Originally Posted by devil21
It has been reported that the debris covers at least 4 miles. Do you know the target of missiles against a large target?
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Sanctions- act of war
Shooting down a passenger airplane with 250+ innocent civilians- not an act of war
Look at the sky in the explosion video being replaying over and over on CNN. There's not a single sign of anything having happened in the air, especially not a missile hitting a passenger jet. I don't care what was "reported" (seeing how it's abundantly clear by now that the MSM is bought off top to bottom and can't be believed about anything). The video itself shows something exploding on the ground and that's it. No sign of a trail of a descending plane.
It has been reported that the debris covers at least 4 miles. Do you know the target of missiles against a large target?
I tend to not believe anything the CIA...errr MSM reports, sorry. Show me proof of a plane being shot down by anyone.
Last edited by devil21; 07-17-2014 at 04:52 PM.
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Were you there, or did the idiot box tell you what happened and what to think about it? I bet I know the answer.
That was the point of my question. Modern day missiles detonate at different times and points depending on their targeting.
If it is a large "transport type" target, it goes for the cockpit, as taking out an engine may not disable an aircraft.
Fighter pilots are trained to shoot at the cockpit for large aircraft.
In other words, there may not be any fire ball of an aircraft shot down.
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Lol at the armchair analysis taking place.
Of course it's an act of war...it was shot down over a war zone. Why in the hell would Malaysian Airlines fly a commercial plane over a warzone that had several fighter jets shot down the same week and a bombing campaign over the same area a week previous??
It is always that way dumbass. It is called analysis from the data received. However limited that may be.
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Commercial airlines fly over hostile airspace all the time.
US carriers not so much because we would probably be targeted.
As an example, after 9/11, US carriers stopped flying over Iran and Pakistan. European carriers continued to fly there, to this day.
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Plenty of airliners fly over that zone (not after this obviously). Nice try though.
What are you an aviation expert or something?
Maybe but the narrative now is that the plane broke up in the air after being hit by a missile. There's no sign of anything having happened in the air and the video is obviously edited to not show anything BEFORE the explosion, like a plane heading into the ground. If anyone has a link to full video showing what happened before the explosion then I'd like to see. I suspect there is no such video though.
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America kills a single civilian in a warzone - Obama is a war criminal
Civilian aircraft shot down in a warzone - Oh hey, $#@!, it's a war zone, what are you going to do?
I won't even make the obvious Israel / Gaza comparisons.
What do you mean nice try? What am i "trying" to do? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to decide to take a route that doesn't go through a zone where planes had been shot down that same week. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...DB_79M.twitter
Malaysian Airlines apparently wanted to skimp on fuel.
Didn't take long for a blithering idiot to pop up.
An aircraft can break up and not make a fire ball.
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Holy christ on a cracker, you really can't comprehend the difference here?
It also doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a large aircraft at 35,000 feet on the eastern edge of Ukraine is clearly not a military target.
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Now that America's foremost expert in mid-air plane explosions caused by missiles has chimed in, I feel confident in saying this was a plot by the illuminati to exterminate the human population. And plus, the plane was carrying chemtrails.
Why?
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Hey, if it is on beforeitsnews, I'll believe it.
The following video report is supposedly from the ground in the Ukraine.
We translated this video to the best our ability, though please note that due to sound quality, it may not be exact:
“What’s going on?"
"It’s a plane. Look!"
"It means the pilot died."
"Yes."
"The plane!"
Someone asks, “Why is everyone so excited?”
Another voice explains, "At first it was flying. It was coming from this side. It was flying, flying."
A third says, “It’s in a couple pieces. That’s what it seems like.”
...
More:
http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/0...border/374616/
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Can it also not leave a single trace in the sky that a HUGE jetliner just broke up and crashed to earth? The sky is clear as a bell. No smoke, no debris trail, nothing. Why anyone still insists on believing anything the media and gov't claims is beyond me but believe what you wish.
I figured it was time for the shill and trolls to start showing up in force once the official narrative starts to be questioned. Like clockwork.
Last edited by devil21; 07-17-2014 at 05:25 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
What military mission is the Ukrainian air force executing against the rebels with an aircraft the size of a 777 flying at 35,000 feet, 50 miles away from the Russian border, and headed southeast?
This is unconfirmed but I read somewhere that a Russian rebel had posted on facebook that they had just shot down a "transport" right before the news broke. Maybe they thought it was that. I'm OF COURSE not trying to justify these actions, whoever did it, I'm just pointing out that Malaysian Airlines is run by some really $#@!ing stupid people
Some reports have them thinking is was Putin's aircraft.
But bombers, reconnaissance and military refueling aircraft fly at that altitude and airspeed.
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Lusitania 2.0
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Which airframe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Air_Force
Actually, if a plane really did get shot down (obviously I've seen no convincing evidence of that yet) then I was thinking a mix of Lusitania and Archduke Ferdinand with the Putin assassination angle.
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"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
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