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  1. #631
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    At this rate you'll be under water.....

    Actually it's lookin' good.
    We are the Dutch, we build dykes if we have to. And no it's not going to take that long.. The end is in sight. More or less.
    "I am a bird"



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  3. #632
    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    We are the Dutch, we build dykes if we have to. And no it's not going to take that long.. The end is in sight. More or less.
    I'm just giving you $#@!....



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  5. #633
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I'm just giving you $#@!....
    I'm not into global warming either.
    "I am a bird"

  6. #634
    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post

    The 11th course. Reducing from 36 to 18 bricks in a course. Thought it would be a major headache but they fit nicely.

    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post

    The chimney, tested it out with some hay and it draws nicely. Left a space on both sides so I can fit a bar in there to suspend stuff that has to be smoked. I can probably sell my smoker when this is done.
    "I am a bird"

  7. #635
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    At this rate you'll be under water.....

    Actually it's lookin' good.
    It must be costing a small fortune to keep renewing the permits to build that thing.
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  8. #636
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    It must be costing a small fortune to keep renewing the permits to build that thing.
    I gave them to him.No charge.

  9. #637
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    It must be costing a small fortune to keep renewing the permits to build that thing.
    Permits ?





    So since I took out the floor, I just stuck some pieces of brick on the center-point so I can continue building this thing form-free. Essentially all the bricks are cut so that when I put a straightedge on the side or top of the brick it hits the center-point.
    Last edited by luctor-et-emergo; 08-13-2016 at 03:23 AM.
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  10. #638
    ^^^Finally! A pizza!!!!
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  11. #639
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    ^^^Finally! A pizza!!!!
    Not the best either. Not too bad but definitely not exiting. It used to be that going out for dinner would mean better tasting food but the last couple of years I rather eat at home . But takeaway pizza is convenient sometimes.
    "I am a bird"

  12. #640
    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Not the best either. Not too bad but definitely not exiting. It used to be that going out for dinner would mean better tasting food but the last couple of years I rather eat at home . But takeaway pizza is convenient sometimes.
    I don't care, I'm just glad to see a pizza in the damn oven.
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  14. #641
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I don't care, I'm just glad to see a pizza in the damn oven.
    It's just the box... The pizza is long gone. I needed something that's a bit softer (than the brick underfloor) in case I drop a brick while sticking it on there. Amazingly though, this mortar-glue stuff is pretty damn strong. After 10 seconds or so it's hard to move these large bricks. I think even at 90 degrees they will stick although I'm quite sure they will fall off once it's been dried out since there's hardly any tensile strength.
    "I am a bird"

  15. #642
    Ordered the last materials I need to finish the oven/floor and insulation... When it comes in I should be able to finish the dome within a reasonable amount of time. 7 courses to go I think. I suspect it will be 18-18-18-18-18-9-1 bricks or something pretty similar. Got the first 18 of those ready to be stuck on. Although about half the time I have to grind a bit away to make a nice fit.
    "I am a bird"

  16. #643



    I really like how this looks.. Quite proud of it. I'm not complaining about it taking too long, no regrets.






    One layer up since the last pics. Starting to look like a dome isn't it ?
    Last edited by luctor-et-emergo; 08-16-2016 at 12:50 PM.
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  17. #644
    I want to know the trick to cutting firebrick with red-handled scissors?

  18. #645
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I want to know the trick to cutting firebrick with red-handled scissors?
    Paper templates !
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  19. #646
    Well, one more then. Snapped this pic so might as well upload it... Here you can see the center-point I'm using as a guide. Oh, and I'm now using a mirror so I can look at the inside in a more comfortable way.

    "I am a bird"

  20. #647
    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Oh, and I'm now using a mirror so I can look at the inside in a more comfortable way.


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  21. #648
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  23. #649
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post


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  24. #650
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Burger looks dry.
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  25. #651
    Well, looks like I have to wait to the end of next week or the beginning of the week after that for my materials.

    In the meantime I'll be spending some of my spare time into the surrounding structure. I've ordered some lumber to make the wood frames for the rear and I've made a plan for the masonry in front. Since I put a couple hours of thinking into my early drawings everything seems to fit nicely and I won't have to do crazy stuff to make it work, especially the brick pattern, for some reason the dimensions of my oven are perfect for it. The roof is going to be significantly more complicated because it's an octagon and I have no real ability to brace the thing halfway or at the bottom. Luckily there will not be too much weight on top. I think I figured it out. It would have been a lot easier but I have a height constraint since there are beams above the oven for the veranda roof. The way I've got it drawn up right now with plenty space for insulation around the oven, the top of the roof will be about 3" from one of the beams..

    The roof is mostly for decoration but it will have to handle all the water that comes from the veranda roof at the chimney since the veranda roof has gutter style lexan on top, in hindsight it would have been a lot nicer to just use wood and ceramic tiles for the veranda with two large windows in there for some light, a bit more expensive but it would have been a gazillion times more convenient to fit a chimney through there without leakage. I'm going to have to get a plumber over to bend/solder some custom zinc gutters around the chimney hole. There's like 30" between the beams, they are at a 7degree, and the chimney is supposed to be 24", so there's not a lot of space to fit some zinc gutters. The space in between the beams I'm going to fill with some wood so you don't see the gutters and it's a bit neater...

    Long story, which I'm sure nobody will read, but sometimes writing something down helps making things clear. This topic is a bit like a notepad for me, I use it to generate ideas. Who knows, maybe someone can learn from the mistakes I'm making.
    "I am a bird"

  26. #652
    Pop for copper flashing!

    You've put all this time and money into it don't cut corners now.

  27. #653
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Pop for copper flashing!

    You've put all this time and money into it don't cut corners now.
    I really like the look of copper flashing.. It doesn't fit the look of the house though.
    Since it's a small roof, I was thinking about small roofing tiles, the flat ones, used a lot in France. Dark grey with a lot of contrast.

    I'm not going to put something ugly on the roof.

    Instead of copper, zinc could be an option. As far as cost goes. I think everything together, including some of the tools I bought (watercooled 14" stone saw) it's around 5k (copper roof could change that, not common around here so it's expensive). The firebricks being the single most expensive part.
    "I am a bird"

  28. #654
    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    I really like the look of copper flashing.. It doesn't fit the look of the house though.
    Since it's a small roof, I was thinking about small roofing tiles, the flat ones, used a lot in France. Dark grey with a lot of contrast.

    I'm not going to put something ugly on the roof.

    Instead of copper, zinc could be an option. As far as cost goes. I think everything together, including some of the tools I bought (watercooled 14" stone saw) it's around 5k (copper roof could change that, not common around here so it's expensive). The firebricks being the single most expensive part.
    Zinc is what threw the flags for me...stainless or even lead will out live zinc, copper turns a cool shade of green, quickly if you acid wash it, brown if you heat and oil it..

  29. #655
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Zinc is what threw the flags for me...stainless or even lead will out live zinc, copper turns a cool shade of green, quickly if you acid wash it, brown if you heat and oil it..
    Which is why I prefer using ceramic tiles. They will outlast me.

    Like these;


    Available used/weathered and new in many different colors/sizes, small enough so it doesn't look ridiculous on such a small roof.
    Last edited by luctor-et-emergo; 08-23-2016 at 05:14 PM.
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  30. #656
    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Which is why I prefer using ceramic tiles. They will outlast me.
    Flashing with tile isn't something I've ever heard of though....

    The zinc flashing used here isn't like what was available 50+ years ago, it rots in 10-15 years now..Whereas copper, lead and stainless all last unless they're perforated...



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  32. #657
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Flashing with tile isn't something I've ever heard of though....

    The zinc flashing used here isn't like what was available 50+ years ago, it rots in 10-15 years now..Whereas copper, lead and stainless all last unless they're perforated...
    Burnt copper for any ridges-n-valleys, even rafter ends if you don't close in the soffit and fascia....

    I like those tiles!

  33. #658
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Flashing with tile isn't something I've ever heard of though....

    The zinc flashing used here isn't like what was available 50+ years ago, it rots in 10-15 years now..Whereas copper, lead and stainless all last unless they're perforated...
    The Zinc here is good I guess, I don't know. The stuff we already have here in zinc is at least 20 years old and it looks like it's new. Haven't had a problem with it. Like I said, copper is not a usual material around here, not many people working with it, making it even more expensive.
    "I am a bird"

  34. #659
    Good news, the remaining materials for the dome will be delivered this week or Monday next week. Lets get this thing done and make some pizza's.
    "I am a bird"

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