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  1. #211
    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...ising-hackles/
    Seattle’s brash king of pot raking in cash and raising hackles at Uncle Ike’s
    ...
    Uncle Ike’s is now selling $99 ounces, about half of what the cheapest ounces cost at Seattle’s leading shops. That appears to be a first in legal pot, said Greg James, publisher of Marijuana Venture magazine. Eisenberg is going to change the industry with his approach, James predicts, forcing some farmers — “who think their pot is grown with unicorn poop,” Eisenberg said — into greater efficiencies and lower prices.

    Another Eisenberg strategy: Because pot is still illegal under federal law, businesses can’t take basic tax deductions such as the cost of labor. To compensate for that lost value, Eisenberg realized his employees needed to move fast.

    Unlike some boutique-style shops, Uncle Ike’s feels more like a Starbucks, with customers queuing up to be served by a handful of budtenders moving at a brisk pace. Some nights the line stretches out the door and around the corner, under the “Hey Stoner” sign.
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  3. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by Mani View Post
    Oh my gawwwwddd!! WEED DESTROYS YOUR MEMORY!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

    http://www.ibtimes.com/marijuana-leg...-study-2289869
    So What Excuse Remains?
    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231090

    The association between short-term memory declines — potentially permanent ones — and heavy pot use is very real, according to this study, and shouldn't be discounted. On the other hand, it's also quite surprising that you can smoke weed every single day for five years, and not have it impact your problem-solving abilities or your ability to focus at all.
    Got that?

    The study in question found that there was a correlation between heavy pot smoking (as in daily smoking from age 20 to 45) and being able to remember 2.5 fewer words (out of 15) on a short-term basis.

    But.... correlation is not causation, and associative studies cannot determine causation. The correlation is potentially concerning at some level but the fact that even under extremely heavy use they did not find problems with the ability to focus or cognition pretty-much blows a hole the size of a truck in the thesis that smoking pot "makes you stupid" and therefore as a matter of public policy there is an argument for banning it.

    So here's the question for you -- why would you support or for that matter have anything to do with any politician or police officer who is willing to arrest and throw in jail someone who is engaged in consensual adult use or distribution of a substance that even when used daily and heavily for five years doesn't cause cognitive or attention (focus) problems?

    Any defensible position on jailing people in this regard has gone right out the window, never mind that I have a suspicion alcohol wouldn't fare so well under this analytical criteria.

    The people who ought to be in prison are the cops and politicians who have destroyed the lives of countless individuals and families via permanent criminal branding for their decision to consume something that has been on this planet for as long as we have (if not longer) and, as it turns out, is a perfectly-viable recreational means of enjoyment with few if any inherent long term negative effects when consumed in moderation.
    What excuse remains, he asks.

    The usual FYTW, or like Killary said:

    "We Can't Legalize Drugs Because 'There Is Just Too Much Money in It'"
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
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  4. #213
    Good stuff.
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  5. #214
    front page, top story, large font in my paper today
    Pot products recalled for pesticides in Colorado, but not in Washington
    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...in-washington/
    Dr. Jeff Duchin, at Public Health — Seattle & King County, noted earlier this year there are “no cases of human illness identified due to pesticides in marijuana.” But Duchin said he’d advise “buyer beware” as we don’t have enough information to conclude there aren’t health risks.

    Myclobutanil, a fungicide in agriculture, illustrates the uncertainty facing consumers. The EPA has set a tolerance of 1 part per million of the chemical on grapes.

    But when heated to a certain point, myclobutanil turns to cyanide gas. Regulators don’t know what concentration levels are dangerous in such circumstances. The federal government forbids its use on tobacco. Washington’s Liquor and Cannabis Board (LCB) considers it an unapproved pesticide.
    ...
    WSU’s Felsot said he doubted that myclobutanil would be heated long enough by a pot smoker — or that there would be enough of it left on a plant — to create a dangerous amount of cyanide gas.
    oh my god! obviously my state needs more bureaucrats.
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  6. #215
    I wasn't ever worried about this, they were just being crybaby's, but here is an update.

    http://news.yahoo.com/u-justices-rej...134623764.html



    Supreme Court rejects suit against Colorado over marijuana law


    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Supreme Court on Monday threw out a lawsuit filed by the states of Nebraska and Oklahoma against their neighbor Colorado over a law approved as a ballot initiative by Colorado voters in 2012 that allows the recreational use of marijuana.

    The court declined to hear the case filed by Nebraska and Oklahoma, which said that marijuana is being smuggled across their borders and noted that federal law still prohibits the drug.

    Two conservative justices, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, said they would have heard the case.

    Nebraska and Oklahoma contended that drugs such as marijuana threaten the health and safety of children and argued that Colorado had created "a dangerous gap" in the federal drug control system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Another from Drudge;

    Nebraska, Oklahoma in border war with Colorado over marijuana


    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...207-story.html

    On the front door of the 20,000-square-foot marijuana dispensary here is a laminated sign warning every customer: "It is illegal to sell or transport marijuana to another state."

    "And you can guarantee people read it," said Rick Hooper, general manager of the Spot 420 in this barren part of southern Colorado. "We make it very, very clear that this is the law here."

    Whether people obey is an entirely different question, and some neighboring states don't think a warning sign is enough.

    A border war has broken out between Colorado, where recreational pot is legal, and its neighbors, Nebraska and Oklahoma, where it is not.

    In December, the attorneys general of Nebraska and Oklahoma filed a lawsuit to stop what they say is a steady flow of marijuana across the Colorado state line. Kansas is considering joining as well.

    The suit, filed directly to the U.S. Supreme Court, seeks to strike down Colorado's law legalizing recreational marijuana. It argues that Colorado's statute conflicts with federal drug laws, which consider marijuana illegal, even in small amounts.

    In December, the attorneys general of Nebraska and Oklahoma filed a lawsuit to stop what they say is a steady flow of marijuana across the Colorado state line. Kansas is considering joining as well.

    The suit, filed directly to the U.S. Supreme Court, seeks to strike down Colorado's law legalizing recreational marijuana. It argues that Colorado's statute conflicts with federal drug laws, which consider marijuana illegal, even in small amounts.

    "Left unchallenged, I am confident Colorado's law will cause long-term harm to Nebraska families," the state's new attorney general, Republican Doug Peterson, wrote in an open letter last week. "It is incumbent on Nebraska to take action." [Have I mentioned today how DA's are the lowest form of life?]

    Coloradans, however, are bristling that its staunchly conservative neighbors are trying to impose their will on the "open-minded voters" of this centrist state.

    "They can't force their convictions onto Coloradans," said Hooper, amid piles of oddly contorted bongs and cannabis packed in glass jars on the shelves.

    Colorado's marijuana law was approved by voters in 2012. It allows the sale and possession of up to an ounce of marijuana for recreational use for anyone 21 and over with a valid driver's license.

    Shortly after the new law took effect, the U.S. Justice Department outlined its enforcement priorities, saying it would not interfere with Colorado's legal pot operations but would instead focus on, among other things, preventing marijuana from crossing state lines.

    Oklahoma's Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs said it had seen more "high-potency" marijuana arriving from its neighbor. Mark Woodward, an agency spokesman, said there had been about a dozen cases in the last year.

    "Whether it's people driving to Colorado and bringing it back, or mailing it through the Postal Service, it's getting here," he said. "This is marijuana with very high concentrations of THC, very strong stuff."

    Some police in Colorado agree it's not difficult to get marijuana across state lines. "People can buy legal marijuana, take it out of its packaging, put it in a plastic bag, and there's no telling if it's legal or where it came from," said Marc Vasquez, the Erie, Colo., police chief.

    Colorado recently launched a $5.7-million ad campaign to make it clear to everyone — especially out-of-state visitors — what the rules are. Taking pot out of the state is a felony and a federal violation.

    But the success of the campaign is debatable, given the ease of driving across state lines.

    "It would be naive not to think some people are not looking to take it back home with them," said Katy Atkinson, a Denver-based political consultant.

    In Denver last fall, the police and the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration raided several growing facilities that officials said were producing marijuana for out-of-state sellers.

    But the majority of dispensaries are not partaking in illegal activity, said Hooper, a baby boomer pot enthusiast, while sitting at a desk cluttered with papers and cannabis literature one recent afternoon.

    "We follow the rules, very strictly," he said of his dispensary. "Why jeopardize this movement?"

    Nebraska and Oklahoma's lawsuit argues that Colorado cannot pass statutes that conflict with federal drug laws. It is a violation of the U.S. Constitution, which maintains that federal law is the "supreme law of the land," according to the suit.

    In addition, the suit argues that Oklahoma and Nebraska will suffer in the long term because of increased costs from arrests, the seizure of contraband, the transfer of prisoners and other problems associated with marijuana crossing state lines.

    Legal experts have mostly scoffed at the suit.

    "This is a very weak claim. Their real beef is with the federal government for not enforcing the federal drug laws," said Georgetown law professor Randy Barnett, who has argued a marijuana case before the U.S. Supreme Court. "It is not up to the states to sue each other when the federal government is not enforcing the law."

    The Supreme Court already has found that states have no duty to enforce federal law.

    Oklahoma Atty. Gen. Scott Pruitt, a Republican, and Nebraska's Peterson declined to comment for this article.

    Critics of the lawsuit largely see it as political grandstanding by the attorneys general to their conservative constituencies.

    But even among conservatives, there are complaints.

    Last month, a number of GOP legislators, led by Oklahoma state Rep. Mike Ritze, sent a three-page letter to Pruitt asking him to drop the suit because of its assault on the right of a state to pass its own laws.

    We "do not feel that attempting to undermine the sovereignty of a neighboring state using the federal courts, even if inadvertently, is a wise use of Oklahoma's limited state resources," the letter said.

    Peterson, in his open letter, stressed that he had no intention of giving up the suit.

    "Nebraska has only one real choice, to uphold the law that exists for the protection of the public and well-being of Nebraska's families," he wrote. "We must not subject our youth to such a costly social experiment." [It's for the children after all]
    FJB

  7. #216
    Because everybody knows that the crazy drug fueled stoners smuggle 'addictive' candy into Fla. just to give it away to unsuspecting kids.......


    From Drudge;

    Tampa Bay area police agencies see spike in drug-laced candy

    http://wfla.com/2016/03/31/tampa-bay...g-laced-candy/

    Local police agencies are finding more criminals carrying drug-laced candy. There were two big busts in Sarasota and Charlotte counties just this week. And officials say loose marijuana restrictions across the country may be partly to blame.

    Police officials showed 8 On Your Side some examples. There were normal Sour Patch Kids, gummy candies and even cookies. There was nothing out of the ordinary looking about them, but they were all laced with marijuana.

    “A kid would never know that this is a drug,” North Port police spokesman Josh Taylor said.

    North Port police busted three men this week who were carrying 300 packets of pot-laced gummies and cookies. And recently, the Charlotte County Sheriff’s Office confiscated a large amount of drug-laced gummy worms. In most cases, these candies come from out of state.

    “It seems like every election another state becomes a little more lax on marijuana. And that’s fine in those states, but it’s important for people to know that it’s not the case here in Florida,” Taylor said.

    Police say these candies may have been purchased elsewhere legitimately and brought to Florida to be sold. Officers worry the candy could get into the hands of children. Officials say consuming marijuana can have worse effects than smoking it.

    Marijuana edibles take a few hours to be absorbed into the bloodstream. Since it takes longer, the user may end up eating more in an effort to get high.

    Officials tell 8 On Your Side in many cases these are normal store brand candies sprayed with hash oil. Since they look and smell like normal candy, it’s very hard for police to enforce the rules.

    “Our job isn’t to make the law. Our job is to uphold the law,” Taylor said.

    Parents like Christa Dagley are concerned. “It looks like what he would eat and what any kid would want,” Dagley said. “(I’m) horrified and scared for my child. I’m scared to have him grow up.”

    She is going to be very mindful of the candy her son Dylan eats. “I’m very scared to send my child to school,” Dagley added.

    In order to keep your children safe, tell them to stay away from candy in strange or unfamiliar wrapping. In addition, monitor your children and make sure you know what they’re getting into.



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  9. #217
    Parents like Christa Dagley are concerned. “It looks like what he would eat and what any kid would want,” Dagley said. “(I’m) horrified and scared for my child. I’m scared to have him grow up.”

    She is going to be very mindful of the candy her son Dylan eats. “I’m very scared to send my child to school,” Dagley added.

    In order to keep your children safe, tell them to stay away from candy in strange or unfamiliar wrapping. In addition, monitor your children and make sure you know what they’re getting into.
    Dylan will be fine if he doesn't buy expensive candy from drug dealers.
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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  10. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by surf View Post
    front page, top story, large font in my paper today

    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...in-washington/

    oh my god! obviously my state needs more bureaucrats.
    Like hell it does.
    "The Patriarch"

  11. #219
    Officials say consuming marijuana can have worse effects than smoking it.

    Marijuana edibles take a few hours to be absorbed into the bloodstream. Since it takes longer, the user may end up eating more in an effort to get high.
    Worse effects? Such as? The only problem I see is wasting too much.
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  12. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Because everybody knows that the crazy drug fueled stoners smuggle 'addictive' candy into Fla. just to give it away to unsuspecting kids.......


    From Drudge;

    Tampa Bay area police agencies see spike in drug-laced candy

    http://wfla.com/2016/03/31/tampa-bay...g-laced-candy/

    Local police agencies are finding more criminals carrying drug-laced candy. There were two big busts in Sarasota and Charlotte counties just this week. And officials say loose marijuana restrictions across the country may be partly to blame.

    Police officials showed 8 On Your Side some examples. There were normal Sour Patch Kids, gummy candies and even cookies. There was nothing out of the ordinary looking about them, but they were all laced with marijuana.

    “A kid would never know that this is a drug,” North Port police spokesman Josh Taylor said.

    North Port police busted three men this week who were carrying 300 packets of pot-laced gummies and cookies. And recently, the Charlotte County Sheriff’s Office confiscated a large amount of drug-laced gummy worms. In most cases, these candies come from out of state.

    “It seems like every election another state becomes a little more lax on marijuana. And that’s fine in those states, but it’s important for people to know that it’s not the case here in Florida,” Taylor said.

    Police say these candies may have been purchased elsewhere legitimately and brought to Florida to be sold. Officers worry the candy could get into the hands of children. Officials say consuming marijuana can have worse effects than smoking it.

    Marijuana edibles take a few hours to be absorbed into the bloodstream. Since it takes longer, the user may end up eating more in an effort to get high.

    Officials tell 8 On Your Side in many cases these are normal store brand candies sprayed with hash oil. Since they look and smell like normal candy, it’s very hard for police to enforce the rules.

    “Our job isn’t to make the law. Our job is to uphold the law,” Taylor said.

    Parents like Christa Dagley are concerned. “It looks like what he would eat and what any kid would want,” Dagley said. “(I’m) horrified and scared for my child. I’m scared to have him grow up.”

    She is going to be very mindful of the candy her son Dylan eats. “I’m very scared to send my child to school,” Dagley added.

    In order to keep your children safe, tell them to stay away from candy in strange or unfamiliar wrapping. In addition, monitor your children and make sure you know what they’re getting into.
    This $#@! reads like satire. Fricking news and fear propaganda would be comical if they didn't throw your ass in a cell to ease their fear.
    "The Patriarch"

  13. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Because everybody knows that the crazy drug fueled stoners smuggle 'addictive' candy into Fla. just to give it away to unsuspecting kids.......
    Damn it boy, haven't you watched "Reefer Madness"? The hell?



    From Drudge;

    Tampa Bay area police agencies see spike in drug-laced candy


    Probably see dead-people, too.


    http://wfla.com/2016/03/31/tampa-bay...g-laced-candy/

    Local police agencies are finding more criminals carrying drug-laced candy. There were two big busts in Sarasota and Charlotte counties just this week. And officials say loose marijuana restrictions across the country may be partly to blame.

    Damn CO and WA... they're destroying 'Murka!



    Police officials showed 8 On Your Side some examples. There were normal Sour Patch Kids, gummy candies and even cookies. There was nothing out of the ordinary looking about them, but they were all laced with marijuana.
    Hold on RIGHT there, and what the flippity copulate?

    OK, gummis are clear. How can they be "laced with marijuana" and yet have "nothing out of the ordinary looking about them"? How much copulating marijuana can you fit into a single stinking gummi bear, anyhow? How it is gotten into the gummi bear, or do these impossibly dullardly content that there is a drug-laced gummi bear operation out there? Given that the least detectable amount of "marijuana" will get you in deep and very hot water, as well as the question of how much can you fit into a single bite of gummi goodness, who in hell is going to risk 20 years in a state penitentiary for so small a payoff? Seriously now... who is going to walk around with 142 pounds of gummi bears in two backpacks, when it's only enough to get, like, three people a mild buzz?

    So sorry, but the bull$#@! that gushes from these dumbass kops in such torrents is really gone beyond the pale... long since, in fact. The only thing more disturbing than this is the hook, line, and sinker fashion in which the vast majority of imbecilic Americans accept what they say without catching these inconsistencies that stand out like small hydrogen bomb detonations in the mind.

    “A kid would never know that this is a drug,” North Port police spokesman Josh Taylor said.
    And one wonders how they came to know... or is it just bald-faced lies in order to scare the milquetoast 'Murkins into buying more PBA kneepads?

    North Port police busted three men this week who were carrying 300 packets of pot-laced gummies and cookies. And recently, the Charlotte County Sheriff’s Office confiscated a large amount of drug-laced gummy worms. In most cases, these candies come from out of state.
    See previous comment about CO and WA.

    “It seems like every election another state becomes a little more lax on marijuana. And that’s fine in those states, but it’s important for people to know that it’s not the case here in Florida,” Taylor said.
    Holy shyte - could he be a little more obviously authoritarian? What will he do when FL decriminalizes, just shoot those in possession while screaming "stop resisting" from 10 yards away? Oh wait, make that 1 yard - I keep forgetting they can't hit the broad side of a very large barn beyond 1.5 yards, and that's really challenging their marksmanship.

    This attitude seems rife in FL, which is why it is on my list of thirteen black states.

    Officers worry the candy could get into the hands of children.
    Oh my! The children!

    Officials say consuming marijuana can have worse effects than smoking it.
    Yes yes... they also say the moon is made of green cheese. Shall we believe that as well? "OFFICIALS say..." therefore, comply.

    Firetruck you.

    This crap makes my head hurt, yet again.
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  14. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    The resemblance to Michelle Obama is uncanny. Are they brothers?

    Mrs. Obama must fantasize about Michelle and his brother in a devil's tango. Too hot for me, thankyouverymuch...
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  15. #223
    Just in case you were wondering about his opinion Drudge posted this marvel;


    The more cannabis you smoke, the more likely you are to be a loser, finds international study

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nal-study.html

    Persistent users likely to be lower paid and have relationship difficulties
    Research found abusers ended up in a lower social class than their parents
    Also more prone to be in less skilled, prestigious jobs and to run into debt
    Study by Californian university followed children from birth up to age of 38

    International research has revealed that the more cannabis you smoke, the more likely you are to be lower paid and have relationship difficulties.
    The study followed children from birth up to the age of 38 and found people who smoked cannabis four or more days a week over many years ended up in a lower social class than their parents.
    It also found that regular and persistent users ended up with lower-paying, less skilled and less prestigious jobs than those who were not regular cannabis smokers.
    Financial, work-related and relationship difficulties were further experienced by those taking the drug, which worsened as the number of years of regular cannabis use progressed.

    The study, conducted by a team of researchers led by Magdalena Cerda at the University of California and Avshalom Caspi and Terrie Moffitt at Duke University, appeared in the journal Clinical Psychological Science.
    'Our research does not support arguments for or against cannabis legalization,' said Cerda. 'But it does show that cannabis was not safe for the long-term users tracked in our study.
    'Our study found that regular cannabis users experienced downward social mobility and more financial problems such as troubles with debt and cash flow than those who did not report such persistent use.
    'Regular long-term users also had more antisocial behaviors at work, such as stealing money or lying to get a job, and experienced more relationship problems, such as intimate partner violence and controlling abuse.'

    Researchers claimed the study was important as it addresses an array of 'potentially confounding factors' not included in past studies assessing cannabis' long-term effects on users.
    Economic and social problems persisted in long-term, regular users of pot even after the authors accounted for other potential differences between regular cannabis users and other participants.
    These factors included socioeconomic problems in childhood, lower IQ, antisocial behavior and depression in adolescence, higher levels of impulsivity, lower motivation to achieve, criminal conviction of cannabis users, and abuse of alcohol and hard drugs.
    'These findings did not arise because cannabis users were prosecuted and had a criminal record,' said Caspi, a psychologist at Duke University and King's College London.

    'Even among cannabis users who were never convicted for a cannabis offense, we found that persistent and regular cannabis use was linked to economic and social problems.'
    While both heavy alcohol and cannabis use were similarly associated with declines, the authors found that those dependent on cannabis experienced more financial difficulties.
    'Cannabis may be safer than alcohol for your health, but not for your finances,' said Moffitt.
    For the study, 947 participants who had completed at least three of the five adult cannabis assessments from ages 18 through 38.
    Eighteen percent, or 173 participants, were considered marijuana dependent in at least one wave of the study, and 15 per cent fell into the regular cannabis use categories.

    There's some scary pictures of a plant and a girl smoking something rolled in rice paper, a video too........

  16. #224
    Loser...
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.



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  18. #225
    I should let this idiocy pass, but I just don't want to.

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post


    Persistent users likely to be lower paid and have relationship difficulties
    My friend, lets call him Don, works at Microsoft. Don isn't his real name because there is no copulating way I would risk something like this coming back on him as he is highly placed at the company. Don's a literal genius. He makes the sort of living I used to make, only he is 100x smarter than I could ever hope to be. He likes to smoke a joint and have beer. Don has been very successful.

    Don's been married ca. 30 years now. His wife, also an old friend of mine, is an engineer, brilliant woman, and overall cool person who will also fire up a spliff. They have two children, the younger of which is also an engineer, gorgeous, sweet as honey, and by all accounts happy and successful. The elder is problematic, but that derives from other issues, which I need not go into here. I do not believe either of the children partake, but I may be mistaken on that point.


    Research found abusers ended up in a lower social class than their parents
    Precise opposite. Don's father was a machinist and a copulating vicious bastard. No idea about mom.

    Also more prone to be in less skilled, prestigious jobs and to run into debt
    He can call a meeting with Gates. His skills are vast. I personally watched him build a screen handler library in his basement in NJ in about 4 hours. What he produced in that time period many companies were unable to produce after years of work by competent developers. That is no feces. He gave it away to a Fortune 50 company who used it for many years after his departure. The library was bug-free, as written. How many people can spew out many thousands of "lines" of reentrant driver code in a mere 4 hours in C and not have a single bug show? Any of my fellow developers here with more than three days' experience will know the answer.

    I sat next to him and watched him do it. He may even have been stoned at the time, I do not recall. It was a Friday night, so chances were good that he was. I was almost certainly marinated in beer, myself.

    Study by Californian university followed children from birth up to age of 38
    And of course it must have been the herb. I'd like to see the structure of this "study", including the controls. I'd give even odds I could eviscerate the credibility of the research team by uncovering fundamental flaws in their methods and design. But who knows...

    Anyhow, the whole article has the air of stoogery about it. I could be wrong, but on such points I rarely fail.
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  19. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Hold on RIGHT there, and what the flippity copulate?

    OK, gummis are clear. How can they be "laced with marijuana" and yet have "nothing out of the ordinary looking about them"? How much copulating marijuana can you fit into a single stinking gummi bear, anyhow? How it is gotten into the gummi bear, or do these impossibly dullardly content that there is a drug-laced gummi bear operation out there? Given that the least detectable amount of "marijuana" will get you in deep and very hot water, as well as the question of how much can you fit into a single bite of gummi goodness, who in hell is going to risk 20 years in a state penitentiary for so small a payoff? Seriously now... who is going to walk around with 142 pounds of gummi bears in two backpacks, when it's only enough to get, like, three people a mild buzz?
    They make gummi candies laced with hashish.. if I eat a half a gummy worm before bed, I wake up high.

    That said, keep it away from kids unless it is medicinal.. but if they do take it anyway, they won't die or suffer permanent damage.
    Last edited by dannno; 04-04-2016 at 12:30 AM.
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  20. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    They make gummi candies laced with hashish.. if I eat a half a gummy worm before bed, I wake up high.

    That said, keep it away from kids unless it is medicinal.. but if they do take it anyway, they won't die or suffer permanent damage.
    Assuming this is not a joke, then I guess I stand educated. If they are that potent, then I can see the profit incentive. And yeah, the kids won't die. But don't tell that to Themme. I'm quite sure Theye know very well, but this drug narrative has been such a deal. Few other control schemes have returned so much bang for the imposed buck, the only real competitors being the threat of nukyular holocaust and that of terr'ists.
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  21. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Assuming this is not a joke, then I guess I stand educated. If they are that potent, then I can see the profit incentive. And yeah, the kids won't die. But don't tell that to Themme. I'm quite sure Theye know very well, but this drug narrative has been such a deal. Few other control schemes have returned so much bang for the imposed buck, the only real competitors being the threat of nukyular holocaust and that of terr'ists.
    Hence "Boogity-boogity"........

  22. #229
    I needed to run in and get a refresher on propaganda so I can remember why I am not supposed to smoke weed.

  23. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I needed to run in and get a refresher on propaganda so I can remember why I am not supposed to smoke weed.
    You're welcome.

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  24. #231
    Drudge again;


    Cannabis: scientists call for action amid mental health concerns

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...ealth-concerns

    Warning reflects growing consensus that frequent use of the drug raises the risk of psychotic disorders in vulnerable people

    The risks of heavy cannabis for mental health are serious enough to warrant global public health campaigns, according to international drugs experts who said young people were particularly vulnerable.

    The warning from scientists in the UK, US, Europe and Australia reflects a growing consensus that frequent use of the drug can increase the risk of psychosis in vulnerable people, and comes as the UN prepares to convene a special session on the global drugs problem for the first time since 1998. The meeting in New York next week aims to unify countries in their efforts to tackle issues around illicit drug use.


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    While the vast majority of people who smoke cannabis will not develop psychotic disorders, those who do can have their lives ruined. Psychosis is defined by hallucinations, delusions and irrational behaviour, and while most patients recover from the episodes, some go on to develop schizophrenia. The risk is higher among patients who continue with heavy cannabis use.

    Public health warnings over cannabis have been extremely limited because the drug is illegal in most countries, and there are uncertainties over whether it really contributes to mental illness. But many researchers now believe the evidence for harm is strong enough to issue clear warnings.

    “It’s not sensible to wait for absolute proof that cannabis is a component cause of psychosis,” said Sir Robin Murray, professor of psychiatric research at King’s College London. “There’s already ample evidence to warrant public education around the risks of heavy use of cannabis, particularly the high-potency varieties. For many reasons, we should have public warnings.”

    The researchers are keen not to exaggerate the risks. In the language of the business, cannabis alone is neither necessary nor sufficient to cause psychosis. But the drug inflicts a clear burden on the vulnerable. Estimates suggest that deterring heavy use of cannabis could prevent 8-24% of psychosis cases handled by treatment centres, depending on the area. In London alone, where the most common form of cannabis is high-potency skunk, avoiding heavy use could avert many hundreds of cases of psychosis every year.


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    In the US, cannabis is becoming stronger and more popular. Over the past 20 years, the strength of cannabis seized by the Drug Enforcement Administration has increased from 4%-12% THC. Meanwhile, the number of users rose from 14.5 million to 22.2 million in the seven years to 2014.

    Coinciding with the upwards trend, young people’s perceptions of the risks of cannabis have fallen, a consequence perhaps of the public discussion over legalisation and fewer restrictions for medicinal uses, according to the US government’s National Institute on Drug Abuse (Nida).

    “It is important to educate the public about this now,” said Nora Volkow, director of Nida. “Kids who start using drugs in their teen years may never know their full potential. This is also true in relation to the risk for psychosis. The risk is significantly higher for people who begin using marijuana during adolescence. And unfortunately at this point, most people don’t know their genetic risk for psychosis or addiction.”

    In the UK, cannabis is the most popular illegal drug, and according to Public Health England data, more young people enter treatment centres for help with cannabis than any other drug, alcohol included. The number of under-18s in treatment for cannabis rose from 9,000 in 2006 to 13,400 in 2015. The drug now accounts for three-quarters of young people receiving help in specialist drugs centres. The most common age group is 15- to 16-year-olds.

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    The reasons for the upward trend are unclear. As hard drugs fall in popularity, clinical services may simply pull in more cannabis users. But the rise in young people in treatment may be linked to skunk, a potent form of cannabis that has taken over the market and edged out the traditional, weaker resins.

    Skunk and other strong forms of cannabis now dominate the illicit drugs markets in many countries. From 1999-2008, the cannabis market in England transformed from 15%-81% skunk. In 2008, skunk confiscated from the street contained on average 15% of the high-inducing substance THC (delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol), three times the level found in resin seized that year. The Home Office has not recorded cannabis potency since.

    “There is no doubt that high-potency cannabis, such as skunk, causes more problems than traditional cannabis, or hash,” Murray told the Guardian. “This is the case for dependence, but especially for psychosis.”

    Ian Hamilton, a mental health lecturer at the University of York, said more detailed monitoring of cannabis use is crucial to ensure that information given out is credible and useful. Most research on cannabis, particularly the major studies that have informed policy, are based on older low-potency cannabis resin, he points out. “In effect, we have a mass population experiment going on where people are exposed to higher potency forms of cannabis, but we don’t fully understand what the short- or long-term risks are,” he said.

    In Australia, a 2013 study found nearly half of the cannabis confiscated on the streets contained more than 15% THC. Prof Wayne Hall, director of the Centre for Youth Substance Abuse Research at the University of Queensland, said that while most people can use cannabis without putting themselves at risk of psychosis, there is still a need for public education.


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    “We want public health messages because, for those who develop the illness, it can be devastating. It can transform people’s lives for the worse,” he said. “People are not going to develop psychosis from having a couple of joints at a party. It’s getting involved in daily use that seems to be the riskiest pattern of behaviour: we’re talking about people who smoke every day and throughout the day.”

    The evidence that cannabis can cause psychosis is not 100% conclusive. It is still possible that people who are prone to psychosis are simply more likely to use the drug. The catch is that absolute proof of causality cannot be obtained. The harm caused by cigarettes was easy to confirm: paint tobacco tar on mice and watch the tumours form. You can give cannabis to animals and watch what happens, but you cannot recognise a psychotic mouse. Nor can scientists order thousands of teenagers to smoke pot every day and compare them to a control group that abstained 10 years later.

    “When you’re faced with a situation where you cannot determine causality, my personal opinion is why not take the safer route rather than the riskier one, and then figure out ways to minimise harm?” said Amir Englund, a cannabis researcher at King’s College London.

    In the 1960s, cannabis in the Netherlands had less than 3% THC, but today high potency strains average 20%. Jim van Os, professor of psychiatry at Maastricht University medical centre, said public health messages are now justified. He believes people should be deterred from using cannabis before the age of 18, warned off the stronger forms, and urged not to use cannabis alone or to cope with life’s problems.

    Public health campaigns can easily fail though. To prevent a single case of schizophrenia, several thousand heavy cannabis smokers would probably have to quit. That could change with better understanding of who is most at risk. “Once we really understand what it is about cannabis that increases some people’s risk, and in what context, we can maybe start to identify people more highly at risk, and targeted campaigns are likely to be much more effective,” said Suzi Gage, senior research associate at Bristol University.

    As with any campaign, credibility is everything. “There is an issue of getting a message through to those who are vulnerable without causing alarm, being overly sensationalist and thus being ignored,” said Dr Wendy Swift, of the National Drug and Alcohol Research Center at the University of New South Wales. “There is good evidence that cannabis use, particularly early onset and frequent use when young, can cause problems on a number of fronts into young adulthood. This to me is the group we need to get our messages through to the most, along with those who have a family history of mental illness or have mental health problems themselves.”

    A government spokesperson said its position on cannabis was clear. “We must prevent drug use in our communities and help people who are dependent to recover, while ensuring our drugs laws are enforced. There is clear scientific and medical evidence that cannabis is a harmful drug which can damage people’s mental and physical health, and harms communities.”

  25. #232
    I've got no words for that whole "skunk" scare. WTF?

    Substitute "strong" with "effective" and see how it reads.

    For crying out loud, kids, talk to your parents about cannabis today.

    My mom and I happened to have a cannabis discussion yesterday, she's a Fox watcher (I'm constantly working on that), and I had a lot of correcting to do -again.

    And this goes here, totally unrelated, I'm sure of it-

    King's signs agreement with Pfizer in field of gene therapy

    King’s College London has announced that it has recently entered into an exclusive license agreement with Pfizer Inc. for the development of a series of adeno-associated virus (AAV) gene therapy vectors.
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  27. #233
    I got my mom high for the first time in her life a few years ago. I thought it might help her with her back pain but she was too damn annoying. It was like partying with a middle schooler.O_o She kept talking gibberish and spilling the wine. She sticks to Franzia, pain killers and muscle relaxers.

    Quote Originally Posted by bunklocoempire View Post
    I've got no words for that whole "skunk" scare. WTF?

    Substitute "strong" with "effective" and see how it reads.

    For crying out loud, kids, talk to your parents about cannabis today.

    My mom and I happened to have a cannabis discussion yesterday, she's a Fox watcher (I'm constantly working on that), and I had a lot of correcting to do -again.

    And this goes here, totally unrelated, I'm sure of it-
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  28. #234
    I am a couple months away from completing a one year "study" .

    I will let you know results and findings around the first of July..

    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  29. #235
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    I am a couple months away from completing a one year "study" .

    I will let you know results and findings around the first of July..

    I bet you're at the top of the class.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  30. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I bet you're at the top of the class.
    It's a private study.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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    It's all about Freedom

  31. #237
    I'm almost done with a 15 year study.... the results so far are incomplete, I think I will have to continue the study for another 5 or 10 years at least.
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  32. #238
    'Colorado is Headed Down the Tubes'

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/04/18...ntcmp=trending

    The state of Colorado seems to be going to pot — literally.

    John Denver used to sing about a Colorado Rocky Mountain high, but he almost certainly never imagined that someday that theme would apply to America’s innocent school kids.

    In a Colorado State House committee meeting on Monday, patient advocates will be pushing for the use of medical marijuana, in the form of edible pot, in their state’s public schools. In the Centennial State, this decision is left to individual school districts — and no school district currently allows it.

    So advocates will be pushing hard to make Colorado join New Jersey — the Garden State — as the second state in the country to allow medical marijuana in schools.

    Colorado had recreational and medical marijuana sales of $996 million in 2015, according to The Cannabist. The state also collected more than $135 million in taxes and fees, and ironically, more than $35 million is earmarked for school construction projects.

    There are several obvious problems with medical marijuana on school grounds — for one, making sure that the patient is the only person who has access to the drug. Secondly, having a school nurse administer medical edible pot when that same school employee is responsible by law for reporting any usage of that same substance is nonsensical. Confusion and opaqueness reign in this debate.

    The fight against marijuana in schools is not without concern for any and all students dealing with medical issues, but about the safety and well-being of all students. "School boards do not lack compassion for students that benefit from medical marijuana," Jane Urschel, a member of the Colorado Association of School Boards, told the Associated Press. "How do you begin to deal with those difficulties in different venues?"

    The federal government, anxious to involve itself in progressive issues like LGBT rights in public schools, backs off when it comes to marijuana in or near schools, pushing it back on individual states.

    "Marijuana use, cultivation and possession remain illegal under federal law," states Pillsburylaw.com. "However, in response to several states’ legalization of medical and recreational marijuana, the DOJ has relaxed its policy on federal prosecution of marijuana crimes."

    "Poor old Colorado; if their schools allow edible marijuana on school grounds, they are simply out of their gourds," said Carla Lowe, the founder of CALM, Citizens Against Legalizing Marijuana.

    Lowe has been fighting legalized pot in her home state of California and the rest of the U.S. for 40 years. "'If we could just get it accepted as a medicine’ has long been the plea — but that has always been a red herring," said Lowe. "The potency of the drug has been increasing right alongside the movement to legalize it."

    Lowe is concerned with the uptick of THC in the product, as well as its long-term effects.

    "The problem is that cannabis is a complex drug," she told LifeZette. "There are over 400 chemicals in it. THC, the psychoactive chemical in marijuana, is fat-soluble, so it leaves the bloodstream very quickly. But it then circulates the body until it finds a fatty organ, where it begins to very slowly break down. The brain and the sex organs are the fattiest organs, so they are natural repositories for THC. It takes 25 years for the human brain to be fully developed. Kids are smoking pot, and it's affecting their developing brains."

    Lowe says the rise in potency is startling. When she began fighting legalizing pot in California years ago, the level of THC in the product was about one-half to one percent. Now, she says, the potency of street pot in California is 18 to 24 percent THC.

    LifeZette asked Lowe to weigh in on another pot issue some states are facing — the proximity of pot shops to public schools.

    More than two dozen schools in Denver are now closer than 1,000 feet to shops selling medical or recreational marijuana, as the Denver Post has reported.

    This has some city council members worried.

    "We are making this attractive to kids and young people," Gina Carbone, a founder of Smart Colorado, which advocates protections for kids against pot, told the Post. "The city should do all it can to keep this away from kids."

    Of Colorado’s proximity quagmire, Lowe said, "It was well-documented that there were more pot shops than Starbucks in California, and Colorado is heading the same way, it seems," she said. "This is just unconscionable. The problem with the pot shops is that anyone can go in and buy a bag of weed for any reason. Then they sell it to the kids; they cut it and sell it to the kids who are literally [a few] feet away from them."

    In the face of all logic, Denver Public Schools recently moved two northwestern city schools, the Contemporary Learning Academy and the Denver Justice High School, within close proximity to four marijuana shops.

    Justice High School is a charter school for troubled students.

    "We tried to find something that is both in the right location where the need is," said David Suppes, the district’s chief operating officer, "but also in a location that we think would be a good place for kids to learn."

    A Denver parent who requested anonymity told LifeZette, "Colorado is headed down the tubes, as far as I’m concerned. Our state and its schools seem more concerned with these new businesses — and the tax dollars they bring — feeling comfortable in our state than it does with our kids’ futures. And the mood is, ‘It’s not harmful; it’s just pot.’"

    Said Lowe of the country’s acceptance of pot, "We are looking at a diminished generation, a diminished future, and a diminished America."

    Her group will fight on, she said.

  33. #239
    AK-47 for breakfast. (with coffee)

    Late nite last nite.. Picked up a rolled truck and trailer.

    Minor Pain relief,, Motivational/Mood enhancement. Mental balance and focus.

    I'm ready to go to work. (still gots a few minutes till 8:00)
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    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  34. #240
    Protesters march on Seattle’s Uncle Ike’s pot shop
    Protesters, mostly representing African-American groups, marched on Uncle Ike’s pot shop in Seattle’s Central District Wednesday, saying the store is too close to a local church’s teen center.

    While the city’s top-selling pot retailer celebrated 4/20, the unofficial stoner holiday, about 100 protesters blocked the 23rd Avenue East and East Union Street intersection, cheering speeches and chanting “No justice, no weed” and “Uncle Ike’s has got to go.”
    ....
    there's a video to go along with the story. they are saying it shouldn't be allowed where it is, and it's racism that allows it to exist where it is.

    boogity boogity happy 420
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