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    Cheney Pours Cold Water On Rand Paul 2016: ‘Isolationism Doesn’t Work’

    Cheney Pours Cold Water On Rand Paul 2016: ‘Isolationism Doesn’t Work’ [VIDEO]

    by Alex Pappas
    9:45 PM 06/23/2014

    McLEAN, Va. — In one sentence, Vice President Dick Cheney summed up how unenthusiastic he is about Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul’s apparent aspirations to the presidency.

    “I’ll leave it simply,” Cheney said in an interview with The Daily Caller on Monday at his home outside Washington. “Isolationism doesn’t work as a philosophy for defending the nation.”

    “Isolationism, I think, is a flawed concept,” Cheney continued. “My disagreement with Rand Paul isn’t personal. It’s on substance. I just think he’s wrong.”

    As Paul – the libertarian-leaning lawmaker who favors a more restrained foreign policy – mulls a White House bid as a Republican in 2016, Cheney — who is much more hawkish — is criticizing the Kentuckian’s views on America’s role in the world.

    Cheney suggested Paul’s foreign policy is dangerous “given today’s technology” and “the ability of 19 guys with nothing more deadly than airline tickets and box cutters” to “come over here and strike the homeland in the worst attack ever on the United States of America.”

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    Isolationism doesn't work, but non intervention does.

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    I think we should start using the word imperialist in comments on articles like this.

    They want to continue to tar Rand with the same isolationist crap, and neo-con just doesn't have the same sting as IMPERIALIST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    I think we should start using the word imperialist in comments on articles like this.

    They want to continue to tar Rand with the same isolationist crap, and neo-con just doesn't have the same sting as IMPERIALIST.
    Imperialist sounds pretty weak to me. I always use 'Warmonger'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lib3rtarian View Post
    Imperialist sounds pretty weak to me. I always use 'Warmonger'.
    I think imperialist is the perfect antonym for isolationist.
    *shrug*
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    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


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    My headline would read:

    Dick Cheney likes to play war games. With real people's lives!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    My headline would read:

    Dick Cheney likes to play war games. With real people's lives!
    I like that Cheney is gallantly showing off right in the crossfire. It should show the Iraqi flag on both sides.
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    It has been said that a republic cannot survive the transition to empire.

    I would also just like to mention that we had everything we needed to stop those nineteen guys with box cutters, but our bureaucracy had so many jealously competing departments that refused to work together that no one had the whole picture. In response to which we created yet another new bureau--the DHS. I would also like to point out that we had the assets to stop at least one or two of the aircraft, but that Dick Cheney personally ruled that the war games they were participating in at the time were more important than that.

    So, how does he figure that, given a competent administration that doesn't find compartmentalization more important than the big picture and finds war exercises more important than actual defense of this nation, we can't defend ourselves without jacking with half the world and pissing them off?
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    Wow, the comments below the article are actually really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    Wow, the comments below the article are actually really good.
    Yes, for the most part they are. There are even comments that keep the conversation real, instead of team red against team blue.
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    neither do wars for profit you old hag

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    No one cares what you think you lying stupid $#@! bag
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    I think we should start using the word imperialist in comments on articles like this.

    They want to continue to tar Rand with the same isolationist crap, and neo-con just doesn't have the same sting as IMPERIALIST.
    Imperialist interventionist.

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    What is weird is that Cheney is trying to peddle the idea that in 2001 America was pursuing an Isolationist foreign policy and that said policy enabled 9/11.

    America was pursuing Cheney's foreign policy at the time. Its like everyone forgets Cheney was at the helm when the attacks happened. Ergo Whatever his plan was was *really* wrong for America.
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