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    Exclamation Costco asks shoppers, 'Should water be fluoridated?' Vote here!

    Costco asks shoppers, 'Should water be fluoridated?' Vote here!

    Sunday, June 29, 2014 by: J. D. Heyes

    Membership-only warehouse club chain Costco is asking the general public a question: "Should our drinking water be fluoridated?" The company wants you to vote on that question, which you can do here.

    As part of the debate, Costco's publication, the Costco Connection, features opinions about the issue from both sides of the argument. Arguing in favor of fluoridation is Howard Pollick, a clinical professor of preventive and restorative dentistry and a member of the American Dental Association's National Fluoridation Advisory Committee. Taking the "no fluoride" side is Paul Connett, co-author of The Case Against Fluoride and the director of the Fluoride Action Network.

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    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    Great! Democracy at work. /sarc

    How about fluoride supplements so that individuals can make a choice on the fly.
    "When a portion of wealth is transferred from the person who owns it—without his consent and without compensation, and whether by force or by fraud—to anyone who does not own it, then I say that property is violated; that an act of plunder is committed." - Bastiat : The Law

    "nothing evil grows in alcohol" ~ @presence

    "I mean can you imagine what it would be like if firemen acted like police officers? They would only go into a burning house only if there's a 100% chance they won't get any burns. I mean, you've got to fully protect thy self first." ~ juleswin

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeCoulter View Post
    Great! Democracy at work. /sarc

    How about fluoride supplements so that individuals can make a choice on the fly.
    Just swallow that toothpaste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeCoulter View Post
    Great! Democracy at work. /sarc

    How about fluoride supplements so that individuals can make a choice on the fly.

    I am just glad this is being discussed openly.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to donnay again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeCoulter View Post
    How about fluoride supplements so that individuals can make a choice on the fly.
    Because fluoride supplement are usually high concentration and don't interact with the saliva of the mouth well, meaning less fluorapatite is formed per amount you consume; the supplement pills ARE a way taht has a high incidence rate of fluorosis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox McCloud View Post
    Because fluoride supplement are usually high concentration and don't interact with the saliva of the mouth well, meaning less fluorapatite is formed per amount you consume; the supplement pills ARE a way taht has a high incidence rate of fluorosis.
    Sound like a little creative thinking is in order. Better that, how ever hard it may be for some, than just plaster the crap so that it is hard to avoid for those that don't want it. Democratic means to an end are still crap.
    "When a portion of wealth is transferred from the person who owns it—without his consent and without compensation, and whether by force or by fraud—to anyone who does not own it, then I say that property is violated; that an act of plunder is committed." - Bastiat : The Law

    "nothing evil grows in alcohol" ~ @presence

    "I mean can you imagine what it would be like if firemen acted like police officers? They would only go into a burning house only if there's a 100% chance they won't get any burns. I mean, you've got to fully protect thy self first." ~ juleswin

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    ...so easily fooled.

    This survey is actually coming from the gov department of thought control in order to find out if they are already adding enough fluoride to the municipal water supply.

    With 96% saying, "HEY, STOP PUTTING THAT STUFF IN OUR WATER", they will just keep adding more and more 'till our eyes glaze over and people stop complaining about it!



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    Flashback:

    Study Links Fluoride to Bone Cancer in Men


    Published April 07, 2006
    WebMD

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    Published April 07, 2006
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    Boys who drink fluoridated water have an increased risk of a deadly bone cancer, a new study suggests.

    Elise Bassin, DDS, completed the study in 2001 for her doctoral dissertation at Harvard, where she now is clinical instructor in oral health policy and epidemiology. The study finally was published in the May issue of Cancer Causes and Control.

    Bassin and colleagues' major finding: Boys who grew up in communities that added at least moderate levels of fluoride to their water got bone cancer -- osteosarcoma -- more often than boys who drank water with little or no fluoride.

    The risk peaked for boys who drank more highly fluoridated water between the ages of 6 and 8 years -- a time at which children undergo a major growth spurt. By the time they were 20, these boys got bone cancer 5.46 times more often than boys with the lowest consumption. No effect was seen for girls.

    Unexpected Results

    In a prepared statement provided to WebMD, Bassin says she "was surprised by the results."

    "Having a background in dentistry and dental public health, [I] was taught that fluoride at recommended levels is safe and effective for the prevention of dental [cavities]," Bassin says in the statement. "All of [our analyses] were consistent in finding an association between fluoride levels in drinking water and an increased risk of osteosarcoma for males diagnosed before age 20, but not consistently for girls."

    It's not surprising that Bassin found a risk for boys but not for girls. Osteosarcoma is about 50% more common in males than in females. And boys tend to have more fluoride in their bones than girls.

    Caution About Study

    However, a commentary accompanying Bassin's article warns to take her findings with a grain of salt. Ironically, it is from Harvard professor Chester W. Douglass, DMD, PhD. Douglass led Bassin's PhD committee, which approved of the study when it was presented as her doctoral dissertation.

    Douglass warns that the Bassin study is based only on a subset of people exposed to fluoridated water. Preliminary results from the entire population of exposed individuals, Douglass writes, show no link between bone cancer and water fluoridation.

    But Bassin specifically looked at the subgroup of people most likely to be affected by fluoridation: children. She limited her analysis to people who got bone cancer by age 20. That's because most cases of osteosarcoma occur either during the teen years or after middle age.

    Fluoride collects in the bones. And it's particularly likely to accumulate in the bones during periods of rapid bone growth. So Bassin looked at fluoride exposures during childhood for 103 under-20 osteosarcoma patients and compared them with 215 matched people without bone cancer. Her study took into account how much fluoride was in the water in the communities where children actually lived and the history of municipal, well water, or bottled water use.

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    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Two out of the 3 breeders quoted in their article invoked the "for the children" clause in their reasoning FOR fluoride in the water. Disgusting.

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    this guy goes 2+ weeks in the summer in the US without drinking water, so I say fluoridate away! Who cares?!

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    I gone two weeks and probably close to your three without drinking water, and I'm still around.
    Only UN fascists think people need water to survive.

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    From the article:
    However, a commentary accompanying Bassin's article warns to take her findings with a grain of salt. Ironically, it is from Harvard professor Chester W. Douglass, DMD, PhD. Douglass led Bassin's PhD committee, which approved of the study when it was presented as her doctoral dissertation.

    Douglass warns that the Bassin study is based only on a subset of people exposed to fluoridated water. Preliminary results from the entire population of exposed individuals, Douglass writes, show no link between bone cancer and water fluoridation.
    It's not surprising that Bassin found a risk for boys but not for girls. Osteosarcoma is about 50% more common in males than in females.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    From the article:
    grain of salt? no pun intended?

    what's SALT??

    NaCl!!!!!!!!!!!!! how can we have that in our water???

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    this guy goes 2+ weeks in the summer in the US without drinking water, so I say fluoridate away! Who cares?!



    Only UN fascists think people need water to survive.
    Just drink beer, problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Just drink beer, problem solved.
    yeah, I'll shower in that too. Why didn't I think of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Just drink beer, problem solved.
    Fluoride is in beer too.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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