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    Dick Cheney: Rand Paul is 'not familiar with the facts'

    Dick Cheney: Rand Paul is 'not familiar with the facts'

    CNN's Ashley Killough
    May 18th, 2014 02:09 PM ET

    (CNN) – In a response to comments by Sen. Rand Paul, former Vice President Dick Cheney said Sunday he had no ties to Halliburton after he became vice president and during the Iraq War.

    "I had no relationship at all with the company throughout the time that I was vice president. I didn't even talk to them," Cheney said on "Fox News Sunday."

    "We kept totally at arm's length relationship," he continued. "So he obviously is not familiar with the facts."

    Paul came under hot water with some Republicans after a 2009 video surfaced in which he made a speech suggesting that Cheney pushed for the Iraq War out of his own corporate interests with Halliburton, an oil field services company where he once served as CEO.

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    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ith-the-facts/



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    WALLACE: Finally, we're going to be electing a new president in 2016, Mr. Vice President -- and you've done this with me before -- I want to play a -- a lightning round, quick questions, quick answers on some of the potential candidates.

    Senator Rand Paul. Senator Paul said last month that he thought you might have a potential conflict of interest during the invasion of the -- of Iraq during 2003, because you had worked for Halliburton and the defense industry.

    How do you respond to that?

    D. CHENEY: Well, before I ever took the job as vice president, I totally severed all my ties with Halliburton, at considerable financial cost. I had no relationship at all with the company throughout the time I was vice president. I didn't even talk to them. We kept a totally arm's length relationship.

    So he obviously is not familiar with the facts.
    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-ne...zi-and-hillary

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    Rand never said he was with Haliburton when the decision was made to go into Iraq. There's answering a question, then there's whatever this was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    Rand never said he was with Haliburton when the decision was made to go into Iraq. There's answering a question, then there's whatever this was.

    Here is your answer....






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    He didn't sign any dividend checks from Halliburton, either.

    He had all that reinvested in yet more stock...
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    Dick Cheney: Rand Paul is 'not familiar with the facts'
    What a coincidence, neither was the Bush administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    What a coincidence, neither was the Bush administration.
    Coincidence? But it wasn't Paul who was 'not familiar with the facts' in this case either.

    Dearest $#@! Cheney: Owning stock in a company is, in fact, a 'relationship'. So, you just lied again.
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    "I had no relationship at all with the company throughout the time that I was vice president. I didn't even talk to them," Cheney said on "Fox News Sunday."



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    Anyone else wish he didnt survive heart surgery?

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    EZ investigation question:

    Did DC own H stock at that time? If not, maybe Snowden has all his Emails that detail all his arm length arms links around that time...

    If so, his pants are probably smoldering (or ablaze) in anticipation of any eternal fire and brimstone deals he may have already lined up for himself.



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    Haliburton is such a large company and there are maybe a handful in the world that can do what they do. With that said, they do thrive in reclamation projects such as seen in Iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Coincidence? But it wasn't Paul who was 'not familiar with the facts' in this case either.

    Dearest $#@! Cheney: Owning stock in a company is, in fact, a 'relationship'. So, you just lied again.
    I think it's crazy to perpetuate the theory that Dick Cheney pushed for war for merely monetary gain when individuals like him are far more forward thinking. People like Zbigniew Brzezinski and Cheney don't care about money at their level. Money generation aids greatly in swaying allegiances, but on a personal level, nefarious visionaries like this aren't driven by something as banal as money at their ages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I think it's crazy to perpetuate the theory that Dick Cheney pushed for war for merely monetary gain when individuals like him are far more forward thinking. People like Zbigniew Brzezinski and Cheney don't care about money at their level. Money generation aids greatly in swaying allegiances, but on a personal level, nefarious visionaries like this aren't driven by something as banal as money at their ages.
    Rand didn't push that theory, though. He merely said that Cheney's time at Haliburton may have influenced the way he looked at foreign policy, and used Cheney's previous statements/position on Iraq as a counterpoint to Cheney's position in Bush 43's administration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    Rand didn't push that theory, though. He merely said that Cheney's time at Haliburton may have influenced the way he looked at foreign policy, and used Cheney's previous statements/position on Iraq as a counterpoint to Cheney's position in Bush 43's administration.
    True. Rand didn't exactly say that but many people subscribe to this flawed theory.

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    I agree with Rand 100% on what he said about the revolving door. No more revolving door!! And term limits! Screw these career politicians all to hell!!
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    Cheney fears going to pwison.
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    Will Rand Paul start an investigation committee in order to arrest Cheney when elected POTUS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard101 View Post
    Will Rand Paul start an investigation committee in order to arrest Cheney when elected POTUS?
    Suppose he were. Would he answer that question?

    Suppose you were hunting deer. Would you attach a siren and disco lights to your tree stand?
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    Cheney is full of crap. He had Halliburton stock in his "blind trust" and he knew it.

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    Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader. (With Ron Paul as Obi Wan)

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    Nothing to see here guys, it was only a "coincidence" that Cheney who used to work for Haliburton becomes vice president then Haliburton gets this nice fat contract from the United States government. No collusion here at all. Crazy conspiracy theorists!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    He didn't sign any dividend checks from Halliburton, either.

    He had all that reinvested in yet more stock...

    The PINK ELEPHANT in the room that nobody is talking about is how much of Cheney's salary and other earnings while he worked for Haliburton were essentially in exchange for future services (war lobbying)?
    Last edited by anaconda; 05-19-2014 at 10:04 PM.



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