – Washington liberals are trying to push through the so-called DREAM Act, which creates an official path to Democrat voter registration for 2 million college-age illegal immigrants.
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  19. #76
    So we really don't have a legit VP candidate....wow

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoPaul View Post
    NO. Two Southern white men would only stoke the Democratic flames.
    Yup. There is a double standard. This would be a decent strategy for Democrats. Heck, at least it was twice recently. For Republicans? Not a good idea! Remember, at least 3/4s of the MSM rates typical Republicans.
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  21. #78
    In Walker's defense, WI is 1 of the most statist states and has been for many years. If you support liberty there, you are traditionally the enemy of almost all of the people there. If he wants to stay elected, he has no other option but to take baby steps.
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  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard101 View Post
    So we really don't have a legit VP candidate....wow
    Pretty much, yes.
    If I had to pick out of the current potential 2016 contenders right now, I would probably go with Walker or Jindal.
    There is plenty of time though. If Rand gets the nomination I think he will make a good choice. I wonder if Rand is even thinking that far ahead at this point
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  23. #80
    Doubt he's thinking that far ahead.



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard101 View Post
    Sanford was a great governor. Most of us here like him already. Yeah ik about the affair but meh.
    no. Paul/Noem

  26. #82
    Carson would be a decent VP pick but he has no experience. I think people generally like him because he is a likable person. He has a lot of love and care in his heart regardless of his views which might make people overlook his views. My ideal choice would still be Paul/Sanford, but I'm good on Paul/Lepage or Paul/Haley for now

  27. #83
    I want Paul/Baldwin, but that won't happen, neither will most of those suggested here. Obviously, there can be only one
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  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by LogCabinGOProud View Post
    Rand needs to choose a woman or a gay man.
    Gay woman might be a great choice.

  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    How about Scott Walker? What would you think of that?

  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    I want Paul/Baldwin, but that won't happen, neither will most of those suggested here. Obviously, there can be only one
    I will simply be happy if Pat Buchanan is secretary of state.
    Last edited by anaconda; 07-24-2014 at 08:36 PM.

  31. #87
    I personally like Sanford, but if Paul is smart; it will be Paul/Carson 2016 .. The two are brilliant men, untainted, salt and pepper ... honest. That would be the dream ticket I would put up.
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  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    I personally like Sanford, but if Paul is smart; it will be Paul/Carson 2016 .. The two are brilliant men, untainted, salt and pepper ... honest. That would be the dream ticket I would put up.
    Ben Carson is a good person, but I really would not be comfortable with Carson as VP, nor do I think he would be up for the political pressure. He was already an extremely accomplished individual, but his popularity skyrocketed so dramatically among conservatives because of that National Prayer Breakfast at least in part because of a racial undertone in people seeing him as a smart black person who stuck it to Obama or embarrassed him on national TV. This reaction was not exactly his fault, but it is counter-productive and would not help in a presidential campaign.

    If anything, Carson would be most suited to an appointed position like Surgeon General or Secretary of HHS.
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  34. #89
    Exactly. The Democrats would paint Carson as a token.
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  35. #90
    From this thread, I like Ms. Martinez the best. I could also see the rationale in Rand looking for a more elderly, respected statesman, though, to balance the ticket. Bringing back Coburn as a running mate would thrill me to no end.

    As much as I'd love him to pick his dad, it won't happen, and probably shouldn't. sucks, though.

    Does anyone know if a nominee has chosen a running mate from across the aisle? Mindblowing to consider, but hey, since we're brainstorming, wonder what would happen if Rand picked a moderate or blue dog Democrat? No one in mind, really, just a crazy thought.
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