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  1. #31
    Waiting for a website to come out with concrete issue positions. I'm sure they will be pretty good, but he needs to put them down and get official for this race.
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  3. #32
    I hope this guy knocks Graham out of his seat.



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    Graham at 39% favorable...44% unfavorable.

    CHARLESTON, S.C. (WCIV) –

    ...the poll including Ravenel was conducted only days after he filed, so he’s not had much time to generate broad, state-wide support for his campaign. At this point, the former state treasurer-turned-reality show celebrity is pulling in 10 percent of the vote, primarily from the Upstate, 12 percent of voters there, and the Lowcountry, 10 percent of voters.

    “It remains to be seen whether Ravenel is a factor in this for the long haul,” Lee said.

    Ravenel responded to the poll’s results early Friday morning, quoting John Paul Jones in saying he was just starting his battle for the Senate seat.

    "I'm at ten percent and haven't spent a dime getting my message out. By contrast Lindsey Graham has spent $5 million getting his message out in the last few months and his approval rating is only 39 percent,” Ravenel said.

    “No one has ever seriously challenged him - he's never had to defend his votes for unnecessary wars, unnecessary government, anti-competitive tax hikes or liberal Supreme Court justices. I'm not only going to hold him accountable for those votes - I'm going to offer people a competing vision for the direction of this country.”

    Ravenel says he’s willing to spend “whatever it takes” to show South Carolina voters the difference between him and Graham.


    ...
    ...Graham’s approval rating is upside down, according to the poll.

    There’s a five-point split, 39-44, on Graham’s approval and a lot of people on the far right are still upset with the way Graham has voted, but he did well in the primary where he had to fend off a number of challengers.
    ...
    More:
    http://www.abcnews4.com/story/261065...in-senate-race
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by jurgs01 View Post
    Waiting for a website to come out with concrete issue positions. I'm sure they will be pretty good, but he needs to put them down and get official for this race.
    It's up:

    http://www.ravenelforsenate.com/
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyJones View Post
    subforum?
    Probably not worth the effort. Sometimes I get the feeling this is more of a PR thing for him.
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Probably not worth the effort. Sometimes I get the feeling this is more of a PR thing for him.
    not saying he is liberty or that he is gonna win, but anything that we can do to help take Graham out would be a good thing

  10. #38
    ought we to give him space here, anyway? perhaps?
    even if we run the risk of upsetting mitch mcconnell?

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    ought we to give him space here, anyway? perhaps?
    even if we run the risk of upsetting mitch mcconnell?
    we should, and I think even mcconnell would secretly be happy should graham lose

  12. #40
    Burger King...

    OBAMA/GRAHAM CORPORATE TAXES KILLING JOBS

    By Thomas Ravenel

    Burger King, Inc. is considering moving its headquarters to Canada to avoid paying Obama/Graham taxes of nearly 40% for corporations. How many more American jobs will be lost due to an economic environment that is hostile to free enterprise and job creation? President Obama and Senator Lindsey Graham have been working hand-in-hand to kill jobs for the last six years through government overregulation and burdensome taxes.

    It is time to send someone to Washington who believes in free enterprise and getting the federal government off the backs and out of the pockets of job creators. As an independent conservative candidate for U.S. Senate, I believe South Carolina deserves better than the status quo. While Lindsey Graham has been a cheerleader for Obama’s destructive economic policies, I will stand up to Obama and stand up for the beliefs – and pocketbooks – of the business owners and consumers of South Carolina.
    ...
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    http://www.ravenelforsenate.com/obam...-killing-jobs/
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    Ravenel Statement on Sen. Rand Paul’s Visit to S.C.

    Ravenel Statement on Sen. Rand Paul’s Visit to S.C.
    August 26, 2014

    I was encouraged to hear that U.S. Senator Rand Paul took an aggressive position in support of individual liberty during his trip to South Carolina this week. His support for the Bill of Rights – including our Fourth Amendment freedoms – is exactly the sort of perspective we need in the U.S. Senate.

    Unfortunately, while Rand Paul was fighting for these liberties on the Senate floor during his heroic filibuster last spring – Lindsey Graham sided with President Obama in attacking him.

    What is it about freedom that makes Lindsey Graham so afraid?

    We need U.S. Senators who respect individual liberty – not because the Constitution says so, or because it’s the right thing to do politically – but because there is a God-given law, or a natural law if you will, which holds that to be self-evident truth.

    No matter who we are, what we look like or what we believe, that fundamental liberty is our shared American birthright.

    I believe in that natural law – and will fight to uphold it in the Senate. Lindsey Graham believes government has the right to violate it – and your other constitutional liberties – whenever it wants.
    ...
    More:
    http://www.ravenelforsenate.com/rave...-visit-to-s-c/
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  15. #42
    18minute interview of Thomas Ravenel discussing his run as an independent against Graham. He says "He [Graham] is addicted to power...Now I know that may be a loaded word for me to use. But he is ADDICTED to power. I was never addicted to anything. I used an illegal drug but I wasn't addicted"

    August 22nd interview:
    http://www.wqsc1340.com/index.php/fe...-d-audio-vault
    Last edited by RSLudlum; 08-27-2014 at 10:47 PM.
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  16. #43
    http://www.ravenelforsenate.com/lind...are-hypocrisy/

    Lindsey Graham has spent hundreds of thousands of special interest dollars this election year trying to convince South Carolinians that he opposes Obamacare. Go to his website, and right off the bat you’ll read how he’s a “conservative leader” and a “strong opponent of Obamacare.”

    Is that true, though? And if it is true – why is Graham having to spend all that special interest money convincing people it’s true?

    Maybe it’s because Graham’s opposition to Obamacare – like his “Republican” label – is “in name only.” The truth is he’s actually an Obamacare supporter – and I can prove it.

    Last September Graham bragged about his support for a House resolution that would have defunded Obamacare – but when it came time to actually stand up for this resolution (and remove Obamcare funding from the budget) he folded like a cheap suit.

    While real conservatives – including Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and South Carolina’s own Tim Scott – courageously stood against funding Obamacare, Lindsey Graham voted with the Democrats.

    Don’t take my word for it, though. Here’s the official roll call vote.

    Weeks later, Lindsey Graham once again sided against Paul, Cruz, Lee and Scott – voting in favor of a budget that funded Obamacare and raised the debt ceiling by hundreds of billions of dollars.

    Again, don’t take my word for it. Here’s the official roll call vote.

    It gets worse, though. Graham hasn’t just helped Barack Obama advance this socialist monstrosity – he was one of only five “Republicans” in the entire U.S. Senate voting to confirm both of Obama’s radical Supreme Court justices (including one who had a conflict yet voted to uphold Obamacare anyway).

    And yes, you can see those votes for yourself – here and here.

    Graham is no “conservative leader.” Nor is he a “strong opponent of Obamacare.” The truth is he’s an Obamacare enabler. And anyone – including Graham – who tells you different is lying.

    South Carolina deserves another Senator who will stand against Obamacare when it counts– not when it’s convenient.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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  17. #44
    What are his chances?
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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Barrex View Post
    What are his chances?
    Longshot. But he has name recognition and money...
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  19. #46
    Latest:

    Lindsey Graham Slammed On Obamacare Votes
    THOMAS RAVENEL TURNS UP THE HEAT ON “WASHINGTON LIBERAL”
    ...
    The first candidate out of the gate this year? Thomas Ravenel – the independent conservative who’s running as a petition candidate against incumbent “Republican” Sen. Lindsey Graham.

    In what we’re told is a preview of forthcoming internet, radio and television advertisements, the Lowcountry businessman and reality television star released a broadside against Graham on the issue of Obamacare. The email’s time stamp? A quarter to eight o’clock in the morning … making it one of the first missives to land in reporters’ inboxes as they returned to work.

    “Lindsey Graham has spent hundreds of thousands of special interest dollars this election year trying to convince South Carolinians that he opposes Obamacare,” Ravenel wrote. ”Is that true, though? And if it is true – why is Graham having to spend all that special interest money convincing people it’s true?”

    According to Ravenel – whose release is peppered with links to specific roll call votes – Graham’s opposition to Obamacare is “in name only” – “like his ‘Republican’ label.”

    “Last September Graham bragged about his support for a House resolution that would have defunded Obamacare – but when it came time to actually stand up for this resolution (and remove Obamcare funding from the budget) he folded like a cheap suit,” Ravenel wrote. “While real conservatives – including Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and South Carolina’s own Tim Scott – courageously stood against funding Obamacare, Lindsey Graham voted with the Democrats.”

    Say what you will about Ravenel, but … he’s right.

    Ravenel adds that in addition to advancing Obamacare in the budget, Graham “was one of only five ‘Republicans’ in the entire U.S. Senate voting to confirm both of Obama’s radical Supreme Court justices.”

    Both of those judges voted to uphold the constitutionality of Obamacare’s insidious individual mandate – including Elena Kagan, who received Graham’s support even though she had a clear conflict related to the legislation.
    ...
    More:
    http://www.fitsnews.com/2014/09/02/l...amacare-votes/
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  20. #47
    Today is the first day I've heard of the guy.
    Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder. ~GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter, Aug. 17, 1779

    Quit yer b*tching and whining and GET INVOLVED!!

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    Today is the first day I've heard of the guy.
    Yeah, me too.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Longshot. But he has name recognition and money...
    So did Richard Cash and Lee Bright, and we mark them in the 'Loser' column. This guy will soon join them.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    Today is the first day I've heard of the guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    Yeah, me too.
    Where have you been?

    Do you live in South Carolina?
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  25. #51
    Lindsey Graham More Vulnerable Than Ever According To Latest Poll
    By Thomas Ravenel - September 8, 2014

    The percentage of likely voters supporting incumbent “Republican” Lindsey Graham in this fall’s general election has slipped below 40 according to a new CBS/ New York Times/ YouGov survey.

    Only 37 percent of those polled support Graham – while another five percent say they “lean Republican” in the upcoming election. Combined, the support of both groups would only get Graham to 42 percent.

    Lindsey Graham spent $5 million of special interest money during his GOP primary campaign trying to fool South Carolinians into believing he is a conservative leader. It didn’t work.

    Voters haven’t yet learned the extent to which Graham has betrayed their best interests.

    None of his primary opponents were able to raise enough money to highlight his glaring vulnerabilities – including his support for tax hikes, amnesty for illegals, Obamacare funding and Barack Obama’s radical judges. Once I take the fight to him, Graham’s numbers are going to implode.

    I will be launching my first television ads of the 2014 election later this month – including some hard-hitting contrast spots and some lighter ads that make serious points in a more humorous way.

    All of the ads boil down to this: We’re going to give South Carolina voters a real choice – not the same old echo of failed Washington policies.

    http://thomasravenel.com/lindsey-gra...g-latest-poll/
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  26. #52
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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  27. #53
    I'm voting for him.
    Stop believing stupid things

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    Yeah, me too.
    me too?
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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Shared.
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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Tywysog Cymru View Post
    I'm voting for him.
    How's it looking there? Any other people going to vote for him?
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    How's it looking there? Any other people going to vote for him?
    I'm telling my friends about him, and there are a lot of Republicans here who don't like Graham. I' telling my pothead friends about him as well.
    Stop believing stupid things

  33. #58
    Does anybody know the election rules in South Carolina? Will there be a run-off for Senate if no one gets 50%+1?
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  34. #59
    A new campaign video:

    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  35. #60
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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