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    JaylieWow, May I Shake Your Hand?

    So I was skimming ye ol' favorite online "liberal" rag when I came across an excellent post in defense of the good dr. I was reading along and thought, "wow, this individual has got it down." Once done reading, I checked to see what the poster's name was and what do you know? the forums very own JaylieWow nailed it!

    Rock on!

    RE: Why I Would Never Support Ron Paul

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    Posted by: JaylieWoW on Nov 30, 2007 8:57 AM
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    Suz,

    Your claim that Ron Paul is "anti-choice" is false and misunderstood. Ron Paul is "pro-life". These two terms do not mean the same thing at all.

    Anti-choice means forced submission. Ron Paul is personally pro-life but realizes and supports others views even when those views don't match his own. He supports freedom of choice. Ironic isn't it?

    Ron Paul wants to remove abortion from federal control. Anyone who is pro-choice should listen wisely to his council on this because with the current administration American's have experienced significant loss of individual liberty.

    My actual point is to ask you to consider what could happen if someone rabidly anti- choice came into power. With the advent of line-item veto, executive orders and presidential signing statements, a single individual with that much power at the federal level could wipe out your coveted right to choose.

    Wouldn't it be better to handle abortion at the local/state level? You could reach considerable compromise and protection if this were the case.

    I am neither pro-choice nor pro-life, but I recognize not all individuals have religious beliefs and do not believe life begins at conception. At the same time I also recognize the reverse is true. It is never peaceful nor protective of an individual's right to choose by forcing all of differing beliefs to accept a position. The danger is that someday that minority can and often does come into power.

    Frankly, the assault on individual liberties is a far more concerning issue which could easily infringe on the right to be either pro-choice or pro-life.

    As to universal health care consider these thoughts. I hope you will do more research into the matter.

    A theory suggests that the reason medical expenses rise rather than fall is because of government intervention into the health market and over regulation. As someone who chose medicine as his career, I believe Ron Paul has considerable more experience in this area than any of the other candidates running for office. Sadly, the media are too busy attacking his position on Iraq to pay attention to his positions on health care.

    In recent years, we have seen significant advances in technology. As a result, prices on many consumer goods have become more and more affordable. The medical industry has benefited from these advances as well. Why then, if prices in all other consumer markets are falling, is it that medical costs continue to rise?

    Consider Lasik Eye Surgery. Just a few years ago this procedure was limited to those of means. This procedure is rarely, if ever, covered by medical insurance. However, though Lasik is a pure out of pocket expense, the price for the procedure has dramatically declined. Why is that? Shouldn't we also be seeing a decline throughout the medical industry on many other procedures?

    I know it is tempting to want to use government to solve all our problems, but this is a very dangerous road to tread. Look to our "ghettos" for proof of what dependency creates.

    ...we never can annihilate a penalty. We can only divert it from the head of the man who has incurred it to the heads of others who have not incurred it. A vast amount of "social reform" consists in just this operation. The consequence is that those who have gone astray, being relieved from Nature's fierce discipline, go on to worse, and that there is a constantly heavier burden for the others to bear. ~William Graham Sumner

    Respectfully submitted for your consideration.
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    Excellent points.
    "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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    Very well put!
    "Masterful and arrogant wealth, created largely by Government protection of its profits, not content with its domination and influence within a single party, had sought to corrupt them both, and to that end had insinuated itself into the primaries, in order that no candidates might be nominated whose views were not in accord with theirs." (‘Colonel’ Edward Mandell House in 'Philip Dru: Administrator', circa 1912)

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    She is also extremely hot!

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    checklist
    Are you registered?
    Are you a delegate?
    Have you applied to be a Poll Worker and/or Vote Count Watcher?
    Do you know your polling place?
    Have you recruited other supporters to become delegates?
    Have you circulated a petition?
    Have you verified (from the horse’s mouth) that Ron Paul will be on your state’s ballot?
    Do you attend GOP meetings (township - county – state)?
    Have you canvassed collecting names and phone numbers and sent it to HQ?
    Have you promoted Ron Paul to Christian media and ProLife groups?
    Do you ask your local television stations to profile/interview Ron Paul?
    Do you write letters to you local newspapers?
    Have you promoted Ron Paul at gunshows, anti-war rallies, prolife meetings, etc?
    Have you passed out registration forms to young supporters?
    Do you call talk radio shows and pitch Ron Paul?
    Do you have the names, addresses, and phone numbers of your meetup members to be ready to mobilize when needed?
    Have you hit the streets passing out DVDs/literature?
    Have you sent letters to celebrities asking for an endorsement?
    Have you attempted to get your local public access channel to play Ron Paul videos such as his previous interviews in public access shows?
    Is your meetup inactive? Then do canvassing/lit drops by yourself.
    Have you requested “street lists” of registered voters?

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    spam it somewhere else newmedia, quit being such a fascist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by constituent View Post
    spam it somewhere else newmedia, quit being such a fascist.
    Yeah ..he spends ALL his time projecting..LOL.. what a maroon.

    Best
    Randy

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    Actually, thank you newsmedia for the reminder.



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    Quote Originally Posted by disciple View Post
    Actually, thank you newsmedia for the reminder.
    Make a sticky for your TV set and a magnet note for your fridge too if it is that simple to forget that you need a thread derailment to remind you. It is lousy net etiquette but spamboy doesn't care. It contributes little but anomisity. Constituent was speaking kindly of another forum members writing he came across somewhere else and then this redundant drooling occurred..yet again.. it is tiresome..

    HTH
    Randy

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    Wow, that's is a great piece of writing on the issue. Frame it up!
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    OMG wow! I never even saw this thread. But then again, activity being what it was in the past it's no wonder. Probably moved to a second page very quickly.

    I would be quite proud to shake your hand and thanks a million for the kudos (as well as the consideration for the "hotties" list )

    I ran across this looking for various stuff I'd written. I'm thinking about compiling some stuff into a book. I'm also looking at writing a fictional book (set in a fantasy/magic based world) with some RP ideas/lessons intertwined. Call me crazy, I <3 to write!

    Thanks again guys!
    We have two major parties [in America], the stupid party and the evil party. Every once in a while they manage to work together and we call it "bipartisanship".
    ~Thomas Woods, Rally for the Republic

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    Old bump.

    But I'm glad you educated a few liberals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hook View Post
    She is also extremely hot!
    Grow up.



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