Are we paying to bring all these people from south of the border ?

[Origanalist]

ACORN For Illegal Aliens – Meet The Southwest Key Programs;



Are you curious who has been facilitating the transport of illegal alien children throughout the country? Look no more… meet La Raza connected Southwest Key Programs. This organization is the pipeline for the children into US refugee camps and homes across the nation. They provide immigrant youth shelters. It is a well-oiled machine that was set up to educate and reintegrate youth into American society. They also provide training for jobs. And baby, they are hiring.

Southwest Key Programs is funded by government and state programs. Here is an overview of what they do:

Southwest Key Programs is a national nonprofit organization providing transformative education, innovative safe shelters and alternatives to incarceration for over 200,000 youth and their families annually, while creating opportunities for their families to become self-sufficient. The inspiring youth and parents we work with are seeking the American dream: equality, education, and a higher quality of life. At Southwest Key, we simply open the doors to opportunity so they can achieve these dreams.

Southwest Key Programs ranks 5th among the Top Hispanic Nonprofits in America, employing a creative and diverse staff of over 2,200 employees. Because of Southwest Key’s work, thousands of youth have been diverted from prisons, jails, and institutions, enabling them to stay at home with their families and out of trouble. Southwest Key has reunified thousands of immigrant children with their families and provided these unaccompanied minors with 24-hour care and education. Southwest Key is one of only three nonprofits in Austin to be accredited by the Council on Accreditation, the nation’s leading human service accrediting body.

From the start, a cornerstone of all of our programs has been culturally-relevant education. Since 1999 we have refined our model by operating leading alternative schools throughout Texas, preventing hundreds of youth from dropping out of school by providing them with individualized education in a therapeutic setting. In 2009, East Austin College Prep opened at Southwest Key’s El Centro de Familia campus.



Over $8 million went into building their facility for this. This business was founded in 1987 and was made-to-order for Obama’s manufactured chaos on the border. Fast facts on Southwest Key Programs:


Founded: 1987
Legal Status: Nonprofit, charitable 501(c)(3) Social Service, Education and Community Development Organization
Staff: Over 2,200 nationwide
Programs: Southwest Key operates 68 juvenile justice and family programs, safe shelters for immigrant children, schools, and community building initiatives
Number Served: Over 200,000 kids and their families annually
Headquarters: Austin, Texas
Locations: Texas, California, New York, Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin
FY 20013-14 Budget: $150 million
Funding: Grants and contracts by U.S. federal, state, and local government, foundations, and corporations; special events; private contributions
Social Enterprises: Southwest Key Enterprises, Southwest Key Cafe del Sol, Southwest Key Maintenance, Southwest Key Green Energy & Construction, Southwest Key Workforce Development, The Blooming Florist, Southwest Key Youth, Family, & Transportation LLC


Their specialty is reunifying illegal minors with their families. They are the underground railroad for the American invasion from the South. They are nationalistic in their connections and leadership. Heavily connected to the La Raza Roundtable, don’t be fooled by the charitable facade. This is a radical breeding ground. They are militant, Latino community organizers.

continued at....http://noisyroom.net/blog/2014/07/06...-key-programs/

[Feeding the Abscess]

I've not advocated for border patrol or for immigration police. They've proved they're worthless. I've advocated for the state militias and for the border patrol who are down there to do the job they were hired for....otherwise fire them! I've never advocated for more government. I've advocated for the dissolution of DHS, but obviously you've selectively chosen snippets from my posts to attack. Beyond that, it's my $#@!ing business when it's happening mostly in my state and paid for with my tax dollars. Of course 12 billion dollars a year may mean nothing to you so feel free to have your state send them an engraved invitation and see how you like it. When your city becomes inundated with cartel crime, see how you like that too. I'm not getting into anymore debates with anarchos...y'all can all kiss my ass. You aren't here and you can only come from a standpoint of ignorance. You don't get to tell me how I should feel about it. Capiche? My viewpoint is the same as Ron Paul's...how many times do I have to repeat it?

I was born and raised in southern California. In many grades in school there were many more native Spanish speakers than there were native English speakers. Most of my classes had at least a few kids who didn't speak any English at all. My city had a major meth problem until I was 12 years old, and from the ages of 4-9 I heard gunshots several times a week. There were needles and crack and meth pipes in the gutter and occasionally the street that I noticed while riding my big wheel, later my bike, and my skateboard. Or playing touch football in the street. My pregnant neighbor and her husband were jumped by a gang of around 15 people. They were beaten so badly that they died from their injuries. I watched their family wailing as they carried their bloody, beaten, soon to be corpses up the stairs and into their apartment. I was 5 years old. I watched SWAT teams raid houses in my neighborhood on a regular basis until we moved to a nicer neighborhood when I was 9. The raids were broadcast on the local public access channel. Most of them were meth labs and gang houses.

Please, tell me more about how stupid and ignorant I am.

[Carlybee]

I was born and raised in southern California. In many grades in school there were many more native Spanish speakers than there were native English speakers. Most of my classes had at least a few kids who didn't speak any English at all. My city had a major meth problem until I was 12 years old, and from the ages of 4-9 I heard gunshots several times a week. There were needles and crack and meth pipes in the gutter and occasionally the street that I noticed while riding my big wheel, later my bike, and my skateboard. Or playing touch football in the street. My pregnant neighbor and her husband were jumped by a gang of around 15 people. They were beaten so badly that they died from their injuries. I watched their family wailing as they carried their bloody, beaten, soon to be corpses up the stairs and into their apartment. I was 5 years old. I watched SWAT teams raid houses in my neighborhood on a regular basis until we moved to a nicer neighborhood when I was 9. The raids were broadcast on the local public access channel. Most of them were meth labs and gang houses.

Please, tell me more about how stupid and ignorant I am.

Then you should know that by not trying to stem the tide at the source, it will only empower authorities to create more SWAT teams and further militarization of local and state police. I would rather have them at the border than in my neighborhood.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Then you should know that by not trying to stem the tide at the source, it will only empower authorities to create more SWAT teams and further militarization of local and state police. I would rather have them at the border than in my neighborhood.

You mean the war on drugs? Because that is the true source of the crime and the ensuing police state you are complaining about.

[Carlybee]

You mean the war on drugs? Because that is the true source of the crime and the ensuing police state you are complaining about.

What is your definition of ending the war on drugs? Plus it's not just the drug trade...it's the fact that these people know they can come here and get freebies.

[Ender]

Then you should know that by not trying to stem the tide at the source, it will only empower authorities to create more SWAT teams and further militarization of local and state police. I would rather have them at the border than in my neighborhood.

The SOURCE is the WoD.

This is a major money making business for the alphabets; the drug cartels get to join in a little of the profit. IF you TRULY want the gang wars, crime, etc to go away, then the answer is to get rid of the WoD.

This is the ONLY answer; anything else will simply spell more inprisionment for the average American- which...... is also part of the plan.

[Carlybee]

The SOURCE is the WoD.

This is a major money making business for the alphabets; the drug cartels get to join in a little of the profit. IF you TRULY want the gang wars, crime, etc to go away, then the answer is to get rid of the WoD.

This is the ONLY answer; anything else will simply spell more inprisionment for the average American- which...... is also part of the plan.

And what does ending the war on drugs involve and how soon might that happen ? And how does that end those who come here for jobs and entitlements?

[Ender]

And what does ending the war on drugs involve and how soon might that happen ? And how does that end those who come here for jobs and entitlements?

First, it ends the CRIME that you have been talking about this whole thread.

Second, the people coming will be coming strictly to better themselves and not for cartels.

Third, we NEED people working jobs, just ask the farmers.

Fourth, we also get rid of entitlements and bring back a free market.

Not easy, you say? Well, it's a whole lot better than asking for more government- that's also entitlements, in my HPOV, besides a bigger bite out of personal freedoms.

[Carlybee]

First, it ends the CRIME that you have been talking about this whole thread.

Second, the people coming will be coming strictly to better themselves and not for cartels.

Third, we NEED people working jobs, just ask the farmers.

Fourth, we also get rid of entitlements and bring back a free market.

Not easy, you say? Well, it's a whole lot better than asking for more government- that's also entitlements, in my HPOV, besides a bigger bite out of personal freedoms.

No, I asked how the war on drugs gets ended. I know the whys. What is the how and the when? Given that at least one major drug cartel is entrenched in the country as far away as NY, and have now branched off into non drug related crime such as bank robbery and identity theft, as well as being entrenched inside prisons....how does ending the WoD end that crime as it is no longer dependent on the drug trade to exist?

And when might the WoD end? 5 yrs, 20 yrs ?

If we have 12 million illegals at a growth rate of 8% a year times say 10 years, at what point do we think we have enough farm workers and grass mowers to offset the billions they cost per year?

[HOLLYWOOD]

Between Marxist government, racist orgs, and the idiot socialists... a recipe of despotism.

ACORN For Illegal Aliens – Meet The Southwest Key Programs;

continued at....http://noisyroom.net/blog/2014/07/06...-key-programs/

[Ender]

No, I asked how the war on drugs gets ended. I know the whys. What is the how and the when? Given that at least one major drug cartel is entrenched in the country as far away as NY, and have now branched off into non drug related crime such as bank robbery and identity theft, as well as being entrenched inside prisons....how does ending the WoD end that crime as it is no longer dependent on the drug trade to exist?

And when might the WoD end? 5 yrs, 20 yrs ?

If we have 12 million illegals at a growth rate of 8% a year times say 10 years, at what point do we think we have enough farm workers and grass mowers to offset the billions they cost per year?

Why don't we stop the continuous wars? The military/industrial complex? They cost a whole lot more than immigrants.

[Carlybee]

Why don't we stop the continuous wars? The military/industrial complex? They cost a whole lot more than immigrants.

Way to sidestep Ender. You and NIU and KC keep trying to nail me to the wall on my stance and now when I ask for clarification on your stance I get ****crickets*****.


Y'all three need to go write on the chalkboard 100 times "I will not espouse ideology that I am unable to illustrate how it works with relation to a specific scenario in a step by step sequence."

[Ender]

Way to sidestep Ender. You and NIU and KC keep trying to nail me to the wall on my stance and now when I ask for clarification on your stance I get ****crickets*****.


Y'all three need to go write on the chalkboard 100 times "I will not espouse ideology that I am unable to illustrate how it works with relation to a specific scenario in a step by step sequence."

Well, that's a crock.

We have been stating over and over and over, ad nasuem, what the FRICKIN' REAL PROBLEM is. But you don't like the answer.

If you want to hate the illegals and whine and grovel to government to help you- go for it. But GOVERNMENT is the REAL PROBLEM. You don't want to hear that- you just want to hate them blood-sucking illegals who are robbing you of health, wealth and happiness and ask for more government.

Asking for more poison to get rid of more poison is not only not smart- it's deadly.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

No, I asked how the war on drugs gets ended. I know the whys. What is the how and the when? Given that at least one major drug cartel is entrenched in the country as far away as NY, and have now branched off into non drug related crime such as bank robbery and identity theft, as well as being entrenched inside prisons....how does ending the WoD end that crime as it is no longer dependent on the drug trade to exist?

And when might the WoD end? 5 yrs, 20 yrs ?

If we have 12 million illegals at a growth rate of 8% a year times say 10 years, at what point do we think we have enough farm workers and grass mowers to offset the billions they cost per year?

How about continuing on the path that Colorado & Washington have already adopted in regards to marijuana? At least it's a start, legally speaking. From there, adopt decriminalization methods for more lethal drugs such as heroin and cocaine that have been implemented in the northern European countries.

If you are legitimately concerned about eradicating the criminal element that derives from Mexico and South America, telling border agents that they need to just do their job and "enforce the laws" is not enough. All you're doing is creating that much more of a profit incentive for these cartels to operate and flow into the border states, thus creating that much more violent crime.

And in regards to the "illegal" population growth rate, the market will determine when it's enough when they're no longer being employed as farmers, landscapers, etc. Until then, start encouraging unemployed American citizens to take these jobs if you're so concerned about welfare. Besides, it's the same "this job is beneath me" citizens that deserve the most blame for draining the well dry, so to speak, not the immigrants who largely don't qualify for social security but yet fund it.

[Carlybee]

Well, that's a crock.

We have been stating over and over and over, ad nasuem, what the FRICKIN' REAL PROBLEM is. But you don't like the answer.

If you want to hate the illegals and whine and grovel to government to help you- go for it. But GOVERNMENT is the REAL PROBLEM. You don't want to hear that- you just want to hate them blood-sucking illegals who are robbing you of health, wealth and happiness and ask for more government.

Asking for more poison to get rid of more poison is not only not smart- it's deadly.

I know what the problem is. Tell me when and how it gets fixed. Sometime in this millennium? And I never said I hated anybody so stop getting emotional. You have no solution. You have an ideal and are unable to articulate how it works real world.

[Carlybee]

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[Carlybee]

How about continuing on the path that Colorado & Washington have already adopted in regards to marijuana? At least it's a start, legally speaking. From there, adopt decriminalization methods for more lethal drugs such as heroin and cocaine that have been implemented in the northern European countries.

If you are legitimately concerned about eradicating the criminal element that derives from Mexico and South America, telling border agents that they need to just do their job and "enforce the laws" is not enough. All you're doing is creating that much more of a profit incentive for these cartels to operate and flow into the border states, thus creating that much more violent crime.

And in regards to the "illegal" population growth rate, the market will determine when it's enough when they're no longer being employed as farmers, landscapers, etc. Until then, start encouraging unemployed American citizens to take these jobs if you're so concerned about welfare. Besides, it's the same "this job is beneath me" citizens that deserve the most blame for draining the well dry, so to speak, not the immigrants who largely don't qualify for social security but yet fund it.

Okay, say every state legalizes weed...which I support btw. What about heroin, coke, meth? You do understand that comes over the border too right? Do you seriously think every state in the union is going to legalize that? You do know private prisons are big business now right? And your last statement sounds like a progressive straw man. Make welfare harder to qualify for and they will have no choice but to go pick lemons. Yet.?.none of these things ever get fixed. So they sound good on paper but meanwhile pretty soon there may not be any jobs for anybody cause it's not just migrant farm workers coming over...it's painters, plumbers, carpenters, etc.

So if a legal citizen who has lived here all his life has spent years learning to make cabinets loses his job because an illegal will do it cheaper, it's his fault for not wanting to take a significant pay cut ? Rofl...I'm guessing you don't even have a job.

Let me know when you figure out when and how all this good $#@! is going to take place.

Tick..tock. Why even have a country? Or a state? Let's just let the oligarchs take completely over and determine how teeny your slice gets to be. Let's just do away with opportunity and any kind of trying to get ahead. Keep on diluting the piss pot. Heck let's just become communists. We don't need no stinkin money. Let's share.

For the record, I'm not trying to win anything here. You think what you wish, as shall I. The answer to the OP, is yes..we are paying for it.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Okay, say every state legalizes weed...which I support btw. What about heroin, coke, meth? You do understand that comes over the border too right? Do you seriously think every state in the union is going to legalize that? You do know private prisons are big business now right?

I already mentioned those drugs when I stated that states could implement similar decriminalization methods that European countries have already accomplished.

So if a legal citizen who has lived here all his life has spent years learning to make cabinets loses his job because an illegal will do it cheaper, it's his fault for not wanting to take a significant pay cut ? Rofl...I'm guessing you don't even have a job.

You do realize that's how a free market works, right? And if he loses his job to some guy who is uneducated and doesn't speak English like many anti-immigration advocates will have you believe, he probably wasn't good enough to begin with. Perhaps he wouldn't be undercut if employers had to worry about the government cracking down on their hiring practices. If you lift the restrictions, you create transparency that allows for fair competition of labor and services.

And enough with the anecdotal arguments and criticisms. If I was Paris Hilton and my wealth came solely from my parents, it still wouldn't change the fact that what you are advocating for is blatant anti-free market protectionism that denies consenting parties the right to do business with each other, regardless of which side of the line they crossed.

But since you brought it up, I actually have a job as a special ed teacher. During college I supported myself by doing landscaping, and wouldn't you know it, I was the only white laborer I came across (there were at least a dozen companies/crews working the same neighborhoods I was employed in). After I graduated and couldn't find a full-time job, I continued on with the landscaping in addition to working retail part-time and commuting an hour and a half back and fourth two nights a week to teach U.S. and World History to a group of at-risk students who didn't give a $#@!.

And yet, you don't see me using MY using my background in the form of an emotional argument.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Happy Trails to you... until we meet again...



PS: I vote to bring in the 100 million impoverished children from India... then after we settle them, next stop, 200 million impoverished children in China, big government clown politicians love to hide behind children.

It's all about Demoralization and Subversion of America's society... Well Done

[NIU Students for Liberty]

PS: I vote to bring in the 100 million impoverished children from India... then after we settle them, next stop, 200 million impoverished children in China, big government clown politicians love to hide behind children.

It's all about Demoralization and Subversion of America's society... Well Done

And tell me how these hundreds of millions of impoverished children are going to obtain the resources necessary to cross the U.S. borders, regardless of the legalities?

[RonPaulMall]

And tell me how these hundreds of millions of impoverished children are going to obtain the resources necessary to cross the U.S. borders, regardless of the legalities?

What if somebody gave it to them? It would certainly be in India and China's economic benefit to unload a few hundred million of their poorest citizens. Build some barges and ship them over. And under the logic of the open borders crowd, we'd have no choice to but to accept them.

In an anarcho-capitalist world, yes, there are no immigration restrictions in law, but all property is also privately held so in practice, immigration would be far more restrictive than under any immigration regulation the government could come up with. If you as a farmer want to import a few hundred third world workers, it is your responsibility to house them or find someone willing to house them (and remember that in an anarcho-capitalist society exclusionary covenants would be commonplace).

Both sides of the immigration debate are on poor footing when it comes to purist libertarian theory. The restrictionists want government to secure the borders, while the open borders side want free flowing immigration within the context of government denying private property rights, and outlawing freedom of association and contract. That is why I take a practical view of the immigration debate. And in practical terms, we know what mass immigration does. We have seen the results in places like Southern California, Southwest Texas, and South Florida. Those places are no longer areas where middle class Americans can raise a family. They have been lost to America just as surely as if a foreign nation had invaded and annexed the territory.

[Carson]

Another thing to watch for on the question of who's paying.

If you attend any rallies to support the rule of law in regards to illegal immigration you will find you and your friends paying your own way. Making your own signs. Whatever.

On the other side you may come across rallies where those for anarchy show up in chartered buses. Their signs may be printed by print shops. (That reminds me of all of the professionally made signs that materialized when the government acted so surprised by the shut down.)

Anyway keep your eyes open to just what is going down.


P.S. I forgot their matching tee shirts.

[Dianne]

You mean the war on drugs? Because that is the true source of the crime and the ensuing police state you are complaining about.

You're exactly right .. The few border patrol agents who have spoken say, Homeland Security is opening the gates for the Coyotes to cross; while the border patrol agents are busy nursing the infants and children back to health at other areas. This is all about drugs, and if you sell drugs and are not well positioned (connections), you will go to a Wells Fargo Bank prison. If you are running drugs and well positioned such as Obama and Holder; then bring it on ... Let the taxpayers fund your drug operations .. Obama and Holder no idiots; they are kingpin drug dealers, but they did test the stupidity of American voters and somehow Daddy Mac Obama won, so it is what it is .. Just hold your breath and pray we make it another two years.

[DamianTV]

So I was in WalMarx the other day waiting in line to be serviced by a Chinese cashier. The woman in line in front of me was also chinese, and they both started speaking to each other in chinese. I had to interrupt both of them and told them "Dammit! This is America! You live here, and work here! Speak SPANISH!" Of course, I said it in English so I dont think they understood what I was saying...

/sarcasm - piss poor attempt at humor

[NIU Students for Liberty]

What if somebody gave it to them? It would certainly be in India and China's economic benefit to unload a few hundred million of their poorest citizens. Build some barges and ship them over. And under the logic of the open borders crowd, we'd have no choice to but to accept them.

In an anarcho-capitalist world, yes, there are no immigration restrictions in law, but all property is also privately held so in practice, immigration would be far more restrictive than under any immigration regulation the government could come up with. If you as a farmer want to import a few hundred third world workers, it is your responsibility to house them or find someone willing to house them (and remember that in an anarcho-capitalist society exclusionary covenants would be commonplace).

I'm fairly certain that everyone here who is advocating for open borders is an anarchist that is not also arguing for government/tax-funded welfare, so why would we be forced to accept them in this scenario?

As you pointed out, it's the responsibility of the consenting parties (immigrants and employers) to determine how resources will be distributed amongst themselves. No one outside of this interaction would be compelled to provide assistance.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Another thing to watch for on the question of who's paying.

If you attend any rallies to support the rule of law in regards to illegal immigration you will find you and your friends paying your own way. Making your own signs. Whatever.

On the other side you may come across rallies where those for anarchy show up in chartered buses. Their signs may be printed by print shops. (That reminds me of all of the professionally made signs that materialized when the government acted so surprised by the shut down.)

Anyway keep your eyes open to just what is going down.

So anarchists at these rallies are also moles employed by the NWO in order to usher in a labor force that will obey the commands of their overlords?

[Carson]

So anarchists at these rallies are also moles employed by the NWO in order to usher in a labor force that will obey the commands of their overlords?

Your probably right!


In fact years ago when I was looking in to where the money was coming from to buy off the politicians and subvert the immigration laws of the world, I came across what may be the root of many of our problems. Fiat Money.

No matter how much real money people can put together to build their countries the way they want there are those that can print up what ever it takes to get their way.

Maybe this will help make the danger of fiat money clear.

Imagine you and me are setting across from each other. We create enough money to represent all of the world's wealth. Each one of us has one SUPER Dollar in front of him.

You own half of everything and so do I.

I'm the government though. I get bribed into creating a Central Bank.

You're not doing what I want you to be doing so I print up myself eight more SUPER Dollars to manipulate you with.

All of a sudden your SUPER Dollar only represents one tenth of the wealth of the world!

That isn't the only thing though. You need to get busy and get to work because YOU'VE BEEN STIFFED with the bill for the money I PRINTED UP to get YOU TO DO what I WANTED.

That to me represents what has been happening to the economy, and us, and why so many of our occupations just can't keep up with the fake money presses.

We are going to have to regain control of our government before we can regain control of our currency and regain control of our country.


Good to see you coming around!

[Origanalist]

And tell me how these hundreds of millions of impoverished children are going to obtain the resources necessary to cross the U.S. borders, regardless of the legalities?

How are these impoverished "children" getting here from South America? Is it such a leap to see the same thing happening from outside the continent?

[Origanalist]

I'm fairly certain that everyone here who is advocating for open borders is an anarchist that is not also arguing for government/tax-funded welfare, so why would we be forced to accept them in this scenario?

The term "useful idiots" comes to mind.

[kcchiefs6465]

The term "useful idiots" comes to mind.

One could say the same of nationalists, protectionists, fascists, republicans etc.

Did you read of that border agent slice that woman's tire, by the way? Bad apple spoiling the bunch, I'm sure.