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    Ted Cruz: Attack ISIS in Iraq and Syria to protect Israel

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    I am SOOOO glad he's taking a different stance than Rand on this!

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    It is not our job to defend Israel, any more than it is our job to defend Iran.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-...gious-freedom/

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    Ha ha, his handler$ finally told him what to say, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by THX 1138 View Post
    It is not our job to defend Israel, any more than it is our job to defend Iran.
    Iran is an Islamic republic, Israel is a Jewish state. It is our duty before God to protect His Chosen People. The US was founded on Judea-Christian values and we are forever bound to defend the Jewish people. We failed at that in WWII, we must never repeat that mistake. Never again, I say.

    Israel is our most vital ally in the world, they are the only free democracy in the Middle East and are a beacon of liberty in a sea of tyranny. If Israel falls, the entire world will be overrun by Islamic radicals. Do you want to live under Sharia law? I sure don't!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    Iran is an Islamic republic, Israel is a Jewish state. It is our duty before God to protect His Chosen People. The US was founded on Judea-Christian values and we are forever bound to defend the Jewish people. We failed at that in WWII, we must never repeat that mistake. Never again, I say.

    Israel is our most vital ally in the world, they are the only free democracy in the Middle East and are a beacon of liberty in a sea of tyranny. If Israel falls, the entire world will be overrun by Islamic radicals. Do you want to live under Sharia law? I sure don't!
    We should have no allies. The modern nation of Israel has little to nothing in common with the Israel of the Bible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    Iran is an Islamic republic, Israel is a Jewish state. It is our duty before God to protect His Chosen People. The US was founded on Judea-Christian values and we are forever bound to defend the Jewish people. We failed at that in WWII, we must never repeat that mistake. Never again, I say.

    Israel is our most vital ally in the world, they are the only free democracy in the Middle East and are a beacon of liberty in a sea of tyranny. If Israel falls, the entire world will be overrun by Islamic radicals. Do you want to live under Sharia law? I sure don't!
    Please tell me that you are joking with this neocon bull$#@!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    Iran is an Islamic republic, Israel is a Jewish state. It is our duty before God to protect His Chosen People. The US was founded on Judea-Christian values and we are forever bound to defend the Jewish people. We failed at that in WWII, we must never repeat that mistake. Never again, I say.

    Israel is our most vital ally in the world, they are the only free democracy in the Middle East and are a beacon of liberty in a sea of tyranny. If Israel falls, the entire world will be overrun by Islamic radicals. Do you want to live under Sharia law? I sure don't!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Please tell me that you are joking with this neocon bull$#@!.
    This is Eduardo.... Does it matter?

    Nobody takes him seriously anymore, Gunny did recently and I had to call him on it. It is what it is, he's mostly a harmless ol' chap.
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    Always good to know who's our "leaders" really serve. I think Cruz might be dealing up for a presidential bid. Gotta pander to that rapture freak base.
    ...but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardo89 View Post
    Iran is an Islamic republic, Israel is a Jewish state. It is our duty before God to protect His Chosen People. The US was founded on Judea-Christian values and we are forever bound to defend the Jewish people. We failed at that in WWII, we must never repeat that mistake. Never again, I say.

    Israel is our most vital ally in the world, they are the only free democracy in the Middle East and are a beacon of liberty in a sea of tyranny. If Israel falls, the entire world will be overrun by Islamic radicals. Do you want to live under Sharia law? I sure don't!

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    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post

    Don't know what got you banned, but come back soon!
    I hope it's permanent this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    I hope it's permanent this time.
    Aww, have a heart!

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    Okay. I'm no fan of Ted Cruz, but he in no way said in that clip what the thread title claims. He stated that our priorities should be to 1) safeguard Americans still on the ground. (About 2000) 2) Look at the possibility of "degrading the lethality" of a group who's stated aim is to "set up a caliphate" from which to "attack Jordan, Israel and the United States and 3) we shouldn't partner with Iran.

    Well..not sure what he means by "degrading the lethality" of ISIS. That could mean an attack on ISIS in Iraq and Syria. It could also mean recognizing that, for our purposes, the civil war in Syria is over and Assad won and we will no longer give any aid to any rebel groups for fear of further (inadvertently?) helping ISIS. As for doing this "to help Israel", if ISIS is intent on attacking the U.S., does the fact that they also (supposedly) want to attack Israel mean that their hatred of the U.S. should be ignored?

    Again, not a Ted Cruz fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Okay. I'm no fan of Ted Cruz, but he in no way said in that clip what the thread title claims.
    You're right. I made the thread to counter handle compromise post of the same video with a bs title that made Cruz sound like a non-interventionist. A mod changed his blatant misinfo thread title but mine stayed the same. You had to be there I guess....
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    As for doing this "to help Israel", if ISIS is intent on attacking the U.S., does the fact that they also (supposedly) want to attack Israel mean that their hatred of the U.S. should be ignored?

    Again, not a Ted Cruz fan.
    Lots of countries hate the U.S. We seem to ignore it just fine. Should we just go ahead and bomb everyone who says they hate us then?



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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    You're right. I made the thread to counter handle compromise post of the same video with a bs title that made Cruz sound like a non-interventionist. A mod changed his blatant misinfo thread title but mine stayed the same. You had to be there I guess....
    Fair enough. The interview was not non-interventionist.

    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    Lots of countries hate the U.S. We seem to ignore it just fine. Should we just go ahead and bomb everyone who says they hate us then?
    I didn't say bomb anyone. I merely pointed out that there is a difference between saying attack someone who has threatened the U.S. and Israel and saying attack someone to protect Israel. That said, the first thing we need to do to counter the ISIS threat is to quit funding the Syrian opposition.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Ralph Ted Cruz, when are you going to speak up for these Palestinian children?

    Caught on camera: Palestinian children harrasing Israeli soldiers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax-Jk2iJL0k
    Ummm....okay. Had to stop watching that 3 minutes in. I was getting to pissed at the Palestinians for the way they were using their children. Good God! At 2:30 in the little boy is pushed by some teenage girl into the Israeli soldiers. Sorry, but that's not the way to win sympathy for your cause.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COpatriot View Post
    Always good to know who's our "leaders" really serve. I think Cruz might be dealing up for a presidential bid. Gotta pander to that rapture freak base.
    Cruz did a short interview that aired on MTP. He was framed against a backdrop of a Reagan painting. Reagan's face was literally right next Cruz'. It was so obvious I laughed. No question he runs in 2016.
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    So was this objective achieved?




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