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    Meet the Americans the NSA and FBI are spying on

    Hope I'm not late on this.

    Meet the Americans the NSA and FBI are spying on
    By Megan Stiles on July 9, 2014 in Civil Liberties, National Blog

    Glenn Greenwald published his much anticipated article naming Americans the NSA and FBI are spying on last night. The list includes Muslim Americans involved in politics, government, law, and education. From The Intercept:

    The National Security Agency and FBI have covertly monitored the emails of prominent Muslim-Americans—including a political candidate and several civil rights activists, academics, and lawyers—under secretive procedures intended to target terrorists and foreign spies.

    According to documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, the list of Americans monitored by their own government includes:

    • Faisal Gill, a longtime Republican Party operative and one-time candidate for public office who held a top-secret security clearance and served in the Department of Homeland Security under President George W. Bush;

    • Asim Ghafoor, a prominent attorney who has represented clients in terrorism-related cases;

    • Hooshang Amirahmadi, an Iranian-American professor of international relations at Rutgers University;

    • Agha Saeed, a former political science professor at California State University who champions Muslim civil liberties and Palestinian rights;

    • Nihad Awad, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the largest Muslim civil rights organization in the country.

    Today in a Reddit AMA, Greeenwald said, in response to a question on whether there were other groups who were targeted by the NSA, that he couldn’t discuss it a the moment, “but there are more stories coming.”

    The entire article is worth the lengthy read, but what I found to be the most heartbreaking line came from Faisal Gill, who was spied on by the NSA, even though he had a top security clearance, while he was running for public office.

    Even a U.S. citizen like Faisal Gill, who served his country both in the armed forces and in the White House, found himself spied on by his own government. “I was a very conservative, Reagan-loving Republican,” he says. “If somebody like me could be surveilled, then [there are] other people out there I can only imagine who are under surveillance.

    “I went to school here as a fourth grader – learned about the Revolutionary War, learned about individual rights, Thomas Jefferson, all these things,” he continues. “That is ingrained in you – your privacy is important. And to have that basically invaded for no reason whatsoever – for the fact that I didn’t do anything – I think that’s troubling. And I think that certainly goes to show how we need to shape policy differently than it is right now.”

    Call your representative and senators and demand they repeal the so-called ‘Patriot’ Act and the FISA Amendments Act of 2008. 202-224-3121

    http://www.campaignforliberty.org/na...sa-fbi-spying/



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    umm, yeah... he was hyping HUGE lists before. I think it was some ACLU guy that said thousands of US Muslims were being spied on. There were hints dropped that the list included press, elected officials, judges, etc. and he releases FIVE NAMES! WTF!!!

    The spreadsheet shows 7,485 email addresses listed as monitored between 2002 and 2008. Many of the email addresses on the list appear to belong to foreigners whom the government believes are linked to Al Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah. Among the Americans on the list are individuals long accused of terrorist activity, including Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan, who were killed in a 2011 drone strike in Yemen.

    But a three-month investigation by The Intercept—including interviews with more than a dozen current and former federal law enforcement officials involved in the FISA process—reveals that in practice, the system for authorizing NSA surveillance affords the government wide latitude in spying on U.S. citizens.
    ...
    The vast majority of individuals on the “FISA recap” spreadsheet are not named. Instead, only their email addresses are listed, making it impossible in most cases to ascertain their identities. Under the heading “Nationality,” the list designates 202 email addresses as belonging to “U.S. persons,” 1,782 as belonging to “non-U.S. persons,” and 5,501 as “unknown” or simply blank. The Intercept identified the five Americans placed under surveillance from their email addresses.
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    Last edited by tangent4ronpaul; 07-09-2014 at 10:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    umm, yeah... he was hyping HUGE lists before. I think it was some ACLU guy that said thousands of US Muslims were being spied on. There were hints dropped that the list included press, elected officials, judges, etc. and he releases FIVE NAMES! WTF!!!



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    Greenwald obtained the consent of all five before publishing their names, he told HuffPost.
    that's why. In other threads, you would see, it could hurt your career to be found on the NSA watchlist.
    His Name was Seth Rich.

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    This is turning into some kind of liberal $#@! show...
    Donald Trump > SJW ass-tears

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    Bit surprised notorious Andrew Adler's name is not on the list?




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    • Agha Saeed, a former political science professor at California State University who champions Muslim civil liberties and Palestinian rights ..

    One interesting pattern here, people being snooped on by Obama administration seem pro Palestinians/have Muslim/Arab sounding names/CAIR officials. Not a single pro Israeli on the list.

    This appears to be in sharp contrast to people being snooped on by Bush administration ; targets included pro Israelis , had Jewish sounding names/AIPAC officials.

    FBI steps up AIPAC espionage probe
    Dec 16, 2004 - The FBI raided AIPAC's offices in early December. ... investigations began when the FBI discovered “new, 'massive' Israeli spying operations in ... affair” revealed the “escalating fight over Iran policy” in the Bush administration.

    AIPAC/Likudnik Larry Franklin Arrested for Espionage on Behalf of ...
    Nor does it explain the FBI raids on AIPAC's Capitol Hill headquarters, from which ... If President Bush really wants to resolve the Arab-Israeli problem, he cannot ...

    Major scandal erupts involving Rep. Jane Harman, Alberto ...
    www.salon.com/2009/04/20/harman/Salon
    Apr 20, 2009 - Jane Harman , the California Democrat with a longtime involvement in intelligence issues, was overheard on an NSA wiretap telling a suspected Israeli agent ... Back in October, 2006, Time reported that the DOJ and FBI were ...



    Obama apparently quietly dropped Bush administration's prosecution of AIPAC espionage case soon after getting in the White House:

    Case against AIPAC lobbyists dropped - Washington Times
    May 2, 2009 - The Justice Department Friday ended the high-profile prosecution of two former pro-Israel ... Case against AIPAC lobbyists dropped ... Mr. Netanyahu's delegation when the Israeli prime minister meets with President Obama.

    NEWS: FBI 'infuriated' at DoJ dropping AIPAC case
    May 2, 2009 - The top official at the FBI's Washington office said he was ... case against two former lobbyists for a pro-Israel advocacy group, ... to criminalize the exchange of sensitive information among journalists, lobbyists, and policy analysts. ... to light in 2004 when FBI agents raided AIPAC offices, appeared to be ...




    Why Obama and Bush snooping in seperate directions in the US?



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